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Group Build "Star Trek Free For All" Early 2006

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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Thursday, January 5, 2006 5:06 PM

This is similar to the method I used to cut the square windows on my Arcadia. It was still a bear and the windos on the Enterprise B are even smaller...

http://culttvman.com/don_matthys__ent_b_excel_pt_1.html

"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 5, 2006 6:07 PM

That looks like it would drive me insane!! Smile [:)]

Aric, The effect might be doable with pastel chalks or graphite. You might post a Q over at the SM Forum, lotsa help over there.

Here's my latest pic, more panels on: 

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Monday, January 9, 2006 6:23 PM

Hey Masao!

I've been wondering... how's the Cadiprise doing?  Inquiring minds just HAVE to know!

~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:25 PM

More progress on the Lyran. Got shuttle bay doors cut out and glued HO scale corrugated aluminum siding to backside for doors. Glued panels on tonight.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><table class="quoteOuterTable"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/FSM/CS/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>Fish-Head Aric wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"><P>Hey Masao!</P>
<P>I've been wondering... how's the Cadiprise doing?  Inquiring minds just HAVE to know!</P></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

Almost no progress, sad to say, other than buying the kits for bashing. One problem is that this project represents my re-entry into modeling after a lay off of about 15 years. Maybe I should slap together a Spitfire for practice.
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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:35 AM
Sad to say same here. I have changed my mind on my swept wing hull conny and am going with a tradional refit conny configuration upgraded to NExt Gen standards. All I have done is printed out som schematics and working on the pain scheme and where to place the life boats. Alos a bought stome  styrene squares for the life boat hatches. I rmoved the bridge dome but I havent decided on the replacement.
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:18 PM
I would like to join this build also.  I am working on a kit-bash of the Polar Lights TOS 1/1000 kit.  Thanks!Smile [:)]
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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:40 PM

Welcome aboard.  Got ya on the first page roster message!

That makes you NUMBER 14!

So, how's it going with all you silent ones?  I went into a dormancy but am going to go head-on at the model in the next day or two.  I spend a lot of time vegetating and mulling over these things for day after day before I just explode into a flurry of get-r-done.  And I can feel the flurry slowly coming to the surface...

Hey, am actually getting a hankering to do something different.  I got an old Tech Manual from the library - the original SF Tech Manual from 1970s.  Was sorta thinking it might be cool to try and create the hangar bay alone, or some other TOS ship scenery - with some improv and such, and see what comes of it.  BIG project, but am sure I can land an old shuttlecraft model and go from there, eh?  I remember building the Galileo 7 back as a kid.  Dorky little thing but fun.

~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:00 PM
I won't be able to get started back on mine until after this week. Gotta finish the Robot and Dr. Smith for a con this weekend. Still gota figure out that bridge...
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by SNOOPY on Sunday, January 22, 2006 3:17 PM
I was looking at the Starfleet Museum and browsing the information on the Bison Class Starship. I am very puzzled about the layout information. The ship moves through space with the engine horizontally. The floor plans show the floors at a perpendicular. How is this possible? Am I missing something? Is this a ship where it travels length wise but with artificle gravity pulling in the perpendicular direction of travel? Does anyone have any insight on this phenonamon?
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Posted by Woody on Sunday, January 22, 2006 3:46 PM
In the Star Trek universe gravity aboard starships is artificial. Manipulated gravity fields and energy dampers control gravity as the crew experiences it and controls structural loads on the vessel. If they wanted to they could have the crew walking on what seems to be the ceiling. There is really no up or down in space just orientation of the ship.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:32 PM
I have it on very good authority that that Starfleet Museum guy is an absolute nut case, so take everything with Lot's-wife–size grain of salt.

I figured that these early ships preserved a layout from when the illusion of gravity could be provided, for part of a voyage, by thrust along a ship's longitudinal axis. Even when gravity was later created by generators, that deck orientation remained. I also figure that decks stacked along the longitudinal axis makes more sense for long, cylindrical ships, sort of like a space-going office building.


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Posted by SNOOPY on Monday, January 23, 2006 12:08 PM

 Masao wrote:
I have it on very good authority that that Starfleet Museum guy is an absolute nut case, so take everything with Lot's-wife–size grain of salt. I figured that these early ships preserved a layout from when the illusion of gravity could be provided, for part of a voyage, by thrust along a ship's longitudinal axis. Even when gravity was later created by generators, that deck orientation remained. I also figure that decks stacked along the longitudinal axis makes more sense for long, cylindrical ships, sort of like a space-going office building.

Masao, I think a lot of us can be considered "Absolute Nut Cases"!  I understand your logic on this is is sound.  The only thing I can not get a hold of is that when the shuttles dock or any other ship dock, they would have to change their pitch to a down (perpendicular) and hope the Bison has stopped or do some very trick manuvering for docking and taking off.  I do like the overall design, which is why I am making a model of it.  Right now my UES DADEALUS Class is taking up most of my time.  One question for you Masao, the nacelle supports (the wings, not sure the technical term) is not shown in any of the orthographic views e.g. - the distance from main hull, do you have something showing what they look like or can I be a little creative in this department?  I am thinking of doing either the Cosmoflot or Lufthansa Starliner.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 23, 2006 5:33 PM
For launching and recovering shuttles, I'm sure that the ship would not be under thrust, so the shuttles could match velocity pretty easily. The procedure is probably automated anyway.

The supports are pretty simple, just rectangular and perpendicular to the hull. Small nacelles on other ships of the era are usually about one nacelle width out from the hull. I figure these are about the same.
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Posted by SNOOPY on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:43 PM

Thanks Masao.  I hope I can get back to the building of it soon.  Right now I am trying out Woody's technique for making the tapered section of the UES DADEALUS.  Things are coming along slowly.  Work is picking up so more and more over-time is needed.  I will pervail.

Woody, I also tried your home-made putty technique.  It works like a charm.  I am also building a Michael Keaton Batmobile and needed to fill in around the intakes and used the home-made putty.  It work better than the Squadron putty I was using.  Not much sanding needed either if smoothed right.  Thanks!

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Posted by Woody on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:54 PM
I'm glad the putty is working for you. Bring on the pictures. Smile [:)]

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 27, 2006 7:28 PM

-Sigh- Hey all!

I need to draw on everyones experience.  How critical is it to put a 'Primer' coat on before you paint the model?  I am using an aerosol can of gray primer and it sucks.  I've tried different brands, and they suck too.  Do they make a primer that I can put in my airbrush?  I'd much rather use it that a clumsy, wide angle, mess up everything, aerosol can.

Thanks in advance!

C2

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Posted by Woody on Friday, January 27, 2006 8:35 PM
I would just use some grey Model Master in my airbrush.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 30, 2006 1:06 PM

Here are some early shots of my concept ship.  Tell me what you think.

I also have most of my other models posted here.

www.goobear.com/hybrid

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 30, 2006 6:12 PM
Interesting! Be advised, though, that anything at the front of the secondary hull is going to be blocked by the mounds of the primary hull. For example, any deflectors, sensors, or docking bays you might put there will be pretty much blocked from the front.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 30, 2006 9:56 PM

Masao,

Good point.  I hadn't actually planned on adding a deflector dish, and the shuttle bay was to be at the rear of the ship as normal.  I may end up hanging the deflector off of the underside of the saucer near the front, but that may not look cosmetically 'sleek'.  I'm thinking this may be more of a 'fast attack' cruiser...

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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:16 PM

Sweet design I love it.

Hey woody what's this homemade putty you guys are talking about?

"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by Woody on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:59 PM
You place bits of styrene scrap in a glass jar and add MEK or liquid cement untill it desolves into a goo. If it's too thin add more styrene.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 2, 2006 5:31 PM
sign me up for an AGT Enterprise D
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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:20 PM

Looks like we all went quiet for awhile, hmmmm...

Got you signed in there, joey.  Have been taken up with other things and not been around to make my peanut-comments.

But, still here in a manner of speaking.

~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Monday, March 6, 2006 1:50 PM

So, where are all of us at?  Been awhile no noise made.

Personally, I set the Conny aside for a bit because I really needed to take a break.  But am picking it up and gonna git 'er done!  Forgetting about the drilling noles and such, I decided to just keep it to the known holes this time around.  Save fancier for bigger scales.

I did take up a Hasegawa WWII German halftrack just to change.

Call it therapy, right?

How's everyone else coming?

~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 6, 2006 8:03 PM
I've kinda stalled out myself. Last thing I completed were the warp engines" main pieces. I need to find some "nozzles" for the rear of them. The Rommie scout is primed and ready to paint.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 1:45 AM

I finished my AGT Enterprise D and my Year of Hell Voyager. If you all have not seen them here is the link

http://photos.yahoo.com/lightyearmodels

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 5:02 PM
Hey there, I've gathered all my building reserch material for my bird of prey, I just need to get my hands on some light sheet stuff.  Does anybody know of a link or site where I can purchase the goods, I gotta light the Birds warp engine.  It seems I can't start building until I have all the gear.  Plaese advise.  TL
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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Friday, April 7, 2006 2:24 PM

Well, we have three weeks or so until the "Day of Reckoning".  I know some of you have posted your projects on separate threads, but would love to see them come in here as well since a few may have slipped back into the backpages.

Any of ya, just let us all know how things are going, eh?

Also, I'll get that little badge I started wrapped up soon (see my signature below).  It sorta fell through the cracks. 

And I may even get my own model finished if I take time to sit and just do it!

I think I got everyone wanting in this, but to recap... here is the hitlist of the builders:

  • "Fish-Head Aric" Fisher: Something Federation-inspired, based off PL 1/1000 Enterprise Kit
  • Phillip Fisher (Fish-Head's Son):  PL 1/1000 Klingon D-7 Battlecruiser
  • Kathleen Fisher (Fish-Head's Wife):  Scratchbuilding a Daedelus class.
  • Woody:  Starfleet Battles Light Cruiser
  • Masao:  "Cadiprise" of own design  -  1/2500 Enterprise from Starship Modeler.
  • maxx1969:  Uncertain but with the program
  • ilikeswissmiss:  USS Grissom - Oberth Class ship
  • StevenQ:  Lyran cruiser  -  Romulan scout
  • SNOOPY:  Orion Pirate from Starfleet Battles, or Lufthansa Starliner (possible appearance of a Daedelus in the works)
  • MartianGundamModeler:  "...movie era Constitution Class refit/upgrade to Next Generation/DS9/Voyager standards"
  • Kevlar7764:  Modified PL 1/1000 Constitution-class model - yet to be named
  • ProfKSergeev:  "Accurised AMT/Ertl Enterprise D" - Starcrafts Oberth-Class, marked as the U.S.S. Tsiolkovski
  • deathbringer:  Klingon Bird of Prey
  • CSquared:  Kitbashing a Polar Lights TOS 1/1000 kit
  • joey_d1119:  "AGT Enterprise D"
  • ~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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