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wow, this is one nice kit and great thread. Don't visit the SciFi section much, but glad I did. This along with another sub model I've seen are the only 2 subscription model I've seen so far. Start of a new trend.  Sure helps with the cost, and it is expensive.  So I'm living it thru your log. Thanks.

I know what you mean... I don't get out of my little Scifi bubble very often, but every so often I'll wander around the armor and tanks or warships forum just to see the builds.  Its amazing the detail on those things these days.  I remember back when I was a kid, wondering why the cockpit seat of the jet was so "toyish"... now they got all the rivets and instruments etc and it's amazing!  Helps to take a look around at what else is out there now and then.  Gives ya inspiration!  Ya never know... we may lure you to the dark side of the force before you know it! :)  Muahahahahahahha

wow, this is one nice kit and great thread. Don't visit the SciFi section much, but glad I did. This along with another sub model I've seen are the only 2 subscription model I've seen so far. Start of a new trend.  Sure helps with the cost, and it is expensive.  So I'm living it thru your log. Thanks.

Wow, I'm surprised too that they didn't stick any packing material in there. Well, if nothing is broken I can't complain!

Heavens Eagle

That is good to hear LS.  You know it wouldn't even need to be bubble wrap.  They could use some of those little air bags to take up the excess space and keep things from banging around.

 

Also, congrats in that you almost have all of the basic bottom pieces!

 

LrdSatyr8

I just got pack #9 a couple of weeks ago and was highly surprised to discover that everything was contained in bubblewrap this time around!  Very pleasant surprise!

 

I just got pack #9 a couple of weeks ago and was highly surprised to discover that everything was contained in bubblewrap this time around!  Very pleasant surprise!

I got my latest shipment in last week.  Nothing really special about anything in it.  For those of you keeping track of all the parts lists and all here is the newest Basic installment.

That's all for now.  With this post we are fully up to where I am at with this build.  All the way current.

As of this weekend I am taking a little break from the Falcon and am building on the 1/32 Trmpeter Ju 87A kit.  I have the Eduard PE sets for it and will be adding some of that to the build.  I won't be using the kit decals  for the aircraft call letters though.  I found a great photo of one of the early color scheme planes and will be using the Alliance Modelworks stencil set for the letters.

If you would like me to start a thread on the Ju 87A similar to this one, post a request here or PM me.  In some ways the FSM forum is nice, but it is the most difficult to post to of the forums I post on, especially as I post either using my tablet or phone.

Well when I started comparing screen caps I discovered the one in the hold is actually a bit taller with a few other greeblies... I think it's because the head rest topperis adjustable and was raised up about 5 inches.  There's also what looks like a bowl stuck to the top of it like a radar dish, which is weird, but I'm adding it.

Yeah those 3 seats based on the Martin Baker ejection seat frames are going to be a bit of a pain to do.  The ones in the kit are so wrong that they are pitiful.  I will probably do mine in separate parts and make rubber molds. Then it is easy to make multiples and they are all the same then.  Only have to do one real nice master and the castings are good to go.

I will also be making the 2 bucket seats as well as the kit parts are too large.  Again I will make one real nice master and then a rubber mold.  Easy enough to make multiples then.

I know the feeling well my friend... These seats are taking longer that I initially thought and am starting to feel the burnout myself, but am determined to finish at least one of them! LOL

Hey LrdSatyr8!  Really like your build!

Actually, I have some really thin steel wire I was thinking of using for the switches.  The fiber optics will get ised for something needing lighting.

Your interior diagrams of the walls were quite interesting.  I was going to be doing something like that but yours will give me a much better starting point. 

Thinking about taking a small break from the cockpit and doing some serious cut-n-chop on the hold.  I keep seeing major things that folks are doing (or not doing) that need to be corrected there.  Need to do some "not so fiddley" type work to keep from doing the burnout thing.

That really looks good my friend... I really have to get some new bits.  Would be nice to have a press too.  I got an idea for doing all the little switches on the side panels for ya.  Use fiber optics.  Just drill your holes andglue them in and cut them to length.  That should look pretty good for them.  Whatcha think?

I got the next update done quicker than I originally thought.  

See  Duster!  Measuring does pay off.  The trick is knowing HOW to do the measuring.  All that time spent on a drafting table has definitely paid off here.

So here is the initial results of my first test build (and fail)  along with the revised start of the Mark II panel.

Enjoy!

This section is going to be the hardest part of the whole build.  So much micro detail that can be seen and my OCD that makes me want it RIGHT.

Let me know what you think.   There will be a Basic post soon covering Issues 21 thru 24.

I have completely dumped the thought of using fiber optics in the cockpit for now.  It just didn't do what I wanted.  But I get ahead of myself here.  I had my rear wall laid out and was looking at putting the buttons on in straight lines.  I was going to need something to help.  So here is where I went and made a accurate little tool to help with things like this.

The whole point of this was that I really needed to do some testing.  I didn't know if my idea would work or not.  I didn't know if the paint would work, or if the little plastic squares would look right.

So in the next few days I will post my alpha test.  I learned a number of things, some good some bad.  I have come to believe that you learn more from attempts that fail than you do if everything just works.  In this case that was quite true.

One nice thing that came of it is I now have a thin alternate to the adjustable machinists square that I use all the time.

Heavens Eagle

No good rod in "exactly" the size I am doing.  Usually extruded rod isn't all that square either.  Who knows, my prototy[e might look great and won't need to be redone.  I will just have to wait and see once I do the test.  Also the paint I'm going to use might not be opaque enough.  Will just have to see.

Here's something I was thinking about for mine that might help... how about using a small press and melting the end of the fiber optic and pressing it into the square to make it squared off.  Might be worth trying, but doubtful.  I'm working on my nav chairs right now.  Almost finished with them.  Unlike you, I'm eyeballing everything instead of measuring.  Makes things go alot faster and doesn't require perfection (even though I require it and toss out alot of stuff because it didn't suit my OCD!)

Gamera

WOW, so this only makes 1/5th of the kit so far!?!  Gee whiz!!!

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 Wow that is a lot of "comming in" parts in your future.

I am confident you'll know how to pound them into submission and turn their sow ears into a silk purse.

So, Heavens Eagle, I finally get a bit of time to make another reply, lol.

I think what stands out for me the most with this build is the degree of planning you are putting in to it. Oh sure, there's obviously skill in designing and fabricating more accurate parts, but  it seems to me it's the planning that really makes all that possible. That said, this thread continues to impress! I am particularly impressed with the plotting and fabrication of the cockpit bulkhead; should be incredible when finished.

There was a time I thought it might be cool to build the DeAg Falcon, but now that I know there are so many inaccuracies I would feel compelled to "accurize" it as best I could. I think this is an excellent example of ignorance is bliss, because I don't think I could just accept it as is now, hahaha ! I'm not at all saying it is not a good kit or that I couldn't enjoy it, just that I would  enjoy it much more if I made it more accurate.

I noticed when I logged in that there were nearly 1,900 views. Perhaps some of those views are folks doing a search on this Millenium Falcon kit and are looking for a solution to a problem. Or you could be right and some are bashful.  At any rate, I am really enjoying this build. Good stuff!

TF

If so few people are commenting on this thread, it's probably because, like me, they are spending most of their time scraping their jaw off the floor while looking at your work. Seriously great stuff!

Guess that's just me, if I buy a middle quality or cheap kit I don't mind doing a little extra work but if I'm buying a top of the line model I expect it to be pretty close to perfect out of the box. 

I couldn't agree with you more though that if you're having fun you're doing it the right way. And since you paid for it, build it whatever way you want. 

Gamera

WOW, so this only makes 1/5th of the kit so far!?!  Gee whiz!!!

Though on the downside you'd think they wouldn't cut corners. If I paid that much for a kit I'd be a little miffed too about having to scratchbuild and purchase extra detailing parts. 

 

In looking around at some of the U-tube vids there are a fair number of folks that are quite happy with the OOB offering. I am very rarely content with what is in the box.  I also have the HK 1/32 B-17 G kit with all the aftermarket goodies.  The price point becomes fairly close to what this one is when you do that.

Some folks just like to put together a model and aren't too concerned about anything beyond that.  Like assembling a picture puzzle.  Others like to do all the extra stuff (like me).  There is one guy on U-tube that drves me up the wall at times. He fumbles around with things and isn'the brightest bulb on the sign,  but he is so happy with the basic kit and is informative on parts in future Issues that I watch his build.  Helps me plan ahead.

The thing I always have to keep in mind is if that person is enjoying their build.  That is the whole point of all this.  To have fun.  Any hobby if you really get into it is going to cost money.  I know folks that blow a lot at casinos or spend a huge amount on cable TV.  Both of those are a waste to me, but some folks really like that.

Whatever floats your boat I say.

WOW, so this only makes 1/5th of the kit so far!?!  Gee whiz!!!

Though on the downside you'd think they wouldn't cut corners. If I paid that much for a kit I'd be a little miffed too about having to scratchbuild and purchase extra detailing parts. 

Here is the rest . . .

With this installment we are now current with where things are at.  Shipment #6 will probably be in sometime this weekend.   I will post on it once I have the new post put together.

In looking ahead at some of the videos from those in the UK, I have found that the lower frame will be complete at Issue #40.  I will assemble the lower frame at that time.  Also with Issue #40 a replacement (improved?) nose cone for the cockpit. There wil also be the (garbage) clear (garbage) parts for the turret and 'pit  (garbage) windows.  If you haven't guessed yet they look like something from a 3 year olds toy.  Garbage.

The boarding ramp will be in my hands by Issue #40 as well.  I knew it was going to get a total makeover after seeing the Utube video of the prototype in operation.  It goes up and down WAY too fast and there is nothing up inside except the ridiculous frame where the opening should be.  That is going to get an EXtreme dose of rework when the time comes.

But that is down the road a ways.  For now the cockpit is being a major challenge, so be patient sports fans, more is coming on that soon!

LOL!  Thanks guys, I do appreciate your posts! Getting feedback is one of the reasons that I do posts in here.  While there is a lot of stuff that I excel at, there is also a fair amount of stuff that I could use some suggestions on.  Coming up soon I will be printingout some custom decals for the first time.  Have done some looking and reading online, but until you actually do it, there is that element of "Oh Crap!" waiting to happen.

As I have shipment #6 now on it's way, I thought it is time to get the Basic posts all current.  Here is the info for the stuff in shipment #5.

To be Continued....

We have status? Meh.

All I know is I like what I like lol. I'm a broad spectrum kind of geek.

What you are doing here is just one of those "awe" inspiring builds. I've seen this partially built on other sites but this is something extra with the lengths you are willing to go to, so it's "right".

Other than sitting here on the other side of the net in a comfy chair and saying "whoa" to myself, I have nothing to say that would contribute to making this thread any better than it already is.

I'm sure I'm not the only one with this reaction so keep watching that viewer count as it will tell you all you need to know about how much interest you have here.

When something is this awesome, there are few to little words necessary lol.

You just keep going, because we're paying attention. ;)

Statis as armour modelers??? What do you think I'm risking with posting nice things about a Star Wars model if my fellow Star Trek fans find out about it?!!?! 

Gee, no wonder you work is so primo, you measure stuff! 

Who knew you could do that and get such good results?  Sure beats my  eyeball and knuckle  to knuckle  measurin’ system.

Seriously: Great Stuff

Gamera

Still looking awesome! Thanks again for letting us tag along.

 

Thanks again for your post Gamera!  Most appreciated!  I kind of keep an eye on the looky loos too to see how many folks are looking in and too bashful to actually post something.  (They might loose their status as a die hard military modeller if caught posting on a SciFi thread  )

Still looking awesome! Thanks again for letting us tag along.

Continued...

That is all for now folks.  There is a bit more of the basic and a short post yet for the EXtreme and I will be up where I am currently in the build.  Most of the hold changes are already planned out and shouldn't be more than cut and chop.  The cockpit is going to be my biggest hurdle, and the most challenging.  If I can do it to the level I am wanting, it should be awesome and really unique.

Thank you so much for the kind comments leemitcheltree and TF!  Much appreciated!

The rear cockpit bulkhead is going quite slowly.  I did do a prototype test this weekend and found many problems with the execution of my idea.  The basic idea is still fairly sound but (as I already knew)  the initial sets of square buttons were not accurate enough to work well, but showed the flaws in the test.  I have fixed that issue and have some very precise jigs made out of aluminum now to cut the square buttons out and they look GREAT!

The flaws I found are that the alclad chrome will not work on top of the bare acrylic very well.  The black primer on top of that chips off extremely easy.  Bad is it won't work, good is that I can use this on other builds to do chipped paint.  

As to the light coming through from behind, the clear plastic buttons are fairly bright once the paint is removed from the top surface, but can't get a consistent coat of white paint on it where they will be translucent.  I do have some .005 thick styrene that works quite well for this though so that should work OK.  The buttons won't be extremely bright, but will have a off white glow.  So that will work out.

The little round light idea with some .010 dia fiber optic placed in drilled holes is going to be too problematic.  It "sort of" works.  Sort of in that the lines are fairly straight, but not in that the areas between the strands don't have enough paint and what to really give the lights the separate "spots" they need to be.  This issue is what is making me rethink how the panels will have to be done.

So I have another idea. 

As an initial rethink I believe that some .003 or maybe .004 thick brass sheet with holes drilled for all the lights and larger holes drilled for the square buttons is what will be needed.  This then also breaks the panels up into smaller parts to be done.  I will still use an acrylic back piece like I have already done but the brass will be attached to it.  Then I think I can print some decals to overlay that, punch out the holes for where the buttons go and attach them with small amounts of CA.  That should take care of the marking problems, light block problems, and I can drill the tiny light holes with VERY small carbide drills.  The digital attachment on my mini mill will make that job easy.  Time intensive, but easy.  It will also be more crisp than a similar panel done as photo etch.

Anyway, enough on that for now.  I will have some photos on it soon.  For now I need to get some more of the basic stuff posted and get it closer to current.   Here are some more of the basics.

To be continued...