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Posted by ponch on Friday, August 13, 2010 4:36 PM

Yeah, I've noticed that the prices for the old Nitto and Wave kits online have gone up quite a bit, starting when the new releases from Hasegawa and Wave started hitting the shelfs.

I guess people are trying to cash in on the new MaK fever Smile

 

 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:28 PM

Thanks for the advice Cosmic J, sounds good to me, so we can use both of the threads.  So if you want to post that completed or whatever, please do so.  I was wondering, so Yous Guys, did I say that right for a Dixie Boy, anyhow, is it me or does it seem like the prices for Nitto Ma.K kits are just getting ridiculously high in price?  I have noticed in the last few weeks a steady increase in what people think they can get for Ma.K (Nitto) and have seen some trying to do it w/Wave??????  Here is what I am talking about, an individual had a Nitto (X3 of them) kits w/a $4.99 start bid, but the ship charge was $40.00??????  I PM'd and asked why do it this way, was told to mind my business!  Now guys, please understand, I am all for a person getting his price f/a kit, but when you do it underhanded,  I hope that little lite goes off: RIP OFF!  I have mailed/UPS cartons, weighing lb.s that was less than $40.00.  My advice to this when you see it, buyer beware.  And for some reason, Ma.K kits seem to be easy pray for this.  Watch out what you buy!  But also there are many good deals to be had if you just look, and fellas, the best thing to do, is get a good understanding of kit values, I for one will not pay $300.00 f/any Ma.K kit, regardless of who, what and where.  But that's just my 2 cents worth.

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Posted by Cosmic J on Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:42 AM

Gunpla Master

  Outstanding Cosmic J, I am not sure which one of these super great kits you will post as a WIP, but can you do me a favor, I have moved this Ma.K GB to this location:  Go to Forum & Community, after that you will see the thread labeled Group Builds under the headings of the subjects of the Forum, click Group Builds and you will find the place I have started the WIP GB f/Ma.K.  I thought I was doing the right thing by officially starting this there, but I seemed to have caused some confusion for everyone.  I believe this is what and where a GB is to be conducted, but if I am wrong, please inform me and we can do this where ever you say??????? HELP

Normally when I do a GB, I post both in the GB and the relevant section. For example, my Hell Hound Hovertruck was done as an IDF "What If" type vehicle, so I posted in both the GB section and here.

I find that doing so increases exposure for interested folks, because not everyone looks at all the forums on the boards - I look here in SF, in Figures, Dios and sometimes Armor. I only go into Autos, Helicopters or Real Space when I'm actually building one of those kits (which means rarely).

So don't worry, no harm, no foul. Cool

 

 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 6:38 PM

Gunpla Master

Can anyone please explain how to link this to the other thread I have started in Group Builds, or can you help me do this FSM.

Problem solved, if you are posting a WIP w/the Ma.K Group Build, then proceed to the other thread and do so there.  I will not ask anymore!Geeked

Ma.K GB is located in the Group Builds of FSM Forum.  Is not difficult to find.  Thanks.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:16 PM

Can anyone please explain how to link this to the other thread I have started in Group Builds, or can you help me do this FSM.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:14 PM

Cosmic J

Again, hurried. More pics w/ no captions:

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh234/CosmicJC/mechpictures019.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh234/CosmicJC/mechpictures021.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh234/CosmicJC/mechpictures023-1.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh234/CosmicJC/Wonderfesr%20Pics/Wonderfest%20pix/SANY0481-1.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh234/CosmicJC/mechpictures025.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh234/CosmicJC/mechpictures026.jpg

  Outstanding Cosmic J, I am not sure which one of these super great kits you will post as a WIP, but can you do me a favor, I have moved this Ma.K GB to this location:  Go to Forum & Community, after that you will see the thread labeled Group Builds under the headings of the subjects of the Forum, click Group Builds and you will find the place I have started the WIP GB f/Ma.K.  I thought I was doing the right thing by officially starting this there, but I seemed to have caused some confusion for everyone.  I believe this is what and where a GB is to be conducted, but if I am wrong, please inform me and we can do this where ever you say??????? HELP

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Posted by modelbuilder on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:26 PM

Ok guys I keep hearing of this build so thaught I would throw in for it. Trying to find a Gustav, a Firefly, or a Jerry/Super Jerry. Also might have a little surprise down the road. I like to lurk out here in the shadows the strike when least expected.

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Posted by Cosmic J on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:17 PM

My kit for our little GB will be the Nitto re-issue of the Raccoon, in 1/20 scale. It's the recon armor for the Mercenary forces in the M.aK. universe, covered w/ special sensors, and having certain stealth modifications. The gun arm was also removed, making this a two handed SAFS variant.

Back when Nitto re-popped the MaKs, I bought and built every one them. Most of them came w/ visible pilot figures, and the juxtaposition of Man and Machine appealed to me, therefore I built most of them w/ the pilot showing.

However, the figures in the Nitto kits were... somewhat lacking. Detail was soft, they had molding issues, and sometimes they were barely recognisable as human. It took a lot of work to get them to look good.

So, I decided that I wanted to build an SAFS without the pilot showing. Since I was going to make it a pure Mech build, I bought the most non-human looking SAFS of them all - The Raccoon.

However, the high quality of the other Nitto releases had made me a bit of a snob. When I opened my new Raccoon, I found the kit parts to be covered w/ flash and sink marks. GASP!

Thusly disappointed, I tossed my Raccoon into the closet to be used for spares.

In fact, a few years later when building a Jerry, I used the upper sensor array from my Raccoon to detail it. in those heady days when MaKs were everywhere and only cost $11 (yes, you read that right) I scavenged a bunch of my kits, including most of a SAFS Fireball for that same Jerry model.

However, times have changed, and I realise that I was probably too hard on this little model (not to mention the fact that the cost of these kits has at least tripled), so I decided to give it another go.

Now, Nitto produced a number of the SAFS kits, including the Prowler - a Fireball variant covered w/ additional sensors. A little know fact, the Prowler kit contained all the sprues from all the various SAFS kits, including the Racoon's upper sensor housing. So, I'll be scrounging the parts from my Prowler kit, and possibly making use of the leftover parts from my Fireball kit as well.

Some of these kits also came w/ short lengths of corrugated vinyl tubing that was used to cover up the connecting parts inside the limbs. I actually prefer this covering to the current vogue of using putty to re-sculpt the joints. Fortunately, one of my kits came w/ a spare set of these little bits of tubing, so I'll use those on my model.

...and that's about as far as I've progressed. Cool

 

 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:30 PM

OK guys, we got to get off this thread and onto the Ma.K GB, you will as already has been explained go the FSM's Group Build Forum.  Any and all are welcome. there is no deadline except that the GB will end 1-8-11, so you have until then to post up to.  As far as the Logo, it is up to you if you wish to use, I will say however it is not intended as something you must earn, by using it, it was intended to ID you as being apart of the Ma.K GB, but what ever you wish if at the 1st or the last after you have completed your build, that is fine.  Just please, stop posting here and use the thread I have already set up for this.  Thanks and I hope to see you all soon on the other channel!  What I would like for ea. to do since you are posting a WIP, post a photo of the kit box photo to give everyone a idea of just what you are thinking about building and if started, post a photo of where you are @.  This will help to get things rolling.Hmm

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Posted by Ti4019 on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:56 AM

try using Reaper gaming paints for skin tones, its all I use anymore and I paint full nudes sometimes. Very thin layers not slopped on the way enamels are gobbed on is the key. Ill have up to 30 layers on a  figure when Im done but they are micro thin.

Ill add the GB logo after I complete and submit. I have never believed in displaying something I had yet to earn.

If you aren't having fun, you're doing it wrong! Build to please yourself and they will flame you every time!

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:11 AM

ponch

Howdy,

 

Hopefully it's not too late to join the GB?  Somewhere in my stash I have the old Nitto PKA H0 asking to be built Stick out tongue

Sure, I posted on the Group Build section yesterday for the start of the build, but so far no-one other than my 1st reply to start has been posted.  By all means do, post a photo of the subject you are going to build and give a little back ground.  All others please do the same who wanted to do this please!

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Posted by ponch on Monday, August 9, 2010 10:07 PM

Howdy,

 

Hopefully it's not too late to join the GB?  Somewhere in my stash I have the old Nitto PKA H0 asking to be built Stick out tongue

 

 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Monday, August 9, 2010 6:16 PM

Thats a Roger, that is what I was talking about, it is hard to convey human skin tones, we tend to think in a single tonal sight, but skin is very difficult to realistically capture,  And then we get to the eyes, the windows to the soul can be a daunting task!  I painted Military Figures for years and never did feel that I had conquered the ability to paint a human face the way I wanted.  I for one am looking forward to this WIP smeagol.

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, August 9, 2010 6:03 PM

im gona have to do ALOT of work with skin colors, its really difficult.

 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Monday, August 9, 2010 5:56 PM

That is great news smeagol, makes you wonder about our Postal System some times.  I too have had a package get to me faster from Japan than one coming form Washington State?  Go figure.  But anyway, glad you got her and yea, I want the 1/16th suit too!  Please post your start on the Group Builds Section of FSM's Forum.  I have already made the 1st post and everything is ready for all to start posting their WIP.  I can not wait to see what you do with this figure.  For those who read this and have not done a 1/20th figure, it is harder than one thinks to get right, but after seeing smeagol's work, I know he is going to do her justice.  This thread can still be used if you want to keep posting completed subjects, but please for all future post of a WIP go to FSM's Group Builds as listed in the Forum guide.  Thanks for sharing your good news smeagol, now stop drooling all over her and lets see some photos of her!Cool

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, August 9, 2010 5:45 PM

just got my package with the figure, got here from shanghi faster then a package I ordered the same day from Kansas.  Its a gogeous figure im gona order from them again, they have a 1/16th and 1/12th AFS and im gona get one.

 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Monday, August 9, 2010 5:22 PM

Hello Klik and Ti4019, glad to hear from both of you and welcome you to the Ma.K GB.  I do believe I am going to switch this thread over to the Group Builds of the FSM's Forum.  So if that is cool with everyone, we will now meet on the Group Builds under the same heading Maschinenkrueger Group Build.  I again encourage everyone to add the wonderful logo that Cosmic J has worked to bring us to your signature on your profile.  After all, since he took the time to design and put into place, why not use it.  I for one am thankful for his help and hope ea. who use, will tell him so.  Now, we have talked a bunch and discussed many things so far, but this month is running and day light is burning, so lets get to snipping plastic and smearing glue.  Just remember to post your threads on Group Builds.  Good building too all.  The rabbit has left the gate!!!!!!!!!!Hmm

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Posted by Ti4019 on Monday, August 9, 2010 12:02 PM

I would like to get in with my SAFS with "night mods"

If you aren't having fun, you're doing it wrong! Build to please yourself and they will flame you every time!

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Posted by Klik on Monday, August 9, 2010 9:36 AM

Geez, I go on vacation, and you guys go and start a groupbuild! Is it too late to join in? I would love to post some pics of my Lunadiver and its S.A.F.S. suits, which currently sit at about 80% finished.

G.M., your suit looks awesome, keep up, as always, the great work.

oneyearwar1

The hardest part of flying isn't flying...it's landing.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 8, 2010 4:42 PM

PRIMEDBig Smile

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 8, 2010 4:12 PM

Hope today has been a day of rest for everyone.  I thought I would post where I am @ as of 5:00 today.  All PE joints have been coated w/vallejo matt varnish.  This will seal the poly plastic and allow paint to stick w/o peeling off, @ least that's the idea!  Next the complete suit has been wiped down w/ Mr. Hobby thinner to clean any oils from my hands from handling, helps to adhere Mr. Surfacer Primer 1200 prepping the plastic this way.  Also notice I have added the attachment points f/the hydraulic cables.  These are really turned alum. collars for use on Gundams, but they look cool used like this as well.  I cut the windshield/screen what ever you wish to call it, down to allow it to be still seen 3/4's of the way open.  I want to display the face shield up but the individual caught ready to fight.  I feel that if given this type suit, one would have the face shield down for battle, the rest of the time, open for the fresh air.  I imagine it gets a bit stuffy inside this tin can, we sure did in tanks and kept the hatches open as much as we could!  I have drilled and added a brass rod to the right bottom of the foot to mount the AFS to a block of wood to help hold while I paint.  Well that's about it and after posting this, I will go outside and spray prime this little bad boy down.Cool

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 8, 2010 10:14 AM

Cosmic J

I first saw the SF3D kits at a local game shop I frequented back in the mid 80's. We were really into Steve Jackson's Games OGRE/GEV and Battlesuit, so I was very keenly interested... unfortunately I was also mostly broke at the time.

Then just about the time I bought my first airbrush, Nitto began re-releasing these kits. It was... Cosmic. Cool

 

 Gunpla Master:

PS:  Where are some more WIP, I seem to be the only one postingCrying

 

Sorry, been very busy this week. I'll get something up soon, and a better badge too.

 

 

 

Badge is just fine like it is.Toast

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 8, 2010 10:12 AM

After you have added your GB logo to your signature and you are ready to post, I am not sure if we keep this thread going with all the posting, or do you post your own WIP thread for the GB.  This is something I am not sure of and you guys that have been longer than me may be of help in this regards.  I know on other Forums, ea. individual starts his own thread for the WIP, but if you wish, then keep posting here.  That is up to you, I just thought it would cut down trying to go thru a single thread w/ever how many post to it ea, day.  Suggestions will be most welcomed.  I am well pleased with all the info, support and work of those who are helping with this.  I have never done this before and I for one am excited to see what you wonderful bunch of Geeks do w/this this, oh you going to luv this, one of my grands came into my study and saw the AFS and said oh look paw paw plays with little spacemen!Clown

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 8, 2010 10:01 AM

Cosmic J has so graciously helped to design a GB logo for us and it is easy to add,  copy the photo off of his or my post, send to your photo image host, then copy and paste go to your profile and under signature, paste the photo and it will transfer to all postings you have posted.  Neat and please be sure to thank Cosmic J for his help in this. I LIKE THIS! Yes

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 8, 2010 9:48 AM

Outstanding, now how do we get it to post in our thread like it is doing for you.  And by the way good job and I appreciate all you have done to help.

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Posted by Cosmic J on Sunday, August 8, 2010 1:19 AM

Here, how about this:

 

 

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Posted by Cosmic J on Saturday, August 7, 2010 10:18 PM

I first saw the SF3D kits at a local game shop I frequented back in the mid 80's. We were really into Steve Jackson's Games OGRE/GEV and Battlesuit, so I was very keenly interested... unfortunately I was also mostly broke at the time.

Then just about the time I bought my first airbrush, Nitto began re-releasing these kits. It was... Cosmic. Cool

 

Gunpla Master

PS:  Where are some more WIP, I seem to be the only one postingCrying

Sorry, been very busy this week. I'll get something up soon, and a better badge too.

 

 

 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Saturday, August 7, 2010 9:17 AM

PS:  Where are some more WIP, I seem to be the only one postingCrying

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Saturday, August 7, 2010 9:14 AM

Well that was enlightening, I am the big double nickle and it all works just fine thank ya.  I can see good and clear as long as I have my glasses on, admit I have a hard time @ 100 yards, the bulls eye gets a bit outta whack!  When I wake up in the AM, I jump right up out of bed and w/a bent posture fumble my way to the lou, finally after a strong cup of joe I am ready for another fun day @ work (7 mores years and I can build 24/7).  I seem to be fine after work until I get home and set down in the recliner, seems after that my body says, I have had enough of hauling your big butt around today and I am going to stay right here!  Eat (hope heart burn stays away), a little modeling time, then off to bed to roll and tumble until blissful sleep and then another sunny dayCool.  To be honest, I am thankful for everyday I get on this side of eternity.  @55 I have all my parts, nothing has ever been cut out, never spent a single night in a Hospital as a patient, when I go for a physical I get a big your fit as a fiddle from the Doc.  I admit I am over weight, but @55 I do the job of a 20 year old!  That keeps me going.  @97 my ole Granny was still planting a garden and canning!  And smeagol, your  a whipper snapper, but U are and will be the Historian of the group, vast knowledge in a young man.  I am pleased we have such a diverse group in this, will be interesting to see the different takes because of the age groups.  Now fellas, we got to get some young people involved, see who you can wring their little necks err I mean encourage to join. LOL  Happy modeling on this bright sunny day and may the bird of paradise not take a dump on your heads!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Saturday, August 7, 2010 1:39 AM

SLW 45

Sorry to say almost double that Embarrassed

 

Similar here. Tongue Tied  Eyes and hand/eye coordination are not what they used to be.

 

Wanted to head out to look for a Nitto SF3D kit, but realised I need to work on a comissioned Moebius Viper MkII.

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