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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 4, 2005 4:03 PM
Originally posted by madmike

I am tending to ignore the 2nd trilogy now, focusing more on the original 3 movies and reading the books based after the Return of the Jedi (X-wing series etc). This is how I visualise Star Wars. Not stupid android armies fighting clones.

I will see Ep3 simply because I have seen the other 5 on the big screen (I saw SW in 1978).

...couldn't agree more
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Posted by madmike on Saturday, June 4, 2005 2:41 AM
I am tending to ignore the 2nd trilogy now, focusing more on the original 3 movies and reading the books based after the Return of the Jedi (X-wing series etc). This is how I visualise Star Wars. Not stupid android armies fighting clones.

I will see Ep3 simply because I have seen the other 5 on the big screen (I saw SW in 1978).

cheers

Mike

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Posted by joewhite on Friday, June 3, 2005 11:37 PM
I also agree. I fell in love with Star Wars back then as a kid because of the ships. Nothing else. However, I do have a few major gripes about the two trilogies (no, not Jar-Jar, lack of ultra-sounds or because "this would have looked cooler). I don't want to sound like I am complaining for petty reasons. I am just looking at it from the angle of a storyteller...something I think Lucas should think about before blabbing about how a good story should be told. In no way am I saying that I am perfect.....I'm just pointing out that what he states and what he does are not always the same.

Here they are in order of priority.

Not even in Lord of the Rings have I seen better character development than Han Solo (pre-Special Editions). Here you have a pirate thug, tougher than nails and doesn't take crap from anyone! He always has something sarcastic to say and only thinks about himself. But he surprises everyone by coming back to cover the hero's back and helps save the day. Next you see that he's still struggling with getting back to his affairs but he seems to be developing feelings for someone. Then he dies! Or so it seems. He is then revived, ready to join his buddies now that his old debt is "paid off". He falls in love and helps save the galaxy. Do you see how he went from one side of the spectrum to the complete opposite? Well get this....it happened in the course of three whole movies!!!! Storytelling at it's best!!!! But wait....all this hard work becomes obsolete because of one action. Greedo shooting first. And why? To show that he Han wasn't really a mean guy and was only shooting in self-defense. The death of not only poor Greedo, but the heart and soul behind one of the coolest characters ever!

Next is the Clone Wars. The fact that the Republic is up against a endless robot army is weak. I feel that living humans and aliens should have made up a larger percentage of the fatalities instead of just Jedi's. As bad as that may sound, I just feel that without a sense of sacrifice on a larger scale (galaxy scale!), the war just seems without cause. Same for the clone army. Granted it is called the Clone Wars...but at least make them look different by ways of several cloning volunteers to make it feel more dramatic, or just dramatic to begin with. Which leads to the third complaint....

The Fetts! How horrible is it to ruin a successful character (background, no less) for the sake of squeezing every penny out of it's popularity! Boba worked because he was mysterious. We didn't have to know everything about him to appreciate him. And that's awesome storytelling! And now for no reason you have Boba and twin Daddy behind the biggest event in the galaxy.....which brings up....

Coincidence. There are way too many closely related events that either don't make sense or are not important at all. For instance, the creation of C-3P0, my biggest pet peeve! How on Earth could you do that to this character, as well as Vader? And then to blame it on a mere memory swipe that he didn't remember anything from the past. What a shame. It seems like someone just ran out of ideas in the midst of worrying about whether CG could make the desert sand seem more grainy. More time could have been spent answering questions like how some Jedi can take the form of ghosts or how the recruitment of regular non-clone humans (such as Tarkin) into the Republic army came about.
Other mentionable pointless, or senseless, coincidences are Chewbacca being in ROTS, the above Boba Clones and the almost Greedo/Anakin scuffle.

I wouldn't mind if just the Prequels sucked in any way but the events I mentioned are, in my opinion, the sole reasons that ruined the feeling of the entire saga. I still very much love Star Wars, regardless. However, I just wish more care had been taking with certain issues instead of being stubborn just because "it is your baby after all". My impression of independent film makers was that they made films to please the audience rather than have corporate big-wigs make decisions that take away from the story. Well, we are that audience that you pleased so long ago, Lucas!!!! I guess your memory was the one erased.

Sorry so long! I know this doesn't really have much to to with the topic of the thread but I just thought I would pour my heart out somewhere. As far as Epi III goes, I really enjoyed it save for Vader's tantrum at the end. Smile [:)]


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Posted by zokissima on Friday, June 3, 2005 6:08 AM
It's not the best movie I've seen, it's not the worst movie I've seen.
QUOTE: i felt that the actual Vader transformation was rushed, as was a coupled other things....

I completely agree.
The whole movie was a visual experience. It's all very interesting, epic, and trully global in size and scope, which is what SW should be. It paints a very vivid picture, one that is a lot of fun to look at. However, that's it. The story is questionable, the acting is just non-existent, lest someone try to pass off the melodramatic dialogue as "acting", and there were quite a few inconsistencies. I've talked to a few people that have had direct dealings with George Lucas, and the general consensus is that he's kind of a pain in the @$$ and clearly not much of a writer. He definitely has the imagination, but it's clear to see that it reallY IS imagination, and not talent, that is responsible for the SW universe. Be that as it may, it's still a good movie to see, as it's two hours of brain-fart entertainment. Not worth full admission price, but I saw it matinee, so it's all good Smile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 3, 2005 5:45 AM
BLA BLA BLAAAA DEEDDEE BLAAAA.

Come on. This movie and all the Star Wars movies are for the real Star Wars fans. I LOVED IT. Not to mention I loved all the other ones as well. I dont really care about acting quality, if I did I would go see a movie with my WIFE. I went to see STAR WARS, a sci-fi movie about jedi...So what do you want real life...COME ON. This is a movie, an escape from the real world. The million dollar special effects are the reason I love it so much. Like I said if wanted a real life movie with great acting I'll let my wife pick the movie.
.......It's all about the TRUE FANS......Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow] To STAR WARS.....

P.S. I'm not crazy, but you are...Wink [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 3, 2005 1:41 AM
I enjoyed the entertainment. Oh, wait I said it was entertainment! The agony! The pain!

Yup, just a movie and I enjoyed every moment of it, even the end. Yes, Vader is seriously boned for the little girly "nooooooooo" where there should have been quiet smoldering rage. Oh well, it's Lucas's baby and without him there never would have been Episodes 1-3.

I throughly enjoyed the actor's renditions of Senator Palpatine and Obi-Wan Kenobi. I thought they made up for Anakin's less than stellar acting, but you gotta admit, Anakin's awesome with a lightsaber! R2-D2 was enjoyable as well, and had me chuckling at his spunky, fighting attitude. I enjoyed this movie and WILL be purchasing on DVD the first day it's available!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 2, 2005 9:46 PM
I think most people miss the point with these movies, and that is they are written for young teenagers and the dialogue and characters are aimed at them. I guess that's why the movies were so good as a ten year old. Now I'm 38 the dialogue seems a tad hokey.
If you read the book you realise the movie has actually simplified the conversations between characters in favour of getting into the action (which is what the kids want) The best way to enjoy these movies is to disengage your brain and enjoy the ride. If you want deep, watch a chick flick.
As to the rest of the movieit was visually stunning and only further enriched the Star Wars universe, which has always been a Sci Fi modelers meca.
I can't wait to get my hands on the models already on offer. I only wish there was more.
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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Thursday, June 2, 2005 5:18 PM
Yeah Lucas does have an obsession with overly long chase scenes: i.e. pod race in Ep 1, and the chase between Greivous and Obewan in Ep 3. Can't think of one in Ep. 2 aside from Obwan chasing Jango through the asteriod field (but I actually liked that one!lol).

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Posted by scottrc on Wednesday, June 1, 2005 10:20 AM
I read back way back when and understood that Anikan DID make his life support suit and system. I hated these last three movies. WHY? Because that was all they were, just a bunch of gee whiz special effects followed by some bad acting by high profile, overpaid, actors. Nothing gave the chemistry that the old movies had. There was not flow to the storyline, and there was too many suspensful moments followed by long chase scenes.

Was this Star Wars, or some b-rated late night special on the Sci Fi channel.

I saw nothing different that made me want to fork out $20 bucks again.

I went home, popped some popcorn, opened a beer, and watch episode IV, followed by another trilogy classic; Spaceballs.

Scott

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Posted by stipp on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 5:15 PM
I felt exactly as you do Anakin shouldve made his own suit! The movie just moved along at a decnt pace, and then it just shot out of a cannon and the movie was over.Sad [:(]
QUOTE: Originally posted by MartianGundamModeler

Warning! In case you have been in a cave the past two weeks this post Spoilers!LOL











I do agree with Themage in that the end of the movie didn't "fit right". i would have ATLEASt expected Vader to be submerged in a nutrient bath or something, the guy was toasted. Instead they just attach some prosthetic limbs and stick him in the suit. What did Palpatine already have a "Vader Suit" ready. it would have been more beleivable if Anakin had worn an "intermediate" vader out fit and then transitioned his usual Vader attire. What would have been even more interesting was if after donning what ever life support system the medics and/or engineers cobbled we then see Ana kin design and construct his own armor/life suppot system. We already have seen that Anakin had a gift for building machines, they spent most of the first movie driving that home to us. ..
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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 5:01 PM
Warning! In case you have been in a cave the past two weeks this post Spoilers!LOL











I do agree with Themage in that the end of the movie didn't "fit right". i would have ATLEASt expected Vader to be submerged in a nutrient bath or something, the guy was toasted. Instead they just attach some prosthetic limbs and stick him in the suit. What did Palpatine already have a "Vader Suit" ready. it would have been more beleivable if Anakin had worn an "intermediate" vader out fit and then transitioned his usual Vader attire. What would have been even more interesting was if after donning what ever life support system the medics and/or engineers cobbled we then see Ana kin design and construct his own armor/life suppot system. We already have seen that Anakin had a gift for building machines, they spent most of the first movie driving that home to us. ..
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 30, 2005 11:08 PM
I have seen the 3rd movie now 2 times. I really enjoy it, has some really good points. I think the acting is really great. I think the reviewers are always hard on sci-fi because they cant think that wide open. One thing that i would like to point out is how the star wars saga is almost a mirror image of whats going on in the real world. With bush attacking for oil and elections rigged its almost hard to watch the movie seeing how that is really going on. And in how history just keeps repeating it self. I know i will get backlash from this but check it out for your self. The special effects ( while i did not see it in a digital screen) do look pretty good but wish they used models instead of CGI even thow i am a 3d modeler.

There is some inconsistent things in terms of shots that they dont do in the other movies which i found old. And some bad cuts with c3po and the queen. They could of zoomed back alot too. I dont like how all movies follow the same types of charactics even if the movie is so called independent. The opening scene felt like a different movie. Overall this movie is great i still perfer the orginal movies.

The ending scenes of the movie dont fit together right at all. This does not feel like lucas work. Mabye they used a different editor or something. The last shot should of been them on the tantivie 4 which is the opening scene of the 4th movie. But that might not give the idea that time has passed.
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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Monday, May 30, 2005 12:03 AM
Well I have just finished watching it here at home.. I watched first last night, and then I watched it again this morning.. I have to say on a whole. I was very very dissapointed..

Firstly, Even with the extra FX that Lucas put in the original trilogy to spark it up a bit. I always found the original series to be more realistic and grounded (if that is posible for a sci fi drama).. I also understand that in 1977 they simply didnt have the technology to do any more.. So in saying that, I have just found that the 3 prequals have dumbed down the whole Star Wars methos with too much of the over the top and comical special FX..

When i think back to that space battle scene in EpVI ROTJ.. I think to myslef "man this is so cool, it is almost believable!" When I was watching Episode III, all I kept thinking for the first 10 minutes was, way over the top. Too busy, and although cool to look at. Whats the point.. Nice ships. But I simply never got why there were a million of them on top of one planet going head to head.. No navy in the world would fight a war like that. SO why should I believe this one? Then we get to the droid fighters!.. They are believable in Battlestar Galactica.. But when these ones are flying around making Jawa sounds, then I am sorry.. Vulture Droids?? Buzz Droids?? WTF? This movie was going great from the opening credits, and then you see the camera pan down to the Star Destroyer.. It lost me as soon as I started watching what was in front of me....

From there on, I started wondering if I was watching a comedy.. Although R2 was cool. It again dumbed down the R2D2 from the original series.. Maybe the R2 in the old movies is too old and cant move like he used to? I dont know..

The Anikan Padme saga is so unbelievable, I thought maybe I could have had a shot at her with this guy being such a dick.. I really couldnt see any chemistry, let alone what she saw in that wally?.. Again, The Padme role was dumbed down from the Episode 1 where she is this tough talking Queen that can kick ass, to this bumbbling fool that listens to that tool Skywalker.. Simply was never gonna happen....

Then we move on to the whole Jedi thing.. For a bunch of smart guys. It took them long enough to work out who the Sith Lord was?.. Even I get bad feelings about people. And I dont have the force flowing through me.. They also knew that there was something not right with Anikan, but they still allowed him to be apart of thier establishment.. I know, I know, its just a movie, but hey!

As for the Emperer. What I liked about him in the original movies is that we knew of him. But we knew nothing about him.. Only at the end do we actually see him.. In these movies I found the guy to be a little more personable, and watching Ian McDermaid (however you spell it) be Palpatine one minute, and then the Emperer the other.. Reminded me of Willem Defoe talking into a mirror in Spiderman???

The Obi-Wan , Anikan fight.. Too long... The most anticipated fight in all of cinema history, and they go lava surfing??.. Ending was how I imagined it.. The choking Padme wasnt, and the lava surfing.. But the Emperer putting him back together at the time of the twins birth was fine.. As someone stated earlier.. The whole Darth Vader hissy fit was comedy at its best. And Now I will never see my favourite villain in the same eyes again.. Thank you George. You just destroyed Darth Vader for me!!!.. He should have just gone down and one knee, and sucked it up!!!!!

The ending was wonderfull.. The final scene with the music from the original Star Wars and Uncle Owen standing as Luke does 18 years later was a great tribute and lead in to the next film....

I had fun with this movie.. But I waited so long for it.. Darth Vader's story is what I have supported all along.. But I am dissapointed.. Although I enjoyed parts of the prequals.. I think I would prefer to remember Star Wars as the original series..

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Posted by SteelSnail on Sunday, May 29, 2005 2:59 PM
I was so dissappointed with ep. I that ep. II seemed just ok and I actually enjoyed ep. III.
I think the trick is to expect a bad movie and you'll notice the few good parts and dismiss the bad ones. I even liked some of the lines of Obi-Wan. Oh, and remember that, in general, sci-fi movies aren't famous for great acting performances.
I may even wath, oneday, all six movies straight.
Little spoiler:
I liked the camo uniforms of the clones.
I also agree with Larry_Dunn and Lufbery about some of the fx in the movie.
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Posted by philp on Sunday, May 29, 2005 1:02 AM
I saw it and enjoyed it. Cleaned up some of the loose ends and left others open.
I did notice the Falcon.
I will be seeing it a few more times if for nothing more than trying to figure what is going on in the initial battle. I had a hard time picking out which ships were the good guys and which were the bad guys (except for the ring ships).
The ARC is my favorite and I was disappointed that it doesn't do much in the film (unless I missed something). Still need to get my hands on one of those kits.
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Posted by modelnut on Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:14 PM
I agree with the nay-sayers.

Though I am glad I saw it. I am really glad I saw it for matinee price.
Won't be buying this on DVD. Did not buy Eps I or II either.
I will be happy with the originals even though George ruined several scenes before he put it on DVD! - HAN SHO FIRST!

If anyone is interested in why these prequels tanked:
http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/2002/04/10/lucas/print.html

Where was Irvin Kirshner when we really needed him?
Lucas should stick to being an idea man and a toymmaker.
Leave the scriptwriting and directing to professionals.

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Posted by stipp on Friday, May 27, 2005 5:27 PM
I saw the movie and I thought it was great! I for one saw the OT in 77 and it was great! It was great in its day and this was great in its day , sure the fx was cool, the story was so, so, the acting was so,so, but I`d see it again! its just for fun and its just fantasy anything is possible in thestar wars universe, let it be and dont over analize it to death its just a movie, true the ships coulda been real models, and that would mean models for us but this is the way Lucas wanted to make the movie and its his movie, i kinda wish the clone troopers were real instead of cg then they would make some clone trooper uniforms which would be cool too, this is just my opinion thats all.
The ships and stuff were clean due to the age and time it took place, the republic is at its peak of exsistance where everything is plentiful in episodes 1,2,3, during the imperial occupation supplies and everyday products are scare and everyone is poor and everything is scavanged for parts in episodes 4,5,6
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Posted by Lufbery on Friday, May 27, 2005 10:28 AM
Larry,

I agree. The best special effects I've seen, with one or too exceptions, are done with models. One very good exception are the F/A-18s in "Independence Day." For some reason, they had me convinced. I think it was, in part, because the planes didn't look brand new.

That brings me to another problem with the three new Star Wars movies: they're too clean! The "sets" are too clean, the ships are too clean, and the whole thing looks too neat and perfect. One of the most brilliant aspects of the first three films was how "lived in" the scenes looked. There was dirt and clutter in places.

Oh well, despite that, and some odd plot holes, I thought the third movie was enjoyable. I actually liked the first one (except for Jar Jar), and was disappointed in the second one.

Regards,

-Drew

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 27, 2005 8:22 AM
I saw the movie last night, and I hereby proclaim it watchable. Smile [:)]

I should hasten to add, this despite the overly elaborate special effects, which are to me more of a distraction than anything else. I see FX as sugar in the coffee. (I sugar mine.) You use it to sweeten the cup. Dump a whole cup in and you ruin the beverage. And if the coffee itself isn't good, sugar ain't gonna help.

Slight spoiler:


At one point Obi Wan rides around on an riding beast. It was very well illustrated, but did anyone for an instant believe it was anything but an illustration? I feel the same way about many of the spacecraft. They are well done, but they are obviously drawn. It's too bad models are largely a thing of the past -- they exist, so they bring some sense of physical presence that CGI still largely lacks.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:56 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Matthew Usher

I'm frustrated by the fact that Mr. Lucas has the technical capability to do and show literally whatever he can imagine, but so much of Episodes 1-3 hinges on senatorial debate and wooden dialog.


I agree -- when I want to see a movie about political intrigue, I don't watch a Star Wars movie. Laugh [(-D] It seems like Lucas wanted to show us how he's matured into a more "serious" filmmaker, and he takes his own Star Wars universe MUCH too seriously, like these are some sort of hallowed legends. Two problems with that approach.

1) It was wrong-headed. You shouldn't root a silly plant in serious soil
2) He failed. Lucas doesn't do serious. Sorry, but characters named "Mace Windu or "count Dooku," and a small flying green person with a huge light sword, do not scream "serious drama" to me.

QUOTE: At least as far as this year goes, I was much more surprised and impressed by "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow." Fantastic looking, really imaginative, and a whole lot more fun.


Right, because it knew exactly how seriously to take itself.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:07 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Matthew Usher

I saw it about a week ago, last Thursday.

I have to admit, I wasn't too impressed, and I really wanted to be.

I'm frustrated by the fact that Mr. Lucas has the technical capability to do and show literally whatever he can imagine, but so much of Episodes 1-3 hinges on senatorial debate and wooden dialog. I also tired of the countless outdoor building shots with the streams of ships flying overhead. I get it, already. And I'm pretty sure we've seen all the possible variations of the lightsaber fight.

At least as far as this year goes, I was much more surprised and impressed by "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow." Fantastic looking, really imaginative, and a whole lot more fun.

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Posted by Matthew Usher on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 3:31 PM
I saw it about a week ago, last Thursday.

I have to admit, I wasn't too impressed, and I really wanted to be.

I'm frustrated by the fact that Mr. Lucas has the technical capability to do and show literally whatever he can imagine, but so much of Episodes 1-3 hinges on senatorial debate and wooden dialog. I also tired of the countless outdoor building shots with the streams of ships flying overhead. I get it, already. And I'm pretty sure we've seen all the possible variations of the lightsaber fight.

At least as far as this year goes, I was much more surprised and impressed by "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow." Fantastic looking, really imaginative, and a whole lot more fun.

Matt Usher @ FSM
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:13 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by lolok
What SIR Christopher Lee was thinking I don't know.


He was apparently thinking, "DOOKU DOOKU DOOKU!" (Said loudly while running around flapping his arms like a bird.)

Here's a very entertaining negative review of the movie:
http://www.newyorker.com/critics/cinema/articles/050523crci_cinema
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:47 PM
the acting was always not the best in star wars movies but as said above the original 3 were campy. the new 3 and especially episode 3 have acting that's downright PAINFUL.
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Posted by lolok on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:47 PM
Sorry guys but I myself am waiting with bated breath for War of the Worlds. Went to see episode 3 today and agree that the first 25 minutes are the best bits of Sci Fi cinema mayhem and CGI since 2001. The less said about the acting the better. What SIR Christopher Lee was thinking I don't know. Probably thought if Sir Alec Guiness can do it so can I.
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Posted by J-Hulk on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 12:34 PM
It's quite interesting how varied opinions seem to be about this film. It appears that the majority of opinions are very favorable (I'm including opinions I've read on other sites, reviews, and reports from friends back in the States who have seen it), but apparantly plenty of folks dislike Ep III along with Eps I and II, and evidently the whole SW universe in general.

No real point to this post, other than to ponder how different we all are, and how different our perspectives and opinions can be.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 11:04 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Larry_Dunn

Originally posted by dnatech

Now that the movies take themselves so seriously, the bad dialogue stops being fun and becomes truly mortifying.

There's no spark of an entertaining spirit in the recent movies -- it would get in the way of Huge Money Being Made.


Larry, you are so right. I came out of ROT$ "merely" unhappy with the film, and the more I think about it the worse I realize this movie is. And it's not even ENTERTAINING in any way -as a tragedy, adventure, or myth - it fails on every level except for having mega-million dollar fx. It destroyed what respect I used to have for characters like ben kenobi and Yoda. I've had it with $tar War$.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:26 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dnatech

Bad Dialogue is characteristic of all the Star Wars films. There have been some good one liners along the way, but no one will ever accuse Lucas of writing good Dialogue.


Definitely, but since the mood of the first series was basically light-hearted -- old-style derring do action movies -- it was campy good fun.

Now that the movies take themselves so seriously, the bad dialogue stops being fun and becomes truly mortifying.

There's no spark of an entertaining spirit in the recent movies -- it would get in the way of Huge Money Being Made.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:22 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jinithith2
I bet someone's gonna say something about how much of a coward I am or how much of an idiot I am!


You're just constantly being persecuted, aren't you? Wink [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 3:55 AM
i realy liked the film and my 6 year old son realy enjoyed it (but we went to enjoy a film not to pull it apart)
the acting was ok (its the same as all the other star wars films)
its a shame they have to bring out new ships and not mix some of the older ships in (like the jedi starfighter, i preferd the Esp 2 version to the Esp 3 fighter)
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