Help with gun/gun shield colors SMS Emden

Thanks Stik.

I've send you a PM with a question regarding aircraft.

Mike

She is a good looking build indeed! Very well done sir!

Thanks TOJO72.

Mike

Wow she is areal beauty for sure.You really captured the Swan of the east

Thanks guys!

She's full of mistakes/sloppiness for sure but I like the general overall effect. I may build the Dresden some day to keep her company .

Mike

Mike,

What mistakes, she looks great from my point of view.  Job well done.

Mike,

She's beautiful! Very nicely done.

Steve

OK, every time I take pictures of one of my models I see all sorts of mistakes, problems, things out of alignment, etc., etc. That's fine but this is the END of work on this model. I can straighten out the boat that's crooked but I'm not going to rework the rigging - too much trouble for a bookshelf ship .

At any rate, she's done. I may, just may attempt to use some aluminum foil and make a drooping flag for the rear flag staff but that's it. Finished. Even with all the mistakes I see I still think she's a good looking ship and will be delighted to put her on one of my shelves on my built-in bookshelf next to the HMS Dreadnought.

As I mentioned before, the colors are a combination of both the instructions and the box art which are at variance with each other on several parts of the ship. I just chose what I liked.

Mike

Thanks Chris.

I am in the process of doing the rigging. So far I'm just doing the shrouds, signal flag lines, and all the rigging that's on the masts and yards that doesn't go fore and aft. Soon - I hope - I'll get the the lines that go fore and aft as well as the flag on the stern staff and I'll consider it done.

The GMM set is definitely necessary to give a bit more detail to this old kit. I didn't do all of what I could have (I left the stairs as they were molded on the weather deck) but I did use most of the PE from the GMM set.

I'll be posting the finished pictures within a week or so I hope.

Mike

Well now that certainly look AOK to me!  I'm up to build this kit for the 100th Anniv WW1 group build so I have been following your build with interest.  I invested in the Gold Medal etched set and I plan to paint her in the wartime grey.  Gotta get goin'!!!

Again, good job and way to persevere through the adversity!

Working on the rigging. Colors a combination of Revell instructions and the box art - whatever I liked.

Not very accurate and a bit sloppy but a worthy companion for my Dreadnought on one of my bookshelves I think when she's done.

Mike

Look at you!

She's lovely for sure.

Well the Emden is out of the breaking yard with the misapplied parts now switched around .

I've made some progress but my work on this kit is not up to even my standards which are very, very accommodating to say the least . However, I will continue the build and will be into the rigging in the next week or so. Eventually she'll sit on one of my bookshelves. I have the accommodation ladders and the masts with their respective platforms, etc. to get to first.

The first two images here are of the completed switch before sanding and touch-up painting. The last three images are as she sits today. (There are some strange shadow areas and a blurry forward flag staff in the last image since it's actually 4 exposures at different focus points blended together in Photoshop)

Mike

SMS Emden is at my ship breaking yard today.

More to come in a few weeks.

Mike

Soft scrap the model. I usually take mine apart at least once.

Wait'll you see the Citadel on my  half finished Heller Potemkin that I just broke out of storage. 20% list forward.

Your Emden is already at a point where it's a really nice model. To abandon it now would be silly.

Bondo also suggested some other ideas like replacing the lookout posts at the ends of the bridge wings with simple folded brass screens. Those gun shields.

Get the book Last Voyage of the Emden., if you haven't already.

What a story and the sinking is only the beginning.

Yes, I now know. As I said above, I found my mistake. I'm sooo embarrassed.

Mike

So I looked at bondomans model which is on my shelf, and that stair isn't there.

He pointed out to me that the crosswise stair down has a canvas quarter round cover.

 I now know what I did wrong. Very simple .... I switched the port and starboard  sides of the deck house!!!! .

Oh well, I still have a Dresden I can build!

Mike

Another problem (for me) has arisen and it has conquered me . I am at a loss as to what I was supposed to do when a part just did not fit correctly - or more accurately, as shown in the instructions.. However, I went ahead (probably to my everlasting embarrassment ) and worked around it. I think I just should have cut out the offending stairs but they seemed such an integral part of the deck house area that I didn't even think of it until I'd already massacred my kit.

The stairs that are the cause of the passageway not fitting correctly don't make any sense to me now that the passageway sits directly on top of them. I thought for an instant I might have attached the passageway to the wrong side of the ship but, no, the instructions clearly show it on the port side as do some other drawings of the Emden I found on the Internet. So I'm totally befuddled.

What would some of you have done? Warhipguy? Bondoman?

Mike

I broke down and purchased the wood decks with wood deck gun platforms (it is pricey for the size, don't know if I would do it again) - I sanded the upper halves till they fit well, then put the wood deck down in between.  It is not a great fit, I would recommend sand and fit the liquid glue to get it down

Thanks Irish!

Since several of you are of the opinion that the shafts should be painted the hull color, that's what they'll be colored.

BTW, did you have any difficulties in putting the deck on the hull? The way I built mine I had to do some sanding above  where the guns sit that are mounted below the deck on each side of the forward half of the hull. Otherwise I just couldn't get the deck to slide in properly even prying apart the hull halves somewhat. It was such a tight fit in places that I was a bit worried that I'd break the hull apart just trying to get the deck on! I probably just don't have enough experience building 1/350 ships yet to realize that this is just something one deals with along the way.

Mike

Hi mike,

Doing the Emden myself, I did some research for the build and I think the shafts were inside of steel tubes, thus would be hull colored

Marcus,

Thanks for your thoughts.

I think I may repaint the shaft to the hull red color but I wondered if this community had others who know for sure about the Emden/Dresden prop shaft colors. It's certainly not a big deal to me but I'm posting these discrepancies between the single and double Revell kits as I find them.

Mike

I always thought that prop shafts were made of steel and were either painted the color of the hull or left unpainted.

I have another question regarding the prop shafts. Should they be painted hull red or brass? Those are the two conflicting choices Revell has given us between the double kit and single kit. I've already painted the shafts brass and the cowling (or whatever it's called coming out of the hull) and the brackets will be hull red as well. I think that's what Revell meant to convey but I'm at a loss as to why they make their kits with conflicting instructions.

Here's where I am so far. Lots of filling (puttying), sanding and touch-up painting still to come around the hull/deck joins. 

Mike

GMorrison,

I may not have mixed my colors to the most historically accurate hue but I'm satisfied with what I came up with.

As I explained in the first post in this thread, I had a devil of a time just trying to get the hull together. I completely ruined my original kit's hull. The amount of time I spent trying to get the pieces (four of them) to fit together was exorbitant and each successive attempt seemed to reek more havoc on the puzzle. I gave up and am keeping the hull for a potential waterline model in the future.

My new hull is coming along much better. I'm on my second round of puttying and sanding but I think (I hope) it'll be OK. The following picture shows my second attempt at the hull (which I should be air brushing today) along with the fret showing the color I've mixed up and am using as the "yellow".

Mike

And the other color isn't ochre at all. It's pretty yellow. Again adding a little black gives it scale, but it's not Spar or Buff. The successful models I've seen use Lufthansa Yellow with black added.

I think that's a good way to go. The WEM color seems to be white with a little black added for scale effect.

I'm certain the real thing was really cool white, not gray. But that again wouldn't look right in a model.

Ron,

Thanks for your input. As I suggested, I'll be using the same color on the guns and shields as is on the hull. I've painted the hull a light gray - not so light one would call it white but very, very light.

Mike