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  • Member since
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  • From: San Bernardino, CA
Posted by enemeink on Thursday, December 3, 2009 11:00 AM
well my hopes have been dashed. but all in all it looks like a good kit and so i'll probably pick it up anyway. thanks for the input.
"The race for quality has no finish line, so technically it's more like a death march."
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Posted by Billyboy on Thursday, December 3, 2009 6:35 AM

Didn't the Russian company Zvezda originally purchase this model and re-box it? Is this the same kit again?

The Portugese ship is very interesting late sailing frigate, worthy of a plastic kit. I hope Dragon or Zzevda haven't changed the tooling to represent this so called 'famous [mythical] french cruiser.] The spures below seem to imply no change though, including the reproduction of what look like a line of portholes (also seen on the preserved Dom Ferdinando) on the gun deck which presumably date to the period of her career when she was a store ship;

http://www.jadarhobby.pl/zvezda-9034-francuska-fregata-acheron-1200-p-18893.html?language=en

and the only pics of a completed model I can find;

http://www.mojoon.de/neuheiten-schiffe;french-frigate-acheron;856.html

here's a cracking photo of the superbly restored dom Ferdinando E Gloria II;

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/9167819

 

I have one in the stash which one day I hope to turn in to a model of HMS Meander- a 44 gun frigate of 1840 (only because all my other models are British, with the exception of a couple of US sailing types). As you can see the resemblance is obvious;

http://www.nmm.ac.uk/collections/displayRepro.cfm?reproID=F7788%2D001#content

Will

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Posted by Publius on Thursday, December 3, 2009 5:57 AM
My father had a saying, "Those that would go to sea for pleasure would go to hell for pastime." He was a ship captain. Guess I'll stick to models. Thanks for the post, Paul/Bangkok

How does this work?

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Posted by crackers on Thursday, December 3, 2009 2:04 AM

  I don't think the French frigate ACHERON is really an historical vessel. Rather, it is from the novel "Master and Command", from the Aubrey-Maturin series by the marine novelist, Patrick O'Brian. The novel story was later made into a film directed by Peter Weir and starring Russel Crow as Jack Aubrey, captain of the British frigate, SURPRISE. The film was released in 2003.

  The film's story takes place in 1805, when SURPRISE engages the French privateer, ACHERON and is damaged by the privateer. After repairs, Captain Aubrey learns that ACHERON is in the Eastern Pacific harassing the British whaling fleet. Sailing around Cape Horn, the SURPRISE arrives at the Galapagos Islands, and through a surprise chance of fate, learns that ACHERON is anchored on the opposite side of the island. Using deception, Captain Aubrey disguises the SURPRISE as a British whaler, sneaks up to ACHERON and in a furious battle defeats ACHERON, taking the captured vessel to Valparaiso, Chile.

   The novelist Patrick O"Brian wrote of the engagement of the SURPRISE vs ACHERON in the Pacific, using the historical encounter of the 32 gun frigate, U.S.S. ESSEX and her defeat by the British frigate, H.M.S. PHOEBE and sloop-of-war, H.M.S. CHERUB in a bloody battle outside of Valpariso harbor on March 27, 1814. The U.S.S. ESSEX had decimated the British whaling fleet in the Pacific. PHOEBE and CHERUB were ordered to halt this menace.

    Acheron is the name of a river in N.W. Greece that flows into the Ionian Sea. In ancient Greek methology, Acheron is one of the five rivers that flows through the realm of Hades.

                  Montani semper liberi !  Happy modeling to all and every one of you.

                                                 Crackers       Angel [angel]

                                               

 

 

Anthony V. Santos

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, December 2, 2009 3:47 PM

 Mansteins revenge wrote:
"New tooling" usually means that existing moulds were updated or modified..."newly tooled" usually means brand new kit...

According to our own Kapudan Emir:

This is a reboxing of Occidental Replicas' (a defunct Portuguese company) 1/200 "Dom Fernando II e Gloria", a Portuguese 50 gunner from 1830s and now a museum ship in lisbon.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 2, 2009 3:32 PM
"New tooling" usually means that existing moulds were updated or modified..."newly tooled" usually means brand new kit...
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finally a new plastic tall ship model!!!
Posted by enemeink on Wednesday, December 2, 2009 2:56 PM

So this is new tooling and not a re-pop am I right? 

I think my eyes almost popped out of my head when i seen this in this months issues of FSM. I can't wait to get my paws on it. What's your thoughts on this?

http://www.dragonmodelsusa.com/dmlusa/prodd.asp?pid=ZVE9034

 

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