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Star Wars III
Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Monday, May 23, 2005 5:13 PM
I can't beleive no one started a thread devoted to Star Wars III! So what are you guys thoughts on the movie? Any new kit ideas? Please try to beconsiderate with spoilers for those who have not seen it. I loved it, not perfet of course , but compair to the last two fiascos i love it. It was good to see Anakin grow up a bit. Though I have one major complaint, and that is that i felt that the actual Vader transformation was rushed, as was a coupled other things....
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 23, 2005 5:24 PM
I'm glad to hear that people are liking it more than the first two. I didn't really care for them at all. I hope this one is better. Apparently this one has lots of good model potential. Have you guys seen the Sideshow statue of the new hand to hand bad guy? Don't click if you want a surprise in the theater (and have been living under a rock! Laugh [(-D]):

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=7126

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 23, 2005 5:41 PM
Have to agree with Larry: "lots of good modeling potential". Not only that, since its all unfortunately CGI Sad [:(] We could get ahold of the meshes (I don't know how myself really) and then have lots of good scratchbuilding potential. If you have the mesh the scratchbuild is simple IMO.
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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Monday, May 23, 2005 6:23 PM
I seriously want an ARC-170 model. That thing is COOL. Since it reminds me so much of the P-61, I'm probably gonna build one up (when they come out, of course) as a special ops , all black bird.

The movie was pretty good. I agree things seemed to rush at the end, and the "NOOOOOOOOOOO" was laughable. (heck, laughable doesn't even begin to cover it. That outright ruined the movie for me!) But overall it was a major leap over I and II.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:57 AM
I want a Boga model....

(As for the movie, I enjoyed it )
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Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:11 AM
So, if I really liked Ep I and II, (not to mention IV, V, and VI) then I'll really REALLY like this one?
Woo-hoooo!

...geez, you guys make me feel like a complete idiot becuase I actually liked the first two (I and II)! Dunce [D)]

Anyway, I still won't get to see III until July 9th, when it FINALLY opens here in Japan!

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Posted by skankr on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:26 AM
Did anyone notice the Millennium Falcon in Episode III. It was after the big opening battle. It was small, like the wideo was taken from far away. It shows it landing at a landing port on Coruscant.
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Posted by overkillphil on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:47 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by skankr

Did anyone notice the Millennium Falcon in Episode III. It was after the big opening battle. It was small, like the wideo was taken from far away. It shows it landing at a landing port on Coruscant.

Did not notice that. I remember reading reading somewhere in a semi-official source that there was a rumor going around that the Milllenium Falcon was once the covert personal transport of Palpatine. Obviously, one of those things that never panned out (like the Wookies all have Jedi powers) but still interesting, if you are into that whole alternate history/what if thing.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:35 PM
you're all full of it, vader lost his limbs in a freak lawn-mowing accident. he later lost his left ear to a disgruntled pencil sharpener.

i thought the effects were good but the acting was horrendous, the dialog was poorly written and even the actors that you know can act still tended to do a poor job for which i blame lucas' directing abilities. anakin pretty much pouts and whines the whole time, he was more mature in the first movie.

it's still a better movie than the first two though, or maybe i just haven't seen those in a while. not saying it was a waste of 146 minutes though. Smile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:08 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by goatmonkey

you're all full of it, vader lost his limbs in a freak lawn-mowing accident. he later lost his left ear to a disgruntled pencil sharpener.


Oh thank God! I can dismiss the spoiler as a rumor and enjoy the movie now! Laugh [(-D]

QUOTE: i thought the effects were good but the acting was horrendous, the dialog was poorly written and even the actors that you know can act still tended to do a poor job for which i blame lucas' directing abilities. anakin pretty much pouts and whines the whole time, he was more mature in the first movie.


That's what I've heard the Brits have been saying about the movie. The American reviewers have been kinder, but even they point out that the dialogue will make you squirm on occasion.

Hell, I'll probably see it anyway. Tongue [:P]
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Posted by dnatech on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:54 PM
-That's what I've heard the Brits have been saying about the movie. The American reviewers have been kinder, but even they point out that the dialogue will make you --squirm on occasion.


Bad Dialogue is characteristic of all the Star Wars films. There have been some good one liners along the way, but no one will ever accuse Lucas of writing good Dialogue. Over all the film was enjoyable, tied up some loose ends and some of the disconnects opened by the first 2 prequels. It added a few more disconnects, but I don't think Lucas went and looked at the Original 3 films at all before he wrote these three. I think it is worth seeing in the theaters on the large screens.

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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:20 PM
I think the guy who played Anikin was MUCH better and more mature in this picture but he was still a bit child like. Some one recomended seeing the first two movies but don't forget The Clone Wars cartoon. It fills in the gaps between the second movie and this one. Any one notice that Clone Wars explains Gen. Grievious's "condition" he seemed to have? I beleive it was because Mace Windu gave him a chronic case of the Force in Clone Wars. (I think that is vague enough not to be a spoiler.Shy [8)]) If you notice GG behaves "differently" than in the cartoon though he was still formidable.
I missed the Falcon, I'll have to keep an eye out next time I watch it there ws just so much motion going on in those previous scenes i don't see how anybody caught it!LOL
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Posted by jinithith2 on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 7:52 PM
jees.. my stupidity results in a bunch of verbal gun shots!
sorry people.. deleted my post.
I figured that when I posted, almost all of the people will know because of the many clues given in the star wars products such as books and flashmovies (there's a great Lego movie of it on www.Lego.com)
it's these things that make me want to crawl into a hole and never post again... sigh.
I bet someone's gonna say something about how much of a coward I am or how much of an idiot I am!
as I have deleted my post, Larry, you might want to delet the quote to NOT GIVE IT AWAY ANY FURTHERDead [xx(]
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Posted by 46 mech on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:41 PM
I personally liked it and can not wait to see it again. I agree that there were some things that were bad but overall..... a great movie and was not disappointed. I thought better than the first 2.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 3:55 AM
i realy liked the film and my 6 year old son realy enjoyed it (but we went to enjoy a film not to pull it apart)
the acting was ok (its the same as all the other star wars films)
its a shame they have to bring out new ships and not mix some of the older ships in (like the jedi starfighter, i preferd the Esp 2 version to the Esp 3 fighter)
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:22 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jinithith2
I bet someone's gonna say something about how much of a coward I am or how much of an idiot I am!


You're just constantly being persecuted, aren't you? Wink [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:26 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dnatech

Bad Dialogue is characteristic of all the Star Wars films. There have been some good one liners along the way, but no one will ever accuse Lucas of writing good Dialogue.


Definitely, but since the mood of the first series was basically light-hearted -- old-style derring do action movies -- it was campy good fun.

Now that the movies take themselves so seriously, the bad dialogue stops being fun and becomes truly mortifying.

There's no spark of an entertaining spirit in the recent movies -- it would get in the way of Huge Money Being Made.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 11:04 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Larry_Dunn

Originally posted by dnatech

Now that the movies take themselves so seriously, the bad dialogue stops being fun and becomes truly mortifying.

There's no spark of an entertaining spirit in the recent movies -- it would get in the way of Huge Money Being Made.


Larry, you are so right. I came out of ROT$ "merely" unhappy with the film, and the more I think about it the worse I realize this movie is. And it's not even ENTERTAINING in any way -as a tragedy, adventure, or myth - it fails on every level except for having mega-million dollar fx. It destroyed what respect I used to have for characters like ben kenobi and Yoda. I've had it with $tar War$.
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Posted by J-Hulk on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 12:34 PM
It's quite interesting how varied opinions seem to be about this film. It appears that the majority of opinions are very favorable (I'm including opinions I've read on other sites, reviews, and reports from friends back in the States who have seen it), but apparantly plenty of folks dislike Ep III along with Eps I and II, and evidently the whole SW universe in general.

No real point to this post, other than to ponder how different we all are, and how different our perspectives and opinions can be.

Well, at least we all like modelling here!
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Posted by lolok on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:47 PM
Sorry guys but I myself am waiting with bated breath for War of the Worlds. Went to see episode 3 today and agree that the first 25 minutes are the best bits of Sci Fi cinema mayhem and CGI since 2001. The less said about the acting the better. What SIR Christopher Lee was thinking I don't know. Probably thought if Sir Alec Guiness can do it so can I.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:47 PM
the acting was always not the best in star wars movies but as said above the original 3 were campy. the new 3 and especially episode 3 have acting that's downright PAINFUL.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:13 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by lolok
What SIR Christopher Lee was thinking I don't know.


He was apparently thinking, "DOOKU DOOKU DOOKU!" (Said loudly while running around flapping his arms like a bird.)

Here's a very entertaining negative review of the movie:
http://www.newyorker.com/critics/cinema/articles/050523crci_cinema
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Posted by Matthew Usher on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 3:31 PM
I saw it about a week ago, last Thursday.

I have to admit, I wasn't too impressed, and I really wanted to be.

I'm frustrated by the fact that Mr. Lucas has the technical capability to do and show literally whatever he can imagine, but so much of Episodes 1-3 hinges on senatorial debate and wooden dialog. I also tired of the countless outdoor building shots with the streams of ships flying overhead. I get it, already. And I'm pretty sure we've seen all the possible variations of the lightsaber fight.

At least as far as this year goes, I was much more surprised and impressed by "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow." Fantastic looking, really imaginative, and a whole lot more fun.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:07 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Matthew Usher

I saw it about a week ago, last Thursday.

I have to admit, I wasn't too impressed, and I really wanted to be.

I'm frustrated by the fact that Mr. Lucas has the technical capability to do and show literally whatever he can imagine, but so much of Episodes 1-3 hinges on senatorial debate and wooden dialog. I also tired of the countless outdoor building shots with the streams of ships flying overhead. I get it, already. And I'm pretty sure we've seen all the possible variations of the lightsaber fight.

At least as far as this year goes, I was much more surprised and impressed by "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow." Fantastic looking, really imaginative, and a whole lot more fun.

Matt Usher @ FSM


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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:56 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Matthew Usher

I'm frustrated by the fact that Mr. Lucas has the technical capability to do and show literally whatever he can imagine, but so much of Episodes 1-3 hinges on senatorial debate and wooden dialog.


I agree -- when I want to see a movie about political intrigue, I don't watch a Star Wars movie. Laugh [(-D] It seems like Lucas wanted to show us how he's matured into a more "serious" filmmaker, and he takes his own Star Wars universe MUCH too seriously, like these are some sort of hallowed legends. Two problems with that approach.

1) It was wrong-headed. You shouldn't root a silly plant in serious soil
2) He failed. Lucas doesn't do serious. Sorry, but characters named "Mace Windu or "count Dooku," and a small flying green person with a huge light sword, do not scream "serious drama" to me.

QUOTE: At least as far as this year goes, I was much more surprised and impressed by "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow." Fantastic looking, really imaginative, and a whole lot more fun.


Right, because it knew exactly how seriously to take itself.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 27, 2005 8:22 AM
I saw the movie last night, and I hereby proclaim it watchable. Smile [:)]

I should hasten to add, this despite the overly elaborate special effects, which are to me more of a distraction than anything else. I see FX as sugar in the coffee. (I sugar mine.) You use it to sweeten the cup. Dump a whole cup in and you ruin the beverage. And if the coffee itself isn't good, sugar ain't gonna help.

Slight spoiler:


At one point Obi Wan rides around on an riding beast. It was very well illustrated, but did anyone for an instant believe it was anything but an illustration? I feel the same way about many of the spacecraft. They are well done, but they are obviously drawn. It's too bad models are largely a thing of the past -- they exist, so they bring some sense of physical presence that CGI still largely lacks.
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Posted by Lufbery on Friday, May 27, 2005 10:28 AM
Larry,

I agree. The best special effects I've seen, with one or too exceptions, are done with models. One very good exception are the F/A-18s in "Independence Day." For some reason, they had me convinced. I think it was, in part, because the planes didn't look brand new.

That brings me to another problem with the three new Star Wars movies: they're too clean! The "sets" are too clean, the ships are too clean, and the whole thing looks too neat and perfect. One of the most brilliant aspects of the first three films was how "lived in" the scenes looked. There was dirt and clutter in places.

Oh well, despite that, and some odd plot holes, I thought the third movie was enjoyable. I actually liked the first one (except for Jar Jar), and was disappointed in the second one.

Regards,

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Posted by stipp on Friday, May 27, 2005 5:27 PM
I saw the movie and I thought it was great! I for one saw the OT in 77 and it was great! It was great in its day and this was great in its day , sure the fx was cool, the story was so, so, the acting was so,so, but I`d see it again! its just for fun and its just fantasy anything is possible in thestar wars universe, let it be and dont over analize it to death its just a movie, true the ships coulda been real models, and that would mean models for us but this is the way Lucas wanted to make the movie and its his movie, i kinda wish the clone troopers were real instead of cg then they would make some clone trooper uniforms which would be cool too, this is just my opinion thats all.
The ships and stuff were clean due to the age and time it took place, the republic is at its peak of exsistance where everything is plentiful in episodes 1,2,3, during the imperial occupation supplies and everyday products are scare and everyone is poor and everything is scavanged for parts in episodes 4,5,6
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Posted by modelnut on Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:14 PM
I agree with the nay-sayers.

Though I am glad I saw it. I am really glad I saw it for matinee price.
Won't be buying this on DVD. Did not buy Eps I or II either.
I will be happy with the originals even though George ruined several scenes before he put it on DVD! - HAN SHO FIRST!

If anyone is interested in why these prequels tanked:
http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/2002/04/10/lucas/print.html

Where was Irvin Kirshner when we really needed him?
Lucas should stick to being an idea man and a toymmaker.
Leave the scriptwriting and directing to professionals.

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Posted by philp on Sunday, May 29, 2005 1:02 AM
I saw it and enjoyed it. Cleaned up some of the loose ends and left others open.
I did notice the Falcon.
I will be seeing it a few more times if for nothing more than trying to figure what is going on in the initial battle. I had a hard time picking out which ships were the good guys and which were the bad guys (except for the ring ships).
The ARC is my favorite and I was disappointed that it doesn't do much in the film (unless I missed something). Still need to get my hands on one of those kits.
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