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~ U.S. Armored Infantry for my 1/35th scale E.T.O.~

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Posted by *INDY on Thursday, June 17, 2010 12:39 AM

~~Update for 16th June 2010

 
 
It's been consensus  that this figure was made to represent The Sargent "Mike" in Saving Private Ryan, now that people have had a look at my rendition of him. sobeit then, he does resemble the wingman of that famous fight'n schoolteacher name'a "Miller'
 


You'll notice I've finally attached his helmet & hands , and painted in his putties, and some other details...he pretty close now....although I'm not sure I like this set of hands on him---from some angles they are quite good--from others they seem a little over-sized--strange they did not in trials without the high-contrast of paint in place---and strange how the kit hands looked far-under-sized to me...but maybe that's what worked with this sculpt? The sleeve-ends are moulded to narrow points that don't fit down on the broad part of the hand, if you see what I mean? Also at this point his legs look just a little short for his torso to me--I'll have to change hands again I think.
 


Before getting his dull-cote--and after shooting these photos---I've brushed-on a little Future on his arm-patch areas, in prep of placing his insignia.


A few layer s now on boots & putties...and a few more tries to get what I wanted on some other small detail. This guy has shown me the opposite-- a set of hands I wasn't sure I liked before painting that I now do like alot---go figure. It's just a feature I know that I'm picky about.
 

I suppose he's about ready to be armed and completed  Big Smile

 


I'll hold off on the weathering of his uniform & helmet--though really needed for the right "look' until I have the look of the groundwork where they're going established.
 

 

Work's continued with "John" too....
 


His boots & putties where painted essentially the same as "Mike's", though they lacked alot of the nice detail, and took a lot more work to get something decent.
 


He's very 'close' now too---and will get similar markings as his associate.
 

~~I'll shoot you guys an update as son as it gels Gents.............

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Posted by Bodge on Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:43 AM

Thats the one Indy. What a talented Guy. I think it is superb. The 1/16 scale figures i am waiting for are equally as impressive . They are German Grenadiers  and Machinegunners in winter clothing in seated positions to ride on a tank.

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:51 PM

Great work as always Indy, as cool as the German uniforms were I love seeing some Allied stuff for a change.

I've been kicking around some ideas on a small Korean War dio and I'll be borrowing some of your techniques and ideas for my GIs. 

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Posted by jetmodeler on Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:34 PM

They look great so far.Bow Down Kind of a funny how I had plans on going to my LHS tomorrow and getting a set of figures based on WWII soldiers U.S. and German and today I came across this post and you doing American soldiers.Smile

 

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Posted by *INDY on Friday, June 18, 2010 3:34 AM

Bodge

Thats the one Indy. What a talented Guy. I think it is superb. The 1/16 scale figures i am waiting for are equally as impressive . They are German Grenadiers  and Machinegunners in winter clothing in seated positions to ride on a tank.

~Andy~ Thanks so much--very generous praise      (you just made the X-mas list  Big Smile)

~Gamera~ Yeah the G.I.s are having thier day---the Germans are still facinating--but cetainly way over-modeled when you consider how  few examples you see from most countries really. I'd like to see what you come up with.

~Jet~ Hey buddy~ I hope you post up whatever you get started with for the next scene--take away anything here that helps, and ask any questions---there's some real experts following along----

~~A modeler-friend of mine contacted me asking for a little more detail how I choose to paint clothing in particular, mixing /picking color for highs&lows, I think is what he's asking is painting order

 ~~The order, for me, is usually a basecoat that's a middle tone for the color I want, and a slightly darkened wash of that color goes in and brings out the detail, and shows where to paint. Usually I use a slightly darker version of that color, made with black, very dark brown or dark green, depending on the kind of material it is, and that shadow goes into all the crevices, but hugs the underneath surface of the fold above. and 2nd darker version goes just on the bottom of that folds surface--and I will darken that on the spot for really reccessed areas, and mix it with the 1st shadow for more shallow folds, so more colors are made from the 3 I start with.

The highlights go in a similar order, onto the tops of the folds, and I nearly always do the lights last, as they are truelly on top and get destroyed by the darker colors anyways. After the basic highlights are on, I lighten the color on the palette with white usually (but often an ocre or other colour that is the lighter part of the main colour I'm using), and 'draw' that onto just the top thin edges of the top facing features.
 


Often an even lighter shade goes on top of that, very restricted so it does'nt show up as 'white'(unless its a white garmet-and then that's about the only area you have business painting white on a white garmet) --often I will omit some highlight, like on the wool trousers seen in this blog--as they just dont reflect much light.
 
~~One more important thing--that you won't hear everywhere--I often don't keep to the pure system as described, as some somewhat 'muddled' areas sometimes are more real looking than  high-contrast everywhere....like the guy in the 1st photo above. I went back after painting in a high contrast, system based jacket, and used the middle-tone to confuse where the shadows are, because after being promted to look at my own reference again, I could see the real thing only had so much contrast.
~~I know my photos are not consistent in color here, but you should see how in the end I purposely destroyed much of the contrast I painted in above Again, just more real to me.
 
 
OK...one more thing yet--often you need to go back and use lighter shadows to soften the dark contrasts they can create. In the photo below (painting a Hornet Ruskie with Tamiya acrylics!! Unheard of    Indifferent) I'm showing how the shadows on the top of his tunic are blended this way, and subtle,.... and those below the belt are harsh, and need to be integrated still.

See  What I mean? Leaving those shadows right under the belt dark, only right under the folds will be good--if some middle-tones are jabbed(stippled) into the transition area(like above)


That of any help? Or did I make things worse?Surprise

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, June 19, 2010 5:18 PM

Indy, those are coming along great! Its always nce to see some OD and Khaki among all the plethora of Field Gray here.

 

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Posted by Mic on Saturday, June 19, 2010 8:20 PM

oooh, you nabbed my S&T figure... I'm using him in my 442nd scene. Angry

Haha... yours will be done sooner, and better, than mine.

Steve

 

 

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Posted by *INDY on Sunday, June 20, 2010 4:52 AM

~Stick~ Much appreciated!  Yep, I'm on an Allied bandwagon ,especially the next few builds. I do Germans too, at least so far I've had Germans in my Dios being captured, burned to a crisp, being chewed-out by Superiors, and oblivious to a sneak attack.     I will portray some milling about in strength in a few builds I have planned....but there sure is too much of that out there, ain't there?

~Steve~ Man-that Lt. is cool enough to appear in more Dios than we got time to build! No shame using him as is--but you got a chance to alter him a little if you want---I'm trying to get away with no figure conversions this build.....we will see. oh &....Thanks for the vote of confidence buddyYes

 

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Posted by *INDY on Sunday, June 20, 2010 4:57 AM
 
 
 
 
This guy is "The Real McCoy"
 
 
 
Fittingly enough, the 1st figure started is 1st  to be finished (or there abouts) 
 
 
 
 
 
You may recall I mentioned losing the nice resin rifle sling from the kit, so the last step (aside from any late touch-ups and perhaps some insignia), was scratchbuilding the sling. This one is not perfect, but I went to about the farthest lengths yet to portray somewhat the complex Garand sling, from wiine bottle foil, pierced it along it's length  and detailed with some scrap P.E. and painted as some soiled leather with Vallejo.(now that I'm here with the zoom shots I see a few more areas to detail--OF course!)
 

You'll note that by time I was done, the boots we're very worn, which isn't so bad, but I replaced some shoeleather before finishing, so I end up weathering that color instead of bare resin after final placement.
 
 
I took a couple 'publicity shots'  adding him to my only Dio base he might really fit into, my only other U.S build (so far) in the Ardennes, He could use that weathering about now, but it's still fun to try---it's about now i realize I haven't even dull-coted yet!
 
 
Thanks as always for tuning in &....

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, June 20, 2010 9:28 AM

Great job Indy! Looking forward to seeing his two buddies.

Don't tell Stikpusher but I pulled out a box of figures and started fooling around with them even though his Korean War GB doesn't start for a week. I'm kicking around the idea of doing a few of them as a WIP, it would be my first one so I figure maybe I could start with something small like a few figures instead of something big like a vehicle.

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Posted by shoot&scoot on Sunday, June 20, 2010 4:13 PM

Sorry for not picking up on this thread earlier, I caught your post in dios.  Love the fantastic detail you bring out in the figs with your painting tehniques, hope someday mine will be half as good.  Re resin gun barrels, any chance you could fab them up using syringe needles?  Figure the ones from diabetic syringes would be close and they're already bored out.  Just a thought.  Keep up the great work!

                                                                                                       Pat

 

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Posted by rtfoe on Sunday, June 20, 2010 9:30 PM

Fantastic figures Indy. I really enjoyed the run up of your figure painting. All this done within a week...I know what it's like when adrenalin kicks in when working with a superb choice of figures...painting becomes a breeze.  The dio's going to look good with them.

What I like about them is that they're all in different degrees of weight and size.

Oh!...John Wayne did act in one ETO film...The Longest Day...as Major Vandervoort 82nd Airborne.

Cheers,

Richard

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Posted by *INDY on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:10 AM

~Gamera~ Hey man thanks--there are 5 total figures(so far) likely I'll add a jeep driver & some Half-track crew before the Dio is done, but I'll need the vehicles built before I can be sure of those figures poses, before i'll be painting those

~Pat~ I hope so too--I wish you the best with future endevours---as for hypo needles as barrels--yes I've heard of it working--I don't have any access to them though (happy to say Tongue Tied I saw the cap off them used as 1/35 clay pots also-to great success..Thanks for the comment--hope to see you again.

rtfoe

Fantastic figures Indy. I really enjoyed the run up of your figure painting. All this done within a week...I know what it's like when adrenalin kicks in when working with a superb choice of figures...painting becomes a breeze.  The dio's going to look good with them.

What I like about them is that they're all in different degrees of weight and size.

Oh!...John Wayne did act in one ETO film...The Longest Day...as Major Vandervoort 82nd Airborne.

Cheers,     Richard

~Richard~!~Right you are! The Longest Day---arguably the best WWII film made--many a modellers favorite--I do recall Wayne in that I think, ....may be time to see it again!

I greatly appreciate your excellent comments and observations as always--also your overdue for a Malaysian update I believe??Look forward to it.......... (Good of you to drop into the Figure Forum!).

I'm going over these guys with multible thin layers  of Testor's Dull-cote, and slight dustings of Mig pigment powders and some other small touches here and there at this point, and also trying something I've just dabbled with a little--adding insignia patches with some of the excellent transfers from Archer Fine Transfers
including these:

I did brush on a small amount of Future the upper sleeve and leave it a few days before applying the insignia. It's taking a few goes with the Dull-cote to kill the shinyness. These photos wer'e right after the 1st coat
 
 
I think the transfers are just fantastic and add an xtra level of detail that's crazy cool. Only thing is they are so crisp and fresh  I'm working to muddle them a little at this point so they fit in. Also takes a good bit of research to get anything close to right . I have Bob(Mike, Sarge) as a Staff Sergent, & John a 'Buck" Sergent I'm told they called the  chap having a plain 3 chevrons.
 
 
 
Really a pleasure to work with, my prefered decal solution for these is Tamiya's "Mark Fit" a one stop solution I'm liking better than  the old Micro Sol & Set
(but I'll keep them on the shelf for safe keeping  Wink)
 
 
 
I guess it's about time I look at completing 'John's' equipment set-up & these G.I.'s are near ready for service.
~Question~ You guys think this insignia could suit the other figures I'm working with? I'm thinking why not for the sniper,, but not so much for the 1st figure (S&T) I'm thinking he will get a single private's stripe done in the low-visability O.D.& black , the last figure will be marked as an Lieutenant.
 

Back again soon...thanks for the eyes on this......................

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Posted by mike91978 on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:33 PM

Looks great Indy!  The Archer transfers really pop and give all that OD and khaki some interest.  I'm looking forward to more.

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Posted by jetmodeler on Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:38 PM

mike91978

Looks great Indy!  The Archer transfers really pop and give all that OD and khaki some interest.  I'm looking forward to more.

Ditto

It really makes the figures look more lifelike. All the detail you put into the figures and then you got the ranks and the company patches and it looks amazing.Bow Down

 

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Posted by deafpanzer on Thursday, June 24, 2010 2:27 PM

Indy, I hate to break bad news... my wife doesn't like you anymore.  Why?  Because I have to buy those Archer Fine Transfers!  LOL Have to agree that it makes a huge difference...

One more thing... wondering why you didn't do the same thing to German figures?  Or its different because their badges are much thicker or something like that?

Andy

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Thursday, June 24, 2010 2:50 PM

Yeah Andy he was on my wifes list too for me buying all those Archer German uniform decals but he's in good graces again. I took her over to the hobby shop this morning and let her pick out three 1000 piece puzzles.Big Smile

You gotta give to get I guess

Tony LeeSmile

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Posted by *INDY on Friday, June 25, 2010 8:20 AM

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~Not much of an update yet, just been going over these guys with a few more sprays of dull-cote. There was some info brought to my attention that the Armored Divisional patch was likely worn only on the left shoulder at the time, But I'm not seeing it as impossible someone (like 'Mike' here) got ahold of an xtra patch to balance his jacket out--it sure looks cool anyway! It's just as likely that no patch would be worn at the time of a given mission for "security reasons" I thought It was my duty to mention to those following this blog

Mike~ Thanks for your comments man--I'm liking it all so far--Likely for variety I'll mix it up and show some of the figures in the scene with no patch, or 1 instead of 2, it's just more interesting and realistic even though they are pretty cool.   

Jet~ Hey Buddy--good to have you around! Thanks for sayin so--please stay tuned

Andy~ That's ok Buddy--keep using your friend to take the heat! She can't get at us as easy Surprise Meanwhile...get what you need when she aint lookin   8o)       Good stuff aint always cheap--I've avoided the expense before and not felt it was always importaint  to add the xtra detail--especially in combat zones the insignia was often minimal--like on the DAK figures--but I did include some remember.

 

 

Tony~ You know what to do  Good Sir---keep her puzzled! Tongue Tied

 

 

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Posted by deafpanzer on Friday, June 25, 2010 10:53 PM

LOL!  Now I remember the motorcycle and the helmet... wait until you turn 40 years old you will forget little things easily.  Trust me...

Andy

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, June 26, 2010 10:50 AM

There was some info brought to my attention that the Armored Divisional patch was likely worn only on the left shoulder at the time, But I'm not seeing it as impossible someone (like 'Mike' here) got ahold of an xtra patch to balance his jacket out--it sure looks cool anyway! It's just as likely that no patch would be worn at the time of a given mission for "security reasons".

What you're refering to is called "sandwiching", when two identical SSIs are worn.  The right shoulder SSI is reserved for the former overseas unit (AKA a "Combat Patch").  Wearing it on the right shoulder would indicate that the wearer has served in another unit between being re-assigned to the former combat unit.  

For instance, Say "Mike" there served with the 2 AD in North Africa. Then he was rotated back to the States for one reason or another (maybe his Daddy's a senator) and assigned to the Pentagon.  He'd wear that patch on the left while assigned there, and wears the 2 AD "combat patch" on the right sleeve.  Then, after a while, he wrangles a transfer BACK to his former unit, or maybe the CO got sick of his Dad hangin' around, and sends him back to his old unit, which is now in France.  He would be authorized to "sandwich" himself once he reported back to the 2 AD... 

It's a fairly common practice these days with multiple deployments taking place, and some unit commanders even authorize the "combat patch" as soon as a Soldier gets In Country (the 101st loves doing this, ever since GEN Patraeus left as Division Commander of the 101), but was fairly rare during WW2, since units didn't rotate back home, they stayed for the duration...  It was more common among Army Air Force pilots & aircrews, but not ground personel...    It's also common for GIs now to have two or more Combat Patches to wear.  I myself can wear the 3rd AD or 1st ID (but not both)...

As for not wearing any patches, that too happened fairly often in WW2.  Not so much for security, but more because the patches were made locally and it took awhile to get them into the Supply Sergeant's hands once deployed, and GIs would have one for their Class A's but none for their shirts or jackets...

Clear as mud, right?

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Posted by *INDY on Saturday, June 26, 2010 1:01 PM

~It figures you'd have the 'skinny' on that one---Thanks Hans--

~~I've been to work with the flesh on the Lt, figure #5
 
1st some base flesh tone over the washes...
 
 
...and two sessions blending in colors & shadows.  I have a servicable head now although at this magnification it's a bit textured.    I set him aside again to dry before continuing.

 
 

~~I've been wanting to add the gear to the Sergeant's web belt....but he wasn't moulded with one! 
          This had bothered me before, but now I'm really needing to deal with it.  You can see at his front the jacket has complete detail where the belt would clasp----so I'd always figured he had thrown on his webbing and just didn't have it buckled  ( which actually fit perfect in my scene where he's jumping from the jeep and heading towards the men at the halftrack, and maybe just grabbed his webbing, or had it lazily unclasped for the jeepride)
 
 

Still, you'd see the belt dangling in front if that's the case, and I wasn't too hot on attaching his personal gear to his jacket!   
 

 
So I dug up the remnants of a very old Verlinden U.S. personal webbing P.E. set  from long ago and cut sections of web-belt and (loosely) attached them with Locktight gel C/A ( a good choice as it won't 'run' onto finished areas)
 
 

This way I have the dangling belt and the jacket detail, and a place to hang his canteen,
What a relief  Zip it!
 
 

 I made it a tad long, and since shortened that left end a little.
 


 I'll get that painted-up and the gear set and be back with an update.
 
Thanks as always for your perusal and any comments.........

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 26, 2010 9:04 PM

Oustanding figure work going on here, Indy---another thread full of useful refs and step-by-step pics...very nice work...

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Posted by Railfan 233 on Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:10 AM

*INDY

~Anyway there's going to be three different groups of men in this scene(not yet displayed in any way) There's a few guys up on an M2 half-track, a few standing around the area, and a couple more who just rolled up in a Jeep

http://www.militarymodelling.com/sites/1/images/member_albums/41116/60thinfantrybelgiumspingle.jpg

Doesn't the 2nd guy back look like maybe the source of the S & T figure?

 

 

Now, that's an interesting photo. Mabe I out to think about doing some more WW II armor dioramas. Mabe I'll finally have an excuse for getting that M-3 half-track and I can have a use for that Tamiya kubelwagen I built a year ago (it fell from the shelf, and some parts are missing. Mabe I can "crash" it) Thanks for the insperation

  

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Posted by *INDY on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 7:54 AM

Manstein's revenge

Oustanding figure work going on here, Indy---another thread full of useful refs and step-by-step pics...very nice work...

Inh danke lhnen sehr, ehr viel Herr Feldmarschall !!  -

-I really appeciate that--from a man that knows his blogs and models and knows a well-produced post.

             More to come but not much visable progress last few days (although I've made a good start at the Half-track for the scene)    I did paint the Sergeant's new web belt basicaly in Tamiya XF-62 with some XF-60 in it.

 

an interesting note though is that that belt color is about the one for my Half-track (coming up)

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Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:51 AM

Indy

You are the MASTER of WIPs.  Once again, you are putting together a gem!

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by *INDY on Thursday, July 1, 2010 12:27 AM

bbrowniii

Indy

You are the MASTER of WIPs.  Once again, you are putting together a gem!

~~That's very kind Boyyd - I really appreciate it!

 

~~"Sergeant Wayne" Complete~~

 
 
 
 
'The Man' was outfitted with his canteen, entrenching shovel and M1911 .45 Pistol, weathered with a little Mig pigs (Euro Dust & Gulf War Sand) mostly to the boots, putties,lower trouser, and helmet.
 
 
Note the black canteen cap worn to aluminum and the bare wood under the chipped O.D. of the entrenching tool.
 
 
The .45 holster was done in oils in several aplications , the flaps 'catch' picked-out with Floquil Brass enamel.(a bit drybrushed to some other fittings originally brass too)
 
 
Here's my most recent model (The Sarge), with the 1st build I did after the 30 year break.  This is the old Tamiya Harley here for sense 'o' scale  (That Mini-Art H.D. kit just winked at me from the shelf I think! )
 
 
Great to have you along with me........................
 

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Posted by Mic on Thursday, July 1, 2010 8:41 AM

He looks great, you really nailed the tone of his jacket.

 

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Posted by jetmodeler on Thursday, July 1, 2010 8:57 AM

Ditto You did a good job on the tones.

I've gotta get me a set of those fine transfers.Big Smile

 

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Posted by *INDY on Friday, July 2, 2010 12:12 AM

~Steve--thanks man-   I appreciatee that.

~Jet~ Right on man-thank you!  Yeah those Archer's are all that--just another ingredient(a little pinch is stellar--but you can use too much tooZip it!

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Posted by *INDY on Sunday, July 4, 2010 6:01 PM

Pvt Mutt

Yeah Andy he was on my wifes list too for me buying all those Archer German uniform decals but he's in good graces again. I took her over to the hobby shop this morning and let her pick out three 1000 piece puzzles.Big Smile

You gotta give to get I guess

Tony LeeSmile

Where ya been Tony--haven't heard a peep out'a ya in days--are you perfecting those figures or been helping the Missus build those puzzles ??Tongue Tied

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