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Posted by Anonymous
on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 11:04 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Larry_Dunn
Originally posted by dnatech
Now that the movies take themselves so seriously, the bad dialogue stops being fun and becomes truly mortifying.
There's no spark of an entertaining spirit in the recent movies -- it would get in the way of Huge Money Being Made.
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Larry, you are so right. I came out of ROT$ "merely" unhappy with the film, and the more I think about it the worse I realize this movie is. And it's not even ENTERTAINING in any way -as a tragedy, adventure, or myth - it fails on every level except for having mega-million dollar fx. It destroyed what respect I used to have for characters like ben kenobi and Yoda. I've had it with $tar War$.
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Posted by J-Hulk
on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 12:34 PM
It's quite interesting how varied opinions seem to be about this film. It appears that the majority of opinions are very favorable (I'm including opinions I've read on other sites, reviews, and reports from friends back in the States who have seen it), but apparantly plenty of folks dislike Ep III along with Eps I and II, and evidently the whole SW universe in general.
No real point to this post, other than to ponder how different we all are, and how different our perspectives and opinions can be.
Well, at least we all like modelling here!
~Brian
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Posted by lolok
on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:47 PM
Sorry guys but I myself am waiting with bated breath for War of the Worlds. Went to see episode 3 today and agree that the first 25 minutes are the best bits of Sci Fi cinema mayhem and CGI since 2001. The less said about the acting the better. What SIR Christopher Lee was thinking I don't know. Probably thought if Sir Alec Guiness can do it so can I.
Jim Ryan
Ex-Pat Limey in warsaw.Poland.
" MENE,MENE,TEKEL U PHARSIN"
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Posted by Anonymous
on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:47 PM
the acting was always not the best in star wars movies but as said above the original 3 were campy. the new 3 and especially episode 3 have acting that's downright PAINFUL.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:13 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by lolok
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He was apparently thinking, "DOOKU DOOKU DOOKU!" (Said loudly while running around flapping his arms like a bird.)
Here's a very entertaining negative review of the movie:
http://www.newyorker.com/critics/cinema/articles/050523crci_cinema
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I saw it about a week ago, last Thursday.
I have to admit, I wasn't too impressed, and I really wanted to be.
I'm frustrated by the fact that Mr. Lucas has the technical capability to do and show literally whatever he can imagine, but so much of Episodes 1-3 hinges on senatorial debate and wooden dialog. I also tired of the countless outdoor building shots with the streams of ships flying overhead. I get it, already. And I'm pretty sure we've seen all the possible variations of the lightsaber fight.
At least as far as this year goes, I was much more surprised and impressed by "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow." Fantastic looking, really imaginative, and a whole lot more fun.
Matt Usher @ FSM
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Posted by Anonymous
on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:07 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Matthew Usher
I saw it about a week ago, last Thursday.
I have to admit, I wasn't too impressed, and I really wanted to be.
I'm frustrated by the fact that Mr. Lucas has the technical capability to do and show literally whatever he can imagine, but so much of Episodes 1-3 hinges on senatorial debate and wooden dialog. I also tired of the countless outdoor building shots with the streams of ships flying overhead. I get it, already. And I'm pretty sure we've seen all the possible variations of the lightsaber fight.
At least as far as this year goes, I was much more surprised and impressed by "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow." Fantastic looking, really imaginative, and a whole lot more fun.
Matt Usher @ FSM
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I really think Polly Perkins would've kicked Amadala's arse.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:56 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Matthew Usher
I'm frustrated by the fact that Mr. Lucas has the technical capability to do and show literally whatever he can imagine, but so much of Episodes 1-3 hinges on senatorial debate and wooden dialog. |
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I agree -- when I want to see a movie about political intrigue, I don't watch a Star Wars movie. It seems like Lucas wanted to show us how he's matured into a more "serious" filmmaker, and he takes his own Star Wars universe MUCH too seriously, like these are some sort of hallowed legends. Two problems with that approach.
1) It was wrong-headed. You shouldn't root a silly plant in serious soil
2) He failed. Lucas doesn't do serious. Sorry, but characters named "Mace Windu or "count Dooku," and a small flying green person with a huge light sword, do not scream "serious drama" to me.
QUOTE: At least as far as this year goes, I was much more surprised and impressed by "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow." Fantastic looking, really imaginative, and a whole lot more fun.
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Right, because it knew exactly how seriously to take itself.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Friday, May 27, 2005 8:22 AM
I saw the movie last night, and I hereby proclaim it watchable.
I should hasten to add, this despite the overly elaborate special effects, which are to me more of a distraction than anything else. I see FX as sugar in the coffee. (I sugar mine.) You use it to sweeten the cup. Dump a whole cup in and you ruin the beverage. And if the coffee itself isn't good, sugar ain't gonna help.
Slight spoiler:
At one point Obi Wan rides around on an riding beast. It was very well illustrated, but did anyone for an instant believe it was anything but an illustration? I feel the same way about many of the spacecraft. They are well done, but they are obviously drawn. It's too bad models are largely a thing of the past -- they exist, so they bring some sense of physical presence that CGI still largely lacks.
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Posted by Lufbery
on Friday, May 27, 2005 10:28 AM
Larry,
I agree. The best special effects I've seen, with one or too exceptions, are done with models. One very good exception are the F/A-18s in "Independence Day." For some reason, they had me convinced. I think it was, in part, because the planes didn't look brand new.
That brings me to another problem with the three new Star Wars movies: they're too clean! The "sets" are too clean, the ships are too clean, and the whole thing looks too neat and perfect. One of the most brilliant aspects of the first three films was how "lived in" the scenes looked. There was dirt and clutter in places.
Oh well, despite that, and some odd plot holes, I thought the third movie was enjoyable. I actually liked the first one (except for Jar Jar), and was disappointed in the second one.
Regards,
-Drew
Build what you like; like what you build.
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Posted by stipp
on Friday, May 27, 2005 5:27 PM
I saw the movie and I thought it was great! I for one saw the OT in 77 and it was great! It was great in its day and this was great in its day , sure the fx was cool, the story was so, so, the acting was so,so, but I`d see it again! its just for fun and its just fantasy anything is possible in thestar wars universe, let it be and dont over analize it to death its just a movie, true the ships coulda been real models, and that would mean models for us but this is the way Lucas wanted to make the movie and its his movie, i kinda wish the clone troopers were real instead of cg then they would make some clone trooper uniforms which would be cool too, this is just my opinion thats all.
The ships and stuff were clean due to the age and time it took place, the republic is at its peak of exsistance where everything is plentiful in episodes 1,2,3, during the imperial occupation supplies and everyday products are scare and everyone is poor and everything is scavanged for parts in episodes 4,5,6
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Posted by modelnut
on Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:14 PM
I agree with the nay-sayers.
Though I am glad I saw it. I am really glad I saw it for matinee price.
Won't be buying this on DVD. Did not buy Eps I or II either.
I will be happy with the originals even though George ruined several scenes before he put it on DVD! - HAN SHO FIRST!
If anyone is interested in why these prequels tanked:
http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/2002/04/10/lucas/print.html
Where was Irvin Kirshner when we really needed him?
Lucas should stick to being an idea man and a toymmaker.
Leave the scriptwriting and directing to professionals.
-Leelan
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Posted by philp
on Sunday, May 29, 2005 1:02 AM
I saw it and enjoyed it. Cleaned up some of the loose ends and left others open.
I did notice the Falcon.
I will be seeing it a few more times if for nothing more than trying to figure what is going on in the initial battle. I had a hard time picking out which ships were the good guys and which were the bad guys (except for the ring ships).
The ARC is my favorite and I was disappointed that it doesn't do much in the film (unless I missed something). Still need to get my hands on one of those kits.
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