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  • Member since
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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Wednesday, April 26, 2023 3:11 PM

Interesting side note from those "sno" tractors, they use inflated tires rather than solid ones (this is said to improve the ride).

An obsessed person might consider adding valve stems to the wheels.  But would realize that's jsut the sort of fever dream Dr Zaius and the Carrot People would inflict on a person.

Might be cool to find other 1/35 kits to pose with this one.  Whether that would be sublime or ridiculous becomes an issue, of course.

Some of the Soviet "Objekt" tanks might make an interesting counterpart. 

And, of course, neither dinosaurs nor a giant squid  would be entirely out of place in a LIS setting Smile

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, April 25, 2023 8:35 PM

Greg

Good to see you back at it, Steve! Yes

The color chariot footage was fun to watch. Project is coming along great. Someday maybe you can give me fibre optic lessons.

You asked a few posts up about warm white (too yellowish for you) or the cool white. I like the idea of warm white because even though the show is scifi set in the future, it still feels old to me, and that aims to warm white in my mind. Hard to tell how yellow the warm white actually is from pics, I suspect you'll end up with the very cool white.

Kind of makes me think of LED headlights on current steam locomotive operating models. They are nice and bright, but they still don't look right to me in that cold white.

 



Hey Greg, nice to hear from you. 

It amazes me how much we see things the same way. I was thinking the same thing about warm white, that it fits the era of the show. I was hoping someone would see it that way because that is why I wanted to go with warm to begin with. That settles it then. Warm it is.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it. It is not not an easy thing to do sometimes. I appreciate your input.

Steve

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Tuesday, April 25, 2023 9:24 AM

Good to see you back at it, Steve! Yes

The color chariot footage was fun to watch. Project is coming along great. Someday maybe you can give me fibre optic lessons.

You asked a few posts up about warm white (too yellowish for you) or the cool white. I like the idea of warm white because even though the show is scifi set in the future, it still feels old to me, and that aims to warm white in my mind. Hard to tell how yellow the warm white actually is from pics, I suspect you'll end up with the very cool white.

Kind of makes me think of LED headlights on current steam locomotive operating models. They are nice and bright, but they still don't look right to me in that cold white.

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, April 24, 2023 9:29 PM

Gamera

 

 
Bakster

 

 
Gamera

Glad to see her moving better than the gold digger. 

 

 

The orange bomb. Too bad I lost the will for it; it could have been cool.

Thanks Gamera!

 

 

 

I guess Nemo is entitled to a dub every once and awhile.... 

 

As Dr Smith would say, Indeed. Indifferent

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    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, April 24, 2023 9:20 PM

Bakster

 

 
Gamera

Glad to see her moving better than the gold digger. 

 

 

The orange bomb. Too bad I lost the will for it; it could have been cool.

Thanks Gamera!

 

I guess Nemo is entitled to a dub every once and awhile.... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, April 24, 2023 9:03 PM

Gamera

Glad to see her moving better than the gold digger. 

The orange bomb. Too bad I lost the will for it; it could have been cool.

Thanks Gamera!

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, April 24, 2023 8:49 PM

She's lookin' good Bakster! I hear you, the show did have some really cool props and gear. 

Glad to see her moving better than the gold digger. Hope the weather gets better, temputure is great down here but the pollen has been giving me a headache...  

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, April 23, 2023 2:57 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
One piece/bite at a time.

 

Good to see, by several measures.

A good kit well done can be its own reward.

 

Hey Capn, seeing your post made me smile on this dreary and cold Sunday. Yes, it remains cold in our area. It snowed a bit yesterday and I had seen flurries today. Just 260 miles north, where my cousins live, they were hit with 27 inches of snow just a few days back. No... I am not living in Alaska. Smile Its been a wild ride. 

And that is so true.  Most of the kits I build are oldies. They are worn out, and filled with pitfalls that require a lot of work bringing them up to snuff. The Nautilis was a good fitting kit, no complaints there. So that was an exception. And this kit, thus far, looking good. Of course, it is not perfect, but few are. To your point. It makes the build so much more enjoyable when I don't have to fight ill fitting parts. 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, April 23, 2023 12:48 PM

Bakster
One piece/bite at a time.

Good to see, by several measures.

A good kit well done can be its own reward.

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, April 23, 2023 9:24 AM

I forgot one thing about the rats nest and that is the terrain scanner. When the scanner is installed it adds another 7 strands of FO. Egads.

How do you eat an elephant?

One piece/bite at a time. 

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, April 22, 2023 9:44 PM

Back at it.

I started work on the headlights. The first thing I did was to see how much light came through the hole that they provide. Trying this and trying that, I decided to open them up more. I countersunk the openings some as well. It might help with the viewing angle.

I did the same to the backside. The collars are cut from Evergreen tube stock. You will see that they are used to help secure the LEDs. 

Collars are installed. The LEDs are not secured. 

You can see how the led rests. This was another reason for countersinking the back. I wanted the led to rest as far forward as possible without going too far.

I tested warm white and cool white. The jury is still out but I am leaning to cool. I'd like to go warm but they are just a bit too yellow for my taste. But maybe. Thoughts anyone?

The kit provided lenses are not installed in the above photos. If there is a weakness in all this, it might be the lens. They have mounting pins on the back side. The end result is that they defuse the light. I clipped them shorter and that helped some. I just wish they didn't put those there. The pieces are too small to remove entirely and with them being concave, I have no way to get sanding tools in there, let alone some sort of polishing stick. I am probably being picky but if there was a way to remove them, I probably would. I suppose I could try casting new ones. I will have to test this further and just maybe, I will do that, make new ones.

Below: For grins... I tried test fitting things. I needed to see how much clearance I have for the LEDs and for the optics. And by Jove, it all fits. 

 

The fit of this kit is so far, awesome. I am really pleased and I must say, this project is coming together nicely. The FOs should look very cool once done. They really pop when driven by LEDs. 

Below: A view of the rats nest. I still have to fit several light-engines and associated wiring for their LEDs. This is gonna be quite the fun. I feel confident all of it will fit in the transmission box. It will be tight though. The only thing to route out of the model and  into the base are the power wires. I should be able to conceal that, for the most part. 

That's that.

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, April 19, 2023 10:55 PM

Robot! Stand down! Forget about Smith. You are firing too close to the Chariot!

Smith can run! You know how he runs from work! 


INDEED...

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, April 19, 2023 9:19 PM

Never fear... robot is here!

 

 

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, April 19, 2023 9:14 PM

Beware the carrot man.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, April 19, 2023 9:09 PM

PhoenixG

Always fun to follow your builds and this one is no exception. 

Great tip on using the soldering iron to shape the FO as well as round the end.  What temp do you have your iron at when shaping or rounding the FO?

 

 

Hey PG, how are you doing? Are your working on any projects? 

The station is set to 250C or 482F. Actually, that is what I have been soldering at as well. To be honest... it might not matter all that much. Depending on the setting you choose... you might go shorter, or longer, depending. The main plus is the regulated heat. With an open flame the temp fluctuates wildly, and it's hard to get consistency. Using the iron, they came out perfect almost every time.

Thanks for following and chiming in!

Btw... I think my career in crime is over. My finger print is back and I can use the scanner again. Thank goodness too. Punching the code was getting to be a pain.

I think next up is fabricating the main headlights. After that, I need to get serious about buying paint. 

  • Member since
    October 2021
Posted by PhoenixG on Wednesday, April 19, 2023 11:50 AM

Always fun to follow your builds and this one is no exception. 

Great tip on using the soldering iron to shape the FO as well as round the end.  What temp do you have your iron at when shaping or rounding the FO?

 

On the Bench:

Bandai Starblazers 2202 Garmillas Zoellugut

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, April 17, 2023 10:20 PM

Addressing decals I began by removing the raised relief. To the right is removed, to the left is yet to do.

The 1:24 decal sheet scanned. Also, you can see the replacment panels I made. Both are scanned and decals will be scaled to the panels using photo editing software. This model is not quite the same as the 1:24 scale so... I will surely need to modify the graphics as well.

Replacement panels applied and I have opened more lights at the top edge of the dash. As well, FOs made, and for this image installed.

 

I made the panels using Evergreen Plastic flat stock. Amazingly, I had a size in stock that has the perfect width. All I had to do was cut them to length. Oh, that, and reduce their thickness some. Kind of a funny story. I sanded each piece by pressing my index finger against the piece as I moved it across a sanding stick. Long story short, my finger is sore. What's worse is that I sanded off my dermal ridges. Now... when I open my phone the reader can't ID my fingerprint. I must manually enter the security code.

And that is that for now.

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, April 11, 2023 8:39 PM

keavdog

Wasn't my favorite show but I liked it.  It was all about the robot.  Speaking of the robot...

http://www.b9robotbuildersclub.com/index.html

 

 

Yeah. I have seen that has become a big thing. I think there is company out there building 1:1 robots too.

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, April 11, 2023 12:39 PM

Wasn't my favorite show but I liked it.  It was all about the robot.  Speaking of the robot...

http://www.b9robotbuildersclub.com/index.html

 

Thanks,

John

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, April 10, 2023 10:35 PM

I drilled out the lights on the panel behind where the terrain scanner sits. Then shaped and installed FO for testing. Btw. I used the soldering iron method to dome the ends. It works much better than a flame. I can get much more consistent results this way.

Holding the assembly up to the light with one hand, and trying to image it using my floppy phone with my other hand. Not a great example of how it will look but it will give you a sence without my fighting to image it using a colored led. They will be driven by colored leds when I get there. Oh... and the ends need to be polished yet. As is, they are ragged from my clipping them. In that condition it distorts and reduces the light output. Not to mention the ends are not all properly aligned to the light source.

Lastly. I sure wish there was a PE set for this. I could make the dash look much better. I am sure one is coming but not just yet.

PS: I broke 4 drill bits tonight. The cobalt set I have are sharp, but they are rediculously brittle. Just a slight side pressure make them snap like a twig. If anyone has a recommendation, I would like to hear it.

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, April 9, 2023 4:06 PM

knox

Your WIP's are so much fun to follow. Thank you for taking the time to post.  

Hey Knox... you are welcome!

knox

Most of the time I'm just shaking my head and mumbling " Wow, he's good."  I need to take the time to tell you that more often.  
                   knox. 

You are too kind. I like to call it blind determination and a good amount of luck!

Thanks for following the build and for posting!

  • Member since
    February 2011
Posted by knox on Sunday, April 9, 2023 2:32 PM

Your WIP's are so much fun to follow. Thank you for taking the time to post.  
Most of the time I'm just shaking my head and mumbling " Wow, he's good."  I need to take the time to tell you that more often.  
                   knox. 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, April 9, 2023 2:16 PM

Today I added handles. The replica has handles and apparently the entire unit is designed to slide. The model provides for that option but when the time comes I will glue it into a fixed position. 



I also fabricated panels and such to help give the back of the scanner a finished look to it.

I had mentioned the instructions show a flange to it. I looked at my images of the sprues prior to cutting into them and i see no flange. Not sure what the deal with that is but, it is what it is.

Short of paint and maybe some cleanup, the scanner assembly is done. I might move onto the main headlights next.

 

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, April 8, 2023 2:29 PM

I routed the FO down through the floor and into where the transmission cover will be glued. I will hide some of the LED drivers in there.

This required drilling two holes, AND, the FO behind the panel bent into a Z shape.

This FO is stiff and it has a strong memory. So, really, they must be heated and then bent. Using a flame can work but the heat source is inconsistent and there is a high risk of melting the filament. I opted to try using my soldering iron. This worked well. Placing the optic above the solder tip and holding the optic under pressure and in the direction you want it bent, you have great control. Much less risk of melting the strands.

Notice the opening behind the housing. The directions show the piece having a flange. I don't know if I cut it off by accident or if it was not there to begin with. I must fabricate something to close up some of that light leak point. As is, the housing is elevated above the mount making for massive light leaks. I should be able to black the strands with paint and not have to fabricate much more.

And for fun I test fitted things.

 

 

 

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, April 6, 2023 9:29 PM

Gamera

That's cool Bakster! It's good to have you back! 

Good to be back, Gam. 

Gamera

To be honest though 'LiS' is one of those shows I watched a couple of episodes and it didn't catch my fancy. I did enjoy Dr. Smith but everything just bored me to tears. 

 

You are not alone in that. For me, it started good, but it went silly fast.  But lets face it. The hardware was cool and that my friend, is the motivation for the build. It is definitely not the show. The sillyness could make good fodder for discussion though. 

 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, April 6, 2023 6:53 PM

That's cool Bakster! It's good to have you back! 

To be honest though 'LiS' is one of those shows I watched a couple of episodes and it didn't catch my fancy. I did enjoy Dr. Smith but everything just bored me to tears. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, April 6, 2023 9:27 AM

keavdog

Massive improvement!

 

Thanks John. Yes

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  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Wednesday, April 5, 2023 9:25 PM

Massive improvement!

Thanks,

John

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, April 5, 2023 9:09 PM

I cleaned up some joins on the housing and I started with the fiber optic strands.

I did testing on how best to color the fiber optic. I tried many things and including clear colors paint on the optical end. I found that paint does not work all that well. For me, the light appears too blotchy. In the end, and for me, what works best is to use colored LEDs to drive the filament. Either an led works well, or colored gel film between the led and the optic works well too. For my purposes I am going with colored leds. It is a much simpler solution that requires far less fabrication.

Also... I found that rounding the filament end using a flame seems to work Ok. I am going with it.

In the image below I used a red led to light all the filaments but for the actual build I will route the strands to various colored leds.

As usual, led light is difficult to image. In person the light has much more pop. I am pleased with how they look.

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, April 1, 2023 7:30 PM

Terrain scanner

I thought the center eye was a bit soft so I replaced it with brass tubing.

I drilled out the lights and inserted fiber optic. I rounded the ends using a flame. It is TBD if I will leave it that way. I like it but experience has shown me when you round the ends it affects the light output and/or the light pattern. Some preliminary testing seems to indicate the small amount I did has minimal negative effect. I will add color from the backside. Also, the two holes at the bottom require a size of FO that I don't have in stock. I need to order some. Anyhow, the FO I have in the piece is not afixed.  It is purely for testing.

 

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