Bobstamp

dlh asked:

 

dlh

What size are the little plasitic pill bubbles?  Are they mounted on top or through the holes in the ceiling. 

 

I used blister-packaged Option+ Omeprazole, an over-the-counter drug for GERD (Gastroesophegeal  Refex Disease) for the ceiling lamps in my Nautilus model.

Thanks for the detailed reply.  Your interior looks great; love the portraits on the wall.  I've "frosted" my LED's with sandpaper that that's made a lot of difference. Not sure how I'm going to handle it.  I think maybe your LED's are a little brighter than mine.  I know I can vary the brightness by changing resistor values.

Thanks again,

Dave

PS Sorry I misidentified the OP's lighting as yours.  Just realized that.

dlh asked:

dlh

What size are the little plasitic pill bubbles?  Are they mounted on top or through the holes in the ceiling. 

I used blister-packaged Option+ Omeprazole, an over-the-counter drug for GERD (Gastroesophegeal  Refex Disease) for the ceiling lamps in my Nautilus model.

With narrow flange included, the diameter of the blisters is 1 cm  (3/8  or 0.375 in).

Other pills come in similar "blister packs," including Option+ gravol (motion sickness med that I use for sleep issues), but I like the Omeprazole packaging better (the blisters are more rounded and look more like actual ceiling lights, perhaps more modern than Verne would have envisioned. I sprayed the interior of the blisters with Tamiya white primer.

I drilled a holes in the angled areas of the ceiling panel so that the LED lamps that I used were angled towards the opposite ends of the saloon. Each hole has with a diameter of about 8 mm (5/16 or 0.31 in).

I’m thinking of attaching a piece of shiny aluminum foil above each lamp in hopes of reflecting more light into the saloon. One the windows are in place, the details in the saloon won’t be easy to see, which I expected. It’s curious that it’s somehow important for me to know that the Nautilus’s saloon is very detailed, for my skill level anyway, even though little of that detail will be visible when the model is finished.  

Bob

Hi,Rob44!

     Appreciate that. I checked it out and the sub is not the Harper Goff Designed " Disney" version. Still, I guess it could be modified. By the way, That is Tanker-Builder. I do build Tanks for myself but don't display them Publically.

     However, I am known for Tanker Ships, therefore the Name. Oh, that's "Tanker" from Guiness tankers to Shell, Exxon and British Petroleum VLCCs and ULCCs! I never saw the new Breed as I had retired by then. At least I NEVER blocked the Suez Canal!

Awesome work on that interior. Your lighting looks great; best I've seen.  I'm building this model now using a  light kit from Voodoo, trying to get rid of the "spot" light effects.  What size are the little plasitic pill bubbles?  Are they mounted on top or through the holes in the ceiling.  Thanks for posting your build.

Dave

I too, have received great customer service from Evan Designs.  Great products as well as service.  You can always get a quick response from a knowledgable person, I highly recommend this company.  Please spread the word!

Just a note to say that I ordered another LED light from Evan Designs . They shipped it by USPS. According to USPS tracking, the package arrived in Los Angeles and stayed there, and stayed there, and stayed there.

After 10 days of it apparently moving around a little, and actually being returned to an earlier location, according USPS tracking, I emailed Evan Designs to ask if they could put a trace on it. They said they couldn’t do that, and never had been able to. USPS can’t tell its customers what’s happening to their packages! Unbelieveable. Anyway, the next thing I knew, Evan Designs had sent me another LED at no charge! That’s pretty amazing customer service.

Bob

As rob44 noted, the model is still available. I had no trouble finding one when I googled it. The scale is 1/144, although, since the Nautilus never existed, the scale of the model seems immaterial. I suppose that scale might be based on Disney mockups or on the size of "typical" early submarines. The finished model will be about 15 in/38 cm long.

Bob 

Here you go Tank Builder!

https://pegasushobbies.net/catalog/Models-Sci-fi-Model-Kits/c107_47/p2/%239120-1/144-The-Nautilus-Submarine-Kit/product_info.html

Such amazing detail!  I love all the nods to Verne and the movie.

Can't wait to see it placed in the full setting.

Well !!

     I love what you're doing. Question though. Where did you get the kit and what was the total cost? I would surrender half my stash to get my hands on one of those models. I have always loved that design from Harper Goff.

    What is the scale and is it still available? 

Great stuff Bob.  Nice added details.

Bob, that looks awesome! Love all the little touches you added. I wish I were Nemo so I could relax there and watch the fish swim by. I'd think being the enemy of the world would be stressful. 

And yeah, I tried to send a message a week or so ago. Didn't work at all. I was hoping they'd have fixed it by now... 

Finished with the saloon of my Nautilus model:

Some build notes:

I added a carpet, but shifted it to one side because I wanted both the couch and the globe to be on the carpet. I printed the carpet, from an image of a real carpet I found on-line, onto photo paper and glued that to the deck. (We can go to the moon, but we still can’t figure out how to make cameras to accurately replicate all colours in a scene. I used a nice chocolate brown for the deck, but it came out looking more like the beige walls.)

I figure that Capt. Nemo appreciated his creator, so I hung a portrait of Jules Verne to the right of the organ pipes. I also imagined that Capt. Nemo would predict that something called a movie might one day tell his story, and maybe he did. I’ve read only three of his novels. Anyway, my imagination said, “Bob, hang a portrait of the actor James Mason, to the left of the Nautilus's organ pipes." (Mason played the role of Capt. Nemo in the Disney movie, 20,000 Leagues Under the Seas.)

I wanted Capt. Nemo to be comfortable when he played his organ, so I added a pad to the organ bench.

I figured that Capt. Nemo, like any intelligent person, would appreciate Japanese art, so I mounted two different Japanese scrolls on the bulkhead beside the desk.

The kit didn’t come with a chair for the desk, so I scratch-built one, using the pilot’s seat from a spare Revell H.P.52 Hampden bomber. The pilot’s seat didn’t have legs, so I laminated three thin sheets of styrene to form a small square, glued the square to the bottom of the seat, and then used a thin steel file to remove plastic, leaving behind four chair legs.

Now I have to wrap the rest of the Nautilus around the saloon, which will be lighted with warm LEDs. I'm also planning to add cool LEDs to shine through the lights on each side of the large bay windows, and hopefully a warm LED in the sub's cockpit. The kit doesn't provide the cockpit with forward-projecting light for the cockpit, so that's something to think about. Getting all of those LEDs installed, unobtrusively, will be a challenge, but it seems that building scale models is all about challenge! 

Bob

Thanks for your offer, Chuck. I've tried sending a PM, without success. This website is a mess. I've previously had trouble changing my profile and a complaint to the webmaster lead to...zero. Let me work on the model a bit longer to see what I can figure out on my own. If I'm still having problems, I'll let you know.

Bob

Bob,

This turned out to be one of the nicest looking models I've ever made.  Somehow I managed to create an antiqued bronze finish that really sets it off.  

I don't recall having any difficulties with the instructions, but if you would care to give me  your e-mail address, I would be glad to send photos and discuss this further with you.

Chuck

As I move ahead with the building of my Nautilus kit, I am finding myself puzzled by the less-than-adequate instructions. The illustrations in the instructions are so small in some cases that I just can't tell what I'm supposed to do. I'd really appreciate being able to discuss this with someone who has built this model. Having some good close-up photographs of a completed kit would be a big help. Any takers?

Bob

I like that Bob, clever idea with the pill bubble wrap! 

I am very pleased with the LED lights offered by Evan Designs, as well as their great customer service. 

Yesterday, I temporarily assembled the Nautilus's saloon, with the LED lights affixed in holes I drilled in the ceiling. It looked great!

I pondered one problem for several days. It wouldn't work to have the lights just shine straight down through holes. I needed globes of some sort to diffuse the light and hit on a great solution, a foil packet for over-the-counter meds, like this:

I can use the pills, which are nearly identical to prescription pills I already take. I carefully cut away the plastic "globes," sprayed the inside of a couple of them with white primer, and glued them with Testor's window maker glue. Voila! 

Now I'm working on a chair for the desk that comes with the kit. Why didn't Pegasus include a chair! Capt. Nemo needs a chair! Now he will have one, upholstered in red velvet (simulated by red acrylic paint). I've also added some other decorative touches, including a carpet, two Japanese scrolls, and two portraits, one of Jules Verne and the other of James Mason as Captain Nemo in the Disney version of 20,000 Leagues Under the Seas.  

Pictures to come, eventually.

Bob

Thanks, Bobstamp, for that lead to Evans Designs.  I had been looking for a supplier for that kind of stuff.  Great website they have there, with lots of good information.

Congrads!!! Looking forward to hearing how they work out for you. 

Success! At least I think the attempt will be successful. I contacted Evan Designs, received excellent advice https, and ordered two of their kits, which seem to be simplicity itself in their assembly and use. I think I'm safe in recommending the company without reservations. I'll let you know how things turn out.

Bob

Here is a lighting kit that you can purchase, but perhaps you had something simpler in mind.  Note they simply omitted one of the main windows, to make the interior visible.

Warning:  These lighting kits can be difficult to build, because soldering tiny wires on tiny circuit boards is required.  And they are expensive, for what you get.

https://www.culttvmanshop.com/Nautilus-Light-kit-from-VoodooFX_p_2642.html

I'm almost finished with the saloon of my Pegasus Nautilus model, and have decided that it would be nice to add enough lighting to at least make it visible once the model is buttoned up. See the first post in this thread for the OP's lighting.

I've seen various web pages and build reviews, including some that discuss adding multiple LEDs, but I'd like just one to provide a bit of illumination to reveal the details of bookshelves, watertight doors, a rug, a couch, etc. that have taken me hours and hours to do. Can someone comment on the feasibility of adding just one simple LED, and where the lighting products can be purchased?

Bob

Good call Bob, using a brighter rug sounds like a good idea. Good to hear the Gorilla Glue worked out.

Thank you for your suggestion, Gamera. I decided to try Gorilla Glue and it seems to have worked well. I had decided to look for a better rug, one that's lighter in tone, and even more attractive to my mind.

The reviews of the Pegasus Nautilus model that I've read have commented that it's hard to see the interior through the large windows on each side of the vessel, so I figured that a lighter rug would work a bit better. I considered buying a set of LED lights for the model, but I don't think I'm ready to build in that degree of detail.

Bob

Bob: That looks sooooooo cool!

I'd think the Gorilla Glue should hold it. My go to ultimate glue though is two-part epoxy. Once it's cemented on with that you need a pair of pliers to rip it back off.

I hope it's OK to piggyback a post onto this thread.

I’ve begun building the Pegasus model of the submarine Nautilus of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea fame, and have encountered a problem, not with the model itself but with some “kitbashing” of the model.

Early in this thread, I noticed the rug which the OP had added to the submarine’s saloon, which features a double couch, world globe, organ, desk, and bookcases. What a great idea, I thought! I went searching for a good rug image, found one, and resized it. Here's what it should look like with the rug, couch, and globe in place: 

 I tried to use Bare-Metal Foil adhesive to stick the rug onto the flooring. I had never used that adhesive (haven’t yet been brave enough to use the foil itself), but I brushed on a thin coat, which was soon tacky, placed the rug in the correct position on the saloon’s flooring, and rubbed it down with a soft cloth, as suggested on the bottle of adhesive. An hour later or so, I picked up the assembly to look at it, and the rug just fell off! Next I tried a thin coast of Elmer’s white glue. Same darn thing happened! No adhesion whatsoever!

The problem, in part, may be the “boards” of the floor, which are separated by grooves. Perhaps the boards are too narrow for the glue to adhere to. Or maybe the “boards” have nothing to do with it. I assume that the photo paper is backed by a thin film of plastic. Could that be the problem?

In any event, I’d appreciate some advice about adhesives which may work. I’ve considered a thicker coat of Elmer’s white glue, or a thin coat of Gorilla Glue, or even a layer of Tamiya clear acrylic. Whatever I use, I don’t want the rug to come loose after the submarine is all buttoned up.

Bob 

Glad you got things figured out Bob. Never built a Pegasus kit so I had no idea about the plastic. 

On track at last! I tried the new bottle of Tamiya Extra Thin glue on a couple of the Pegasus Nautilus model, and they bonded quickly and thoroughly. Thanks, guys.

Bob