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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 8:00 PM

Great job on the face Phoenix, hard to believe you're new to this! 

And I love the cat video idea and your implimentation of it! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 5:47 PM


Hence the designated "do not touch" area of my bench.  :)


That is a good policy. Better to quit while ahead then to see it all go sideways! I follow the same policy!

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 5:44 PM

PhoenixG

 

 
Real G
Hey... that guy is watching cat videos on his monitor!!!

 

First test prints of cat videos!

kitty

Images are .145" across.  You can almost make it out with naked eye. Interesting bit of trivia.  Most printers have a resolution of 4000 dots per inch (DPI) or better. Meaning if you have good enough paper you could accurately print an entire 4k screen in 1" of paper.  Surprise 

The cat pictures above have a resolution of about 360K pixels each.  it started as a 1.4 megapixel (1600x900) image that I resized using Photoshop Elements.  It had to be reduced to 600x600 pixels in order to fit the resolution of my printer.  Hopefully the decal paper will take the ink better than plain paper.

 

Lol.  Wow, that is cool! Nice job reducing the images.

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Posted by PhoenixG on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 3:40 PM

Real G
Hey... that guy is watching cat videos on his monitor!!!

First test prints of cat videos!

kitty

Images are .145" across.  You can almost make it out with naked eye. Interesting bit of trivia.  Most printers have a resolution of 4000 dots per inch (DPI) or better. Meaning if you have good enough paper you could accurately print an entire 4k screen in 1" of paper.  Surprise 

The cat pictures above have a resolution of about 360K pixels each.  it started as a 1.4 megapixel (1600x900) image that I resized using Photoshop Elements.  It had to be reduced to 600x600 pixels in order to fit the resolution of my printer.  Hopefully the decal paper will take the ink better than plain paper.

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Posted by PhoenixG on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 3:27 PM

Bakster
Ditto. It looks good!

Thanks Bakster! 

It's been relegated to the 'do no touch' area of the bench.  I've got a bad habit of continuing to fiddle with a piece to make it better, only to watch the previous successes melt away (figuratively and literally) because I couldn't leave well enough alone.

Hence the designated "do not touch" area of my bench.  :)

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Posted by PhoenixG on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 3:21 PM

the Baron

Well done on the pilot's face, PG!  Have you painted figures before, or is this your first?

 

 
Technically I have painted figures before.  I've done a couple vaguely humanoid sci-fi miniatures.  Greater artistic license allowed when dealing with fictional creatures.  However, this was my first human face.
 
Basic techniques are the same but how you apply them and the details to be picked out are very different.  The Figures forum has been a treasure of info, and I've been going through my modeling reference books looking for methods and techniques.  I do have one advantage not found in books.  My daughter is an art major.  Smile
 
She regularly gives me advice on color theory and harmony.  She's also the one who told me I should add a subtle hint of red to the cheeks.  Apparently it's a pretty common thing artists do to make drawings/paintings of people more realisitc.  Didn't believe it till I saw the results.  Something about the transluecency of our skin that when lit reveals some of the color of the blood flowing beneath it.

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 12:05 PM

the Baron
Well done on the pilot's face, PG! 

Ditto. It looks good!

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 9:58 AM

Well done on the pilot's face, PG!  Have you painted figures before, or is this your first?

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by PhoenixG on Sunday, June 19, 2022 9:44 PM

Been conduciting lresearch on figuring painting as I wanted to improve the face.   Added some highlights to the upper half of the face.

highlighter

Snapped a shot of the palette to show how I mixed the colors.   Drug a llittle of the base flesh tone out and then mixed touches of scarlett, white, or brown to get the various hues and shades.palette

Final touch was drybrushing a little scarlet to the nose and cheeks.  Happier with the results. It's amazing how adding eyebrows change things.  Smile

rosycheeks

Needed to put him down for a moment so stuck him in silly putty that was handy. Seeing it like this made me think of Odo from DS9. :)

odo

The water based putty arrived the other week and finally got around to applying it. 

puttying

Much easier to work with than solvent based.  Priming will reveal how well it was done.

Sanding the polycaps didn't entirely solve the paint adhesion problem but worked well enough.  The joints are supposed to be a lighter shade than the body.

joints

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Posted by PhoenixG on Saturday, June 18, 2022 6:12 PM

Real G
Hey... that guy is watching cat videos on his monitor!!!

ROFL!!  The mystery of why he's grinning has been solved!  Big Smile

I'm going to do my best to make this happen!  Hmm, which still image to use.  The classic "hang in there" or perhaps kitten with a ball of yarn? 

Real G
I have a set of resin Strahl crew busts where one looks like he ate all the other guys' candy! The candy-less guy looks like he's shouting mad!

Big Smile That's some great imagery there! 

 

 

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Posted by PhoenixG on Saturday, June 18, 2022 5:57 PM

the Baron

Yeah, the expressions on some of the figures are interesting.  Especially on some of the Strahl pilot heads-they have a s**t-eatin' grin.  The grin of a side that thinks it's winning the war.  But they all paint up really well.

 

 
There were two heads to chose from in the kit.  I went with the grinning pilot because it was different from the box art and therefore didn't have an easy reference at hand.  Don't understand the reason for the grin but I like how it lightens the mood of the piece.
Interesting the Strahl tend to be cast with big grins.  If what I read was accurate the Mercenary army did a pretty darn good job of kicking their a**. At least initially.
 
I'm enjoying the 1/20th scale.  It's large enough to render more molded detail and easier to handle for painting.
 

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Posted by Real G on Friday, June 17, 2022 3:27 PM

Hey... that guy is watching cat videos on his monitor!!!  Stick out tongue

Baron, I have a set of resin Strahl crew busts where one looks like he ate all the other guys' candy!  The candy-less guy looks like he's shouting mad!

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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Posted by the Baron on Friday, June 17, 2022 1:03 PM

Yeah, the expressions on some of the figures are interesting.  Especially on some of the Strahl pilot heads-they have a s**t-eatin' grin.  The grin of a side that thinks it's winning the war.  But they all paint up really well.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, June 17, 2022 10:01 AM

 

PhoenixG
The head is still a WIP.  I find his current look a little unnerving...

PS: I think this looks awesome. Beautifully painted! 

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, June 17, 2022 9:52 AM

PhoenixG
This one is moving in fits and starts but has been great fun.

I know that feeling. I noticed in the painting section you having an AB issue. Been there, done that too!

PhoenixG
've had challenges off and on with both subscribing and or posting.  It seems pretty random.   Most recently the forum has been having fun giving me "403 Forbidden" errors when I try to post a reply. I've taken to writing aything more than a sentence in a word document because of the number of times that error wiped out my stuff.

Yeah, I do the same. I have been burned more than once when creating a long post, and the thing dumps when I hit the submit button. Ugh! Maddening. Now... I make sure to copy the entire thread into Word before hitting the one-armed bandit button--the  Submit button. Doing so saved my tail more than once. Sure wish they'd fix this site. 

PhoenixG
Keep up the great work on the Nautilus!

Thanks my friend. I hope to work on it this weekend. Life keeps getting in the way. And you too! Keep up the good work! I am following...

 

 

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Posted by PhoenixG on Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:53 PM

Thanks Bakster!

This one is moving in fits and starts but has been great fun.  Lots of learning about this line of models as well as new modeling tips and tricks.  But still working on how not to paint creepy looking heads.  Big Smile

I've had challenges off and on with both subscribing and or posting.  It seems pretty random.   Most recently the forum has been having fun giving me "403 Forbidden" errors when I try to post a reply. I've taken to writing aything more than a sentence in a word document because of the number of times that error wiped out my stuff.

Keep up the great work on the Nautilus!

 

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 16, 2022 6:50 PM

Hi Phoenix... cool project. I sure wish the subscribe feature worked. I must remember to check in on this.

Looking good!

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Posted by PhoenixG on Thursday, June 16, 2022 3:18 PM

Thanks, SplatterMan.

The base grey was airbrushed on with Vallejo Mecha Color Z Grey.  First time using that line, so far pretty happy with it.  Bought a few different bottles of Mecha Color as it was the only way to get a couple of colors I was looking for.  I recently started using Model Air and enjoy the convenience of it.  It's ready to airbrush right out of the bottle.  Though I add a few drops of Flow Improver to minimize dry tip.

Other than what I called out on the hatch, everything else was brush painted with Model Color.  I've enjoyed working with those paints.  Bakster posted a topic on brush painting in the painting forum that several members contributed really good info to.  I added a rather lengthy treatise on using Vallejo Model Color to it.  It's a great read if you're having a hard time falling asleep one night. :)

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Posted by SplatterMan on Thursday, June 16, 2022 8:58 AM

That's looking good. I like the subtle colour difference between the lid rim seals and the leather pilot padding. I agree that he looks a bit... disturbed.

I just got a few model color and model air paints to try out. I've been using tamiya acrylics with retarder to do brush painting to this point and it's less than optimal. I like the model color. I haven't tried the model air yet...

 

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Posted by PhoenixG on Wednesday, June 15, 2022 9:45 PM

Progress is happening in small steps.

Picked up some liquid mask try out and thought the hatch would be a good place to test.  It's the slightly blue glossy bits.  I outlined the sections to see if it could save me a little time when painting details.masking

Not my best paint job.  I was trying to brush with model air.  Not a good idea.  There's a reason it's called model air.  When done the mask came off easily.  Reminded me of rubber cement.

Taking into account the modeler doing the work, it turned out pretty well.

unmasked

 

Pilot tub progress.

rubadub

The head is still a WIP.  I find his current look a little unnerving...

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Posted by PhoenixG on Wednesday, June 15, 2022 9:34 PM

Gamera
Phoenix, sometimes if I'm not sure about a scheme I'll trace out one of the line drawings from the instructions and then colour it in with coloured pencil to try to get an idea of what works and what don't

 
Now there's a pro-tip if I ever saw one.  Never occurred to me to try that.  Even have a big old box of colored pencils at my bench courtesy of my daughter.  The idea was to use them for adding wear but I haven't tried that method yet.  Now they'll have two uses!
 
Gamera
I like rubber bumper paint in a spray can from the auto shop for rubber type plastic. I wash rubber style tank treads really well and then spray the bumper paint on them for a primer. Usually it works pretty well. Sometimes the paint still flakes off, I guess it's different types of the rubber plastic.
 
You know, I usually go to the auto shop for things like oil and replacement headlights.  Never occurred to me to shop there for modeling supplies, but what you said makes perfect sense. Now I have three reasons to go to the auto shop.  Which reminds me.  I do need a new headlight. The last one fell out of the car, lens and all.  Weirdest thing.   Big Smile

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, June 15, 2022 8:11 PM

Phoenix, sometimes if I'm not sure about a scheme I'll trace out one of the line drawings from the instructions and then colour it in with coloured pencil to try to get an idea of what works and what don't 

But I like what you've got. No idea how it looks in person but it looks good in the photos.

 

BTW: I like rubber bumper paint in a spray can from the auto shop for rubber type plastic. I wash rubber style tank treads really well and then spray the bumper paint on them for a primer. Usually it works pretty well. Sometimes the paint still flakes off, I guess it's different types of the rubber plastic.  

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by PhoenixG on Tuesday, June 14, 2022 8:47 PM

My being indecisive about the paint scheme has really held up this build.  Decided to do a camouflage test run on some coated cardboard that was laying around.  In the process new idea came to me.  Doing a very dark color scheme.  Thinking this would look great as a night recon rig. 

camotest

The top half background if black the bottom half is dark grey blue.  Used the same secondary colors top and bottom.  Like how the black mutes the colors so that's going to be the base for it.  Still haven't decided which of top rightmost colors would create the most interesting look.  I welcome the thoughts of the group.

In the meantime, started laying the black down on the parts I've completed.

prep

Finally, some progress!

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Posted by PhoenixG on Tuesday, June 14, 2022 8:28 PM

the Baron
use thinned white glue, too, as a sort of primer.

The primer peeled right off all the plain polycap parts.  I've lightly sanded and primed all the Polycap parts again.  It's still curing.  If that doesn't work I am definitely giving the thinned white glue a try.

I have some old guitar strings liyng somewhere.  Will dig them out for the next Ma.K. build, as well as look for fine guage wire to try out the wrapped solder.  Having options at hand is always a good thing.  That slight unwinding at then ends is good to keep in mind.

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Posted by the Baron on Monday, June 13, 2022 9:36 AM

Hi, PG!  Regarding sanding the soft plastic, no, I never bothered.  I had talked to other MaK builders before I got that far on my first build, and went right to putty for the joints, and wire for the hoses.  Though a tip I have from my youth, painting Airfix and Atlantic figures, is to use thinned white glue, too, as a sort of primer.

You're correct about guitar strings, too, some MaK builders use them.  I never had any handy, so I never tried.  The wire solder and wire technique works well enough for me.  I have used springs, too, with an old Nitto kit.  A spring over a wire core works well, but I found that fixing the ends of the sprint into the holes took a bit of extra effort. The ends of the spring tend to leave a little gap.  I found that if I unwound the spring a little bit, I could stick that straightened bit into the hole along with the wire.  That's what I do when I make the hoses with wire solder and wire.  That made it easier to get a cleaner "seam" where the hose enters the suit.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by PhoenixG on Saturday, June 11, 2022 5:10 PM

Gamera

It all looks good to me, nice work!!! Yes

 

Has me re-examining my take on the paint job.  I'd wanted a more striking contrast between the colors but the subtle shifts in color could work as well.
I'll give it a think and let you know.
 

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Posted by PhoenixG on Saturday, June 11, 2022 5:00 PM

Hi Tanker-Builder!

Please post pictures when they're done! 

I believe the most common scale in the series is 1/20th. Ma.K. is turning out to be quite fun to work on and doesn't look like it will be much larger than the 1/72 Macross kits I've done.  It's probably self-evident that I do a fair amount of Star Wars and Macross.  It's been a breath of fresh of air working on a new series. 

HLJ is going to be getting the lions share of my discretionary income in the near future. I've wishlisted several of the Ma.K. kits to continue exploring the series.  Big Smile

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Posted by PhoenixG on Saturday, June 11, 2022 4:08 PM

Thanks Baron!

I'd just primed those Polycap parts while posting about the paint test.  Adherence of the paint has been a concern.  It's been a busy week so haven't been back to the bench to check on them and see how durable the paint is.

I'd thought about running a fine grit sandpaper on the parts to see if that gives more tooth for the paint to adhere too on the polycaps.  Any experience with trying that?

the Baron
The other puttying job is for replacing the kit's joint covers. The kit parts are OK, and if you want to retain joint mobility, then they're fine. But most MaK builders replace them, most often by using a sculpting putty to cover them and then shape them to taste. I use Aves ("ay-veez") Apoxie Sculpt,

Dug into that Aves Apoxie sculpt.  Impressed that it comes in a variety of colors.  That could be handy.

For the power hoses I had heard of some people using guitar strings in similar situations, but will likely be too stiff to pose well.  Thoughts on that?  I'll probably stick with the included power hoses for this build.

the Baron
Beside those tips, another I can offer is: throw nothing away, save any odd bits of things, because you can scratchbuild and add details to these kits. That's part of the beauty of Maschinen Krieger. There is "canon", in Kow-sensei's original designs, but there is a lot of room for imagination, too.

Absolutely!  Been making note of the extra parts so they can be set aside.  Already ordered a second Raccoon with plans to try my hand at customizing.  Embarrassed

 

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Thursday, June 9, 2022 11:23 AM

Hi!

       I just started on a set out of curiosity. These things are fun. I have the window equipped one ready to paint and just a few more steps for the other. The word Melusine is the only thing on the box I understood. Plus I don't usually do to much 1/35 stuff. I understnd you can get bigger ones, But, these little scudders are to much fun to switch! Yours inspires me!

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, June 9, 2022 10:37 AM

Great build and great progress, PG!

As far as putty goes, on my MaK builds, there are two kinds of puttying jobs, and I use different putty for each.

For seams, like the seams on the leg or arm halves, on the torso-seams that are like seams on kits of other subjects-then I use a solvent-based putty, as I do on those other kinds of kits.  It used to be Squadron white (the old/original formula), but my tube eventually aged and hardened.  So I switched to Tamiya's putty.  I am also trying Perfect Plastic Putty, but I prefer Tamiya's putty for this job, at this point.

The other puttying job is for replacing the kit's joint covers.  The kit parts are OK, and if you want to retain joint mobility, then they're fine.  But most MaK builders replace them, most often by using a sculpting putty to cover them and then shape them to taste.  I use Aves ("ay-veez") Apoxie Sculpt, but there are other products which are probably as good-Miliput, Green Stuff, among others.  Apoxie Sculpt is a 2-part epoxy, with the putty and a hardener, that you mix in equal proportion. I pack that into the joints and then use a toothpick to shape the folds.

I also use Apoxie Sculpt to add weld beads. On the old Nitto kids, weld beads are sometimes molded on, but they're small and sometimes kind of faint.  With putty, I can add ones that look better.  I'll roll a small, thin "snake" of the putty, lay it down on the model where I want it, and then use a knife blade to make the "beads".

Another tip is to replace the kit's power hoses.  They're made of that soft plastic, too, and getting paint to adhere is problematic.  There are various techniques here, too.  Some guys use fine springs around a fine wire core.  In fact, the old Nitto kits provided springs and wire for this purpose.  Springs are available from makers of race car kits, like Tamiya, Fujimi, and others.

I like to use wire solder, wrapped with fine wire, to replace the power hoses.  Wire solder is soft enough to bend to various shapes, but not so soft that it can be distorted by accident.  I use fine beading wire to wrap the wire solder core.  As far as painting goes, I find that my usual Tamiya surface primer adheres well enough to the wire, to support the finish colors.  I have also used Mr Surfacer to prime the hoses, and I've used thinned white glue, too.  That had the effect of filling in the loops of wire a little more, too, which improved the look.

Beside those tips, another I can offer is: throw nothing away, save any odd bits of things, because you can scratchbuild and add details to these kits.  That's part of the beauty of Maschinen Krieger.  There is "canon", in Kow-sensei's original designs, but there is a lot of room for imagination, too.

I look forward to seeing your updates on this build!

Best regards,

Brad

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