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"Enterprise" cancelled
Posted by djrost_2000 on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 6:56 PM
"Enterprise" just got the axe. Read this:

http://www.trektoday.com/

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 6:59 PM
Great news. Lets hope the stay away from the Star Trek Universe for good.

The series got worse and worse the further they moved away from the original concept.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 7:13 PM
Agreed.

Political correctness and the trend of Hollywood to take classic concepts and make them hip and modern has ruined a lot of cool ideas.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 7:35 PM
Star Trek: Enterprise...............horrible Dead [xx(]
Sorry folks, I'm a trek fan (you probably figured out) but Enterprise is just horrible. The Next Generation was the best, it had great sub-plots, thought provoking dilemmas and insights to society, not to mention great actors?). Has Star Trek gotten worse as the new series come about? Yes, but DS9 was pretty good in its earlier seasons. We need some screenwriters who understand Trek isn't about the ships and the sci-fi as much as its a forum about society.

TNG was the best Approve [^]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 7:37 PM
Don't worry I also like Star Trek, but some of the newer stories/series and characters really rub me the wrong way.
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Posted by djrost_2000 on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 7:52 PM
After Deep Space 9 I think Star Trek was just beaten to death. Meaning the producers saw a Trek market and they just started to feed us crap. I think they should have called it quits after DS9, at least for awhile.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 7:55 PM
Never really got into DS9, for me it was just another soap opera transplanted onto space station.

Voyager, IMO, had good potential but that got killed quickly.
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Posted by kaleu on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 8:10 PM
I never really could enjoy "Enterprise". I'm worn out by all the prequel stuff coming out in movies and television. IMO, it isn't necessary to know how everything in a movie/television show started out, after we've seen the end results.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 8:15 PM
Not sure what is worth a horrible prequel, an even worse sequel or a modern re-interpretation of a great movie(Rollerball, Planet of the Apes, etc). Big Smile [:D]

That's seems to be mostly what we are getting now in the cinemas.

Some stories can do with a well done prequel though.
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Posted by Foster7155 on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 8:30 PM
I'll miss it!

Although it was no where near the standards of TNG, the first few episodes of this year's season were quite good and showed promise. Of course, after last year's debacle, the series had to get better!

IMHO, both Voyager and Enterprise suffered from poor writing, but also suffered from horrendous promotion. UPN is a terrible network and Paramount should never have agreed to use them for the ST universe.

I'll continue to hope for a Star Trek series that mirrors TOS and TNG in format.

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Posted by djrost_2000 on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 8:41 PM
I think George Takei wanted to do a Trek show where he is in command of the Excelsior. I'd like to see that if it is true to TOS and the early movies.

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Posted by uilleann on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 9:09 PM
Interesting to follow the 'jargon' and terms thrown about to describe the show. "The Star Trek universe" (wasn't Gene's original idea that it was *our* universe and that we were just exploring it?) and "the Star Wars franchise" just turn me off more and more. I have to say that to this day, the original was is and in my view will likely always be the very best - buy a margin so large they should just quit trying with all the spin offs etc.

I hope the actors aren't too miffed though - it seems many of the crew weren't made aware of the cancellation right away either. Guess that's the life in Hollywood.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 9:15 PM
The way I see Gene Roddenberries "future" of our universe is actually quiet a dark future.

With space travel mostly restricted to military crafts and so on due to the ongoing hostilities with other races. The Enterprise was simply a military exploration craft trying to find new resources and similar.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 10:30 PM
I guess we can pretty much forget seeing a 1/1000 NX-01 kit from PL.
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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Thursday, February 3, 2005 3:34 AM
Well I will defend it.. As badly produced as it was by B&B.. I found it a breath of fresh air to find out how the world worked before Kirk and Picards time!.. For me, as much as I love Stewarts Picard character, i just found that TNG DS9 and Voyager had gone too well, futuristic and advanced..

Every episode seemed to be the same, and at the last minute, they would try this, or try that, and warp this energy signal, and blah, de dad, de dah.. They always got out of a situation by doing something miraculous and enginious, always at the last minute!..I was starting to feel as though there was nothing that they couldnt do, and that us humans must have been the smartest things flying around in space. Because we always saved the day!..

At least with Enterprise, they basically had thier balls in thier hands, and had to roll with the punches.. The time travel stuff was a bore.. But the rest of it was nice to see!.. I will miss it!.. To see them use a transporter work for the first time, and to have them scared of it.. Seeing Malcolms face light up when they worked out about Photon Torpedos and high energy phasers and the like.. That stuff is always cool.. TNG always had all this neat stuff.. But how did they get it?.. It didnt just appear.. So Enterprise was good like that in a way!.. So dont go bagging it.. B&B never gave it a chance.. Blame them if you dont like... I will leave with this final word.. Atleast Enterprise was new, and fresh.. I know that Star Trek has been around for 30 years. But Enterprise was covering something never done before.. On the other hand. Battlestar Galactica is a re-hash.. And in my opinion, a really bad one!.. Richard Hatch's version was always going to get my vote.. But, that doesnt really matter, as most the people watching it now, would never have seen or known about the original.. And i dont incluse us in that.. We are the minority!.. It was developed for a new audience in mind in my opinion..

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Posted by Aurora-7 on Thursday, February 3, 2005 7:41 AM
I consider my self a big Trekie (can't wait for the big 1701-A kit from Polar Lights) but I could never get into Enterprise. I To me DS9 was the best Trek that ever was. After it went off the air that was the end of the Trek era for me. Some say it was soap but I think so much of real life is anyway.

Exec Ron Moore of the new Battlestar Galactica was a writer for some of the new Treks and had said that B&B had limited the writers in the direction they could go for stories. If a Trek could be done with characters as realisticly written as the ones in the new Galactica, I'd watch that Trek. Trek just needs a fresh approach to it's story telling to make it interesting again.

 

 

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Posted by stipp on Thursday, February 3, 2005 8:06 AM
I totally agree about ds9 and voyager, I have always wondered how everything got started in the enterprise unverse, how they got the phasers and when they started to use the transporter and such it was fresh to me to see this.
I think it was stupid for them to place enterprise on a friday because of stargate and atlantis and bsg, I missed a few episodes of startrek because of that. I will miss enterprise!

QUOTE: Originally posted by AusLexusJapan

Well I will defend it.. As badly produced as it was by B&B.. I found it a breath of fresh air to find out how the world worked before Kirk and Picards time!.. For me, as much as I love Stewarts Picard character, i just found that TNG DS9 and Voyager had gone too well, futuristic and advanced..

Every episode seemed to be the same, and at the last minute, they would try this, or try that, and warp this energy signal, and blah, de dad, de dah.. They always got out of a situation by doing something miraculous and enginious, always at the last minute!..I was starting to feel as though there was nothing that they couldnt do, and that us humans must have been the smartest things flying around in space. Because we always saved the day!..

At least with Enterprise, they basically had thier balls in thier hands, and had to roll with the punches.. The time travel stuff was a bore.. But the rest of it was nice to see!.. I will miss it!.. To see them use a transporter work for the first time, and to have them scared of it.. Seeing Malcolms face light up when they worked out about Photon Torpedos and high energy phasers and the like.. That stuff is always cool.. TNG always had all this neat stuff.. But how did they get it?.. It didnt just appear.. So Enterprise was good like that in a way!.. So dont go bagging it.. B&B never gave it a chance.. Blame them if you dont like... I will leave with this final word.. Atleast Enterprise was new, and fresh.. I know that Star Trek has been around for 30 years. But Enterprise was covering something never done before.. On the other hand. Battlestar Galactica is a re-hash.. And in my opinion, a really bad one!.. Richard Hatch's version was always going to get my vote.. But, that doesnt really matter, as most the people watching it now, would never have seen or known about the original.. And i dont incluse us in that.. We are the minority!.. It was developed for a new audience in mind in my opinion..

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Posted by J-Hulk on Thursday, February 3, 2005 10:58 AM
Cancelled? Too bad. I enjoyed what I saw of it, as I've enjoyed all the Star Trek shows.
TOS and ST:TNG are my faves, though. And some of the films.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 3, 2005 12:54 PM
In my opinion, it was about time it was cancelled. I've only seen a hand full of episodes and all of them, in my opinion, were horrible... not even bad, plain horrible. For the record i'm not a huge Star Trek fan but I did enjoy many Voyager and Next Generation episodes.
Thank God for Battlestar Galactica thats on Sci-Fi channel now.. I can get my weekly dose of great science fiction.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 3, 2005 12:54 PM
I am a trek fan too.thought this was not to bad a show that would fill in a lot of history.as the klingons would say It's a good day to die.
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Posted by grandadjohn on Thursday, February 3, 2005 1:08 PM
While not a great show, it was a good show, maybe with some help and support from the studio. I will miss it. It did help fill in some of the history gaps.
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Posted by J-Hulk on Thursday, February 3, 2005 1:13 PM
Ain't it funny how even people with fairly similar interests can be so divided about something?
Oh wait...most of you guys hate Enterprise. I guess we're not divided then...

Well, I suppose another police or hospital drama would be a much much better use of UPN's budget anyway, eh? Or maybe some kind of reality show...yeah, that'd be much better than wasting money on some hack sci-fi drivel like Enterprise! Wink [;)]Wink [;)]

Sorry for the sarcasm, folks, but's that how I always feel when a science fiction show gets cancelled.


(For the benefit of those people who don't understand the concept of sarcasm, this post means I LIKED Enterprise and am sad to see it go, as I always am when an SF show gets axed. I DO NOT enjoy police, hospital, or reality shows)
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Posted by Aurora-7 on Thursday, February 3, 2005 2:19 PM
Boy, JH, talk about covering your bases!Laugh [(-D]

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 3, 2005 3:02 PM
Well, at least when they release the dvd sets it will be a small set! Wink [;)]
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Posted by paulnchamp on Thursday, February 3, 2005 6:24 PM
I'll always remember "Enterprise" as a show that had TREMENDOUS potential. We only saw a small portion of that potential tapped and brought to life. The origins of the hardware, the design of the ship, the beginning of Starfleet, the first need for the Prime Directive, we saw some of these. There's a lot more I wish we could have seen.
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Posted by topher5001 on Thursday, February 3, 2005 10:40 PM
I'll miss it too. I thought the shows were pretty good this year. Too bad it got switched to Fridays.
I also liked Archer, although he did go off the deep end a little too often.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 3, 2005 11:26 PM
you can put perfume on a turd but it still smells like crap.

CGI is getting too cheap and film makers are getting too comfortable with effects and no story. The last 2 Star Wars movies come to mind....garbage
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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Friday, February 4, 2005 12:44 AM
It was no more crap in my opinion as TNG, DS9, or Voyager were.. But we also got atleast 9 years and a few movies to get used to those shows.. I can't sit and watch an episode of TNG from its first 4 seasons.. It just gives me goosebumps.. yuk..

As above.. Enterprise had alot of potential, but was never given the chance from the start!.. There will be no more TNG movies.. So I say this cancellation will open the door for an Enterprise cast, Romulan wars movie!.. I say, bring it on!

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Posted by J-Hulk on Monday, February 7, 2005 5:44 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Aurora-7

Boy, JH, talk about covering your bases!Laugh [(-D]


Well, on this crazy thing called the Internet, I've discovered that you have to, or else somebody'll jump all over ya! Wink [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 7, 2005 11:58 AM
Sad to hear that Enterprise has been kicked into touch , good format, Pity that they don't give things to mature, it would have been a good show ref hatewall comment you should watch Big Brother on UK Channel Four now that is ****** .

we dont get much Sci-Fi on UK TV not PC at the moment. I would have liked to see how starfleet had become from it beginings to ST:Voyager we will never know
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