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SHE'S DONE!!: TOS Enterprise..With aztec!....
Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Saturday, November 4, 2006 7:25 AM

Well, I simply couldnt help myself, and so I decided to build one of my all time "have to do" builds..

I am of course talking about the TOS Enterprise with hull plating and aztec...

I started off with the AMT 22" Cutaway  TOS Enterprise kit, and decided that I wanted to make this baby the way I feel she needs to be..

 

Dont get me wrong. I love the the old girl like the next Trek fan, but in all honesty, at 32, I wasnt around 40 years ago, and even though I still watch and love the original series. I have always felt that the Enterprise needed a little more in the way of character.. So the decision was made after re-watching the Enterprise episodes of "A Mirror Darkly" by where we saw the USS Defiant in all its up-dated glory, I decided to do my version of how an updated Enterprise should look..! 

In these pictures, I have assembled the saucer section, and have layed down my own design for an aztec pattern.. It took ages to measure all of this out and cut, but I think it is well worth it.. .. Infact the aztec was only just completed when these pics were taken, but I have actually added extra coats to the final finish, and have blended the aztec in to how I think it should appear.. Pics to come tomorrow after it dries a little more..

ps: I dont mind putting myself out there, and calling the latest Star Trek Group build, as a no show.. I do however give Capt S merrit for trying to start another one though...

Its got nothing to do with who has started anything. But there has simply been zero responce to it.. And I find that a bit of a shame...

I normally build aircraft. But have enjoyed doing all the sci-fi kits of late.. And its just a shame that the sci-fi section doesnt get the same participation on this site as it does others?.. Plus when it seems like there are only a few members that actually post on a regular basis, then it kinda feels like we are taking up space, and posting just for the sake of it?..

As for me. I will be heading back to my usual aircraft board and I will leave the sci-fi section alone for a while.. I will continue to build my Trek kits

Chris 

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Posted by cassibill on Saturday, November 4, 2006 4:36 PM

Looking good, Chris.  I was taken by the revved up Constitution Class in "In A Mirror Darkly" too.  If you can find when they are showing them they are remastering the classic episodes

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/TOS/article/28095.html 

Check out the revved up Romulan ship and K-7, plus the newly created Gorn ship. I'm glad I haven't build my TOS kits yet.

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Saturday, November 4, 2006 7:00 PM

Thanks mate..

I have had the opportunity to see the updated episodes that have aired so far, and must say I have enjoyed them.. I like the Romulan BOP that they re-did, but I think that that they didnt do the aztec on this version of the Enterprise.. I was reading somewhere that they just enhanced it to fit in with its surrounds.. The version I am building is based on the Defiant from "Enterprise"... I must admit that when I watch the "Enhanced" versions, I do double takes on the Enterprise shots to see if someone did sneak an aztec pattern in there somewhere. he he he

Here is where I am at.. I have just finished the top part of the saucer and blended it all in together.. I will put the rust ring around the middle, and then start the decals... 

Chris 

 

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Posted by Dubau on Sunday, November 5, 2006 8:13 AM

WOW Chris. She's looking SWEET !

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Posted by Cpt.Sponder on Sunday, November 5, 2006 10:35 AM

looking good chris!

and about the GB, yup, its a shame there isn't any more intrest for it.. dissapointing indeed!!

oh well.. it was worth a shot..

as for the regular postings, well, i dont have any internet at home for the moment (could take a while too..) so im only on the net when im at work, or at my parents house (like now..) and without having internet, its kinda hard to post ;-P

 

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Posted by Raist3001 on Monday, November 6, 2006 9:46 AM
Very nice subtle aztec you got going there Chris.  I like it very much.
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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Monday, November 6, 2006 4:04 PM

Thanks for that Raist... I have really scratched my head with this one.. Its one of those, what is too much, what is enough kind of deals.. I have since put the rust ring around the top to stick with the original feel of the ship..

I love the original ship, so I didnt want the aztec to be in your face, and I just wanted it to look like a natural surface to what would normally be a flat plain saucer section..  I have started masking the secondary hull and nacelles, and will have that done, sometime today. My only problem is, that with all the work I have put into this 22" Cutaway, I now how have a gap on the neck where the saucer meets the neck.. So I have a feeling I should start on that and get any filling and sanding done before I start paint on both the underside of the saucer and the neck.. I dont like the idea of having a gap on the neck..

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Posted by Cpt.Sponder on Monday, November 6, 2006 4:44 PM
 Chris_in_Japan wrote:

Thanks for that Raist... I have really scratched my head with this one.. Its one of those, what is too much, what is enough kind of deals..

really looks you found the balance there chris!! GJ!!!

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Posted by coldwar68 on Monday, November 6, 2006 7:01 PM

That is one good looking ship you have there Chris.  Great job.  The aztecing looks really good on there. 

 I have a few Star Trek ships to build.  I am working on an Ent-B right now and am trying to finish up an old Excelsior that I have had in the works for years.  Also got a Runabout going on too. 

 Jerry

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Tuesday, November 7, 2006 12:22 AM

Thanks for that Capt..

Jerry, Thanks for having a look... Dont be shy, and take a few pics of your builds. I am sure everyone would be interested in taking a look.. The Excelsior is a beautifull ship. And in my eyes, should have been the E-B..  Maybe you should join in on the Star Trek Group build that we started, a little slow at the minute, but I am sure more will join in..

Ok, as an update, I have just taken another pic of my progress.. As you will see in the picture, I have all but done the aztec on the secondary hull and pylons.. The warp nacelles will be done next.. You will also notice that the neck has also been left bare.. I have decided that I will join the saucer, and fill the seem. although it would be unoticable, and will look fine, I dont like the idea of a seam where the saucer meets the neck, so want it to be completely flush.. Once the final aztecing is done, I will finish the bottom of the saucer section and lay down the over coats.. The sensor section is also being given a special  bit of love...

Chris 

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Posted by cassibill on Tuesday, November 7, 2006 11:34 AM
You just about have this one beat, Chris.  I bet your looking for the new Ships of the Line book coming out this month.  Yummy Starfleet goodness

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Tuesday, November 7, 2006 4:31 PM

Thanks..  Well I am a little scared, because I need to get my extra coats to exactly match the top part of the saucer.. But thanks for your comment.. Back to work today, so wont have any new progress..

 

Chris 

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Posted by ilikespagetti on Tuesday, November 7, 2006 7:24 PM
That looks great, after looking at it and looking at it and looking at it, I realized it looked odd because of the lack of grid lines. No offense meant what so ever I just mean it looks kinda naked without them.
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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Tuesday, November 7, 2006 11:00 PM

No offence taken..

I did actually make up the grid in order to make up an aztec to fit. But as for lines, I  am still undecided as to what I will do. And if so, how noticable I will make it....

 Chris

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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Wednesday, November 8, 2006 10:00 AM

Once again a very good job on the aztecing. You build on a fast pace!

 As for your comments regarding the SF forum. I have only been here for a short while so I can't comment on everything.

However, I am a little bit suprised by your comment on the ST GB. Since the activity on the SF forum is lower then on the aircraft forum, the response rate is going to be lower as wel.

I thought that the response rate on the ST GB was reasonable and comparable (even higher) to the other GB's I have participated in. (maybe I have been participating in the wrong GB's?)

 

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Wednesday, November 8, 2006 4:34 PM

Oh, I definately understand what you are saying.. I guess my thing is, that I and a few others enjoy participating on the boards.. So much so that it seems that we are the only ones that do.. I sometimes feel guilty about that because, it feels like I am trying to be a board hog as I always have something going..

We have alot more members that frequent this board than you know, and the fact that they just pop in every now and then is kinda dissapointing, and feel that the other sci-fi boards are more of a social event than I dare say this one..

I guess because I do build so much, and I do post so often, I have just felt that it has left me open for critisism because by some, I am seen as a know it all, or a show off..  And the fact that I am honest and say what I feel also rubs people up the wrong way aswell..  I also build in many subjects, and not just only sci-fi, and so I find that some people that are strait down the line sci-fi guys, can sometimes get a little full on if you dont do the right thing, or stick to what is canon or not.. For me, I model planes, helicopters, cars, armour ships, space everything. So I guess I dont have the same full on-ness as that...

The fact is. I have better things to worry about, than what annonomous people thousands of miles away, sitting behind a computer key board think of me. And so that is why I decided that after this build, I will step away a little, and return to other boards where it isnt so touchy.. 

Infact a couple of the guys that do post regularly on this board, I met through the other boards, and they know who they are and have always been supportive of not only me as a friend, but also the members on most of the boards on this site.. 

UPDATE: Here is just a pic of the nacelles that I have started working on.. I have fixed the seams thtat connect the saucer to the neck, and so have just resprayed it, and tomorrow will mask it up ready for the aztec on the neck.. After that is complete, I can then start the rest of the painting, and get her done..

 

Cheers Chris 

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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Thursday, November 9, 2006 9:30 AM
 Chris_in_Japan wrote:

The fact is. I have better things to worry about, than what annonomous people thousands of miles away, sitting behind a computer key board think of me. And so that is why I decided that after this build, I will step away a little, and return to other boards where it isnt so touchy.

I guess that you are hinting about a nasty discussion or flame war that I completly missed. It's a pity that these kind of things happen and drive active members away from the board.

Thanks for offering some insight in why you have made your discission.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 9, 2006 2:48 PM
The last Star Trek group build last spring was a crap fest too. We had 14 people sign up and all of them but me flaked.........
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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Thursday, November 9, 2006 5:54 PM

Remco, I am glad you missed it, and its good that we are a little more civil over here.. In all honesty, there is alot more to life, than getting upset about certain things.. Kinda why I joined this board in the first place.. Most of the members here are genuinly approachable and helpfull.. 

joey.. Its a shame. I looked over at that board every now and then, and noticed that it didnt get far.. As a rule, I normally dont participate in Group Builds, because I build too fast, and as I am not a one subject guy. The builds that start, I am usually interested in something else at that point in time.. (For example. I was building Modern Jets about 3 or 4 months ago, and then did a WWII Mustang.. After building a few aircraft, I looked at my stash, and saw a few sci-fi kits that I had and felt in the mood to do them.. After I finish these Enterprises that I am doing. I will probably go back and build a Jet to break the manotony (spelling?) And might even get in the mood for a ship. It all depends on what takes my interest) 

I only said that the group build was dead, because it pretty well is.. There has been no input since remco's Voyager (and he has a big job ahead of him, so understand if updates are a little slow in comming), no banner made, no nothing.. Not trying to upset anyone. Just being honest.. I just feel that you need more than a handfull of people to keep it going. And if you want to start and run a group build. Then you actually get it moving. Not rely on everyone else to do it..  Again, just trying to be honest..

Chris 

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Saturday, November 11, 2006 7:32 AM

UPDATE: 

I have finished all the aztec but for the life of me tonight, I cant get a decent picture under this light. So I will wait till morning, and take a few more so you can see the secondary hull and the nacelles..

Next I will be doing the copper deflector section and the warp nacelles, and then adding the extra parts to the nacelles.. The red plasma domes are not finished and will resemble how they look in the enhanced series. Or how I think they should look..

I must stress, that this TOS-E is not, and was never intentioned to be a canon build. It is a version of how I would bring the old girl into a more modern existance..  

Chris 

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:54 AM

Chris, I think Scotty would say "She's a fine ship laddie" I personally think this is a great way to bring her into a "modern existence".  Steady as she goes

 

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Saturday, November 11, 2006 4:32 PM

Thanks Ed.. Happy you like it.. Maybe I am breaking tradition and a golden rule of Star Trek building. But I thought it would be a fun project.. Cant wait to get the decals on and show her in all her glory!

Chris 

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Saturday, November 11, 2006 10:06 PM
 Chris_in_Japan wrote:

Thanks Ed.. Happy you like it.. Maybe I am breaking tradition and a golden rule of Star Trek building. But I thought it would be a fun project.. Cant wait to get the decals on and show her in all her glory!

Chris 

 

TOS was breaking traditions when it first aired so, don't tripBig Smile [:D]  It's been fun watchin' you build this up & I can't wait to see her in ALL her Glory too!!Tongue [:P]

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:28 PM

Well Ed, before I move on to the decals, I need to finish the nacelled and the last of the painting. Then I will begin.. I also have to do the domes.. This is proving to be a little tricky..

Chris 

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:42 PM
That's understandable Chris, the domes are a bit tricky from what I've read about them. The Nacelles are a bit of a trick themselves from what little I have done with them personally on the lil guys) I know you'll do it up right in your own time Chris. I have faith in your abilitiesWhistling [:-^]
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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Sunday, November 12, 2006 12:48 AM

He he he thanks Ed.. Always appreciate the words of wisdom!..

Well while we are talking about it, I have a little update for you with a few pics.. I have painted the nacelles and also the impulse section, but the nacelles will be given a very special bit of finishing that I hope really sets them off.. You will also notice that the domes are 2 different colours.. I am trying to decide which I prefer. Also, I am scratching my head in finding a way to do the blade effect on the domes as we see it in the enhanced sries... Anyway, hopefully you can see the aztec a little better now..

Chris

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:59 AM
Yeah, that does look good Chris!! Scotty'd be proudApprove [^]
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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:28 PM

You know, I never liked sitting and watching the original series, because after we have been spoiled in modern times with effects, I just found the old show tiring and a little boring.. But since they have done the new Enhanced episodes, I have found myself really enjoying and appreciating the old series.. It has given me a new respect for the original and a new fan has been born.. One of the main reasons I wanted to buld this Enerprise... I hope Scotty is proud of it...

As for an update...

I have been doing this build in different sections.. And this time was time for the saucer to be completed. I have to now finish the bottom, and then I will move back onto the secondary hull and nacelles... All I have left to do on the saucer is airbrush the white boxes on the top and paint the nav lights..

With the Nav lights and white panels..

UPDATE 2:

Here I have placed it up on a base (actually its the base for my Enterprise D) but I wanted to see how she looked sitting up there..I will be making its base after I have completed her..

Chris

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Monday, November 13, 2006 5:36 AM

UPDATE: Nacelles...

Ok, I have finished the Warp Nacelles, and I am very happy with the way they have turned out.. I am also happy with the colour selection I used including the silver.. Please dont take any notice of the domes.. I am still scratching my head with them..

ps: Because its night time, and it is under fluro light, I am having to use the flash, and the aztec on th secondary hull and nacelles is being washed out..

Chris

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Posted by Cpt.Sponder on Monday, November 13, 2006 2:23 PM

<drewl mode on>

looking great chris!!

hey, can you tell me a little more about the bases you make? they look great. im very curious how you mount the models to them?!?.. do you drill a hole in the model? or?... as you mention, you can swap models per base..

 

thnx, sponder.

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