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  • Member since
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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Friday, May 27, 2022 9:18 PM

Marc (Hubac's Historian) probably moved his thread over to Model Ship World. It is well worth the look and is an entirely different approach to building the SR.

Bill

 

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  • From: Chicago suburbs
Posted by Luvspinball on Monday, May 23, 2022 11:01 AM

Tried searching for this.  Empty.

Do you have a link?

Bob

Bob Frysztak

Luvspinball

Current builds:  Revell 1/96 USS Constitution with extensive scratch building

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    September 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Saturday, May 21, 2022 6:54 PM

David,

Once again, your build is one of the best I have seen of this model. Have you seen the effort by Hubac's Historian?

Bill Morrison

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Posted by yancovitch on Wednesday, May 18, 2022 12:09 PM

sad, i guess this gentleman is is totally gone Crying

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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, May 1, 2022 4:03 PM

Oh My!

  That's Beautimus!!

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Posted by yancovitch on Sunday, May 1, 2022 2:26 PM

hi, am building a wooden hull for the plastic heller soleil royal, and had a few questions if possible....couldn't pm you.............thanks vic

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Posted by lurch on Sunday, May 1, 2022 1:39 PM

David that is some pretty impressive work there. You did a great job on it.

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  • From: Marysville, WA
Posted by David_K on Sunday, May 1, 2022 9:29 AM

Hello!

Yes, I'm still around :)

I come to the forum occasionally and read some of the current posts, but I'm not as active in the discussions as I once was.  Glad to see so many modelers are keeping the forum fresh!

Dave

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Posted by yancovitch on Tuesday, April 19, 2022 11:41 PM

hello hello....was wondering if you are still around....??Big Smile

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Posted by David_K on Saturday, June 2, 2018 8:47 AM

*zombie*

Very happy to see that Photobucket has lifted their ransom/embargo on previously-hosted photos....so many threads here have been rendered purposeless by the loss of pics.

Glad that I can now go back and review this one, in particular.

 

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  • From: Summerville, SC
Posted by jeffpez on Wednesday, July 26, 2017 4:46 PM

Hey Costas - I have the English instructions in both PDF and and hard copy I can either mail or email. Let me know at jeffpesnel@gmail.com

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Posted by recce009 on Wednesday, July 26, 2017 9:26 AM

Don't know where you live, but we have a Harbor Freight here in Sumter South Carolina. The have a limited supply of inexpensive modeling tools including a headlamp. I wear it with my glasses and it works great for close in work.

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    April 2017
Posted by costas on Monday, April 24, 2017 4:08 AM

Hello.

excellent job.  love the colours. especialy not doing white under.  i am thinking of buying one myself to build.  do you know where I can find english instructions in PDF?

 

thanks

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    March 2012
  • From: Marysville, WA
Posted by David_K on Tuesday, March 7, 2017 5:15 PM

1943Mike
taken time to relate your concerns, your constructive ideas, and your thoughts regarding your build in general.

 

Mike, I appreciate your appreciation!  It is ever my intent to share the insight and experience I gain during a project, and it's my hope that anyone who follows me down the path of the Soleil Royal (or any other model, for that matter) will be able to draw from the points I've laid out.

Thanks again for the (much too) kind words...

Dave

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Posted by cabrown1 on Tuesday, March 7, 2017 11:47 AM

Beautiful build. Is this ship the Soleil Royal that served as Brienne's flagship at Quiberon Bay?

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  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Tuesday, March 7, 2017 11:13 AM

Dave,

It's not your talent for building scale model ships that I find most lacking in many others - your talent is a given after the Golden Hind, Spanish Galleon, and now the Soleil Royal. There are probably a generous number of folks who may approach your talent level (although by generous I still mean less than 1% of the populous) but there are, I would hazard to guess, very, very few with the qualities of assiduousness and indefatigability you must possess to have completed such a magnificent model ship.

In addition to your above mentioned talents, you've generously taken time to relate your concerns, your constructive ideas, and your thoughts regarding your build in general. For all the work you've put into this WIP I thank you and will always be grateful to you and many others on this site who render immeasurably invaluable insights and building help to folks like me who, although not in possesion of your gifts, nonetheless enjoy working toward bettering ourselves in our hobby.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by scottrc on Tuesday, March 7, 2017 10:24 AM

Congrats Steve,

You have taken us through a very informative journey and helped many of us with your quesitons, thoughts, insights, and trials thoughout this build.  That is one very nice piece of work you had created and now have displayed.

Scott

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    September 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Monday, March 6, 2017 5:41 AM

Late Note:  I neglected to include Force9 and his truly outstanding USS Constitution in my list of favorites, and I am taking this opportunity to so recognise his artistry and skills as well.

Bill

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, March 5, 2017 5:23 PM

Dave,

You've earned it!

Bill

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    March 2012
  • From: Marysville, WA
Posted by David_K on Sunday, March 5, 2017 12:52 PM

Thanks, Bill....that's a pretty big endorsement!  I guess it would be uncouth of me to agree with you Cool , but I am super glad that my version of this kit has been so well-received!

I mentioned when beginning this thread that I found several derelict build logs for the Heller Soleil Royal among various online sites....I'd say it's an achievement just to have finished mine...I'm very pleased with the finished product.  Sure, it took awhile, and there were a number of obstacles along the way, but it's not so daunting.  There's an old proverb about how to eat an elephant...one bite at a time.  :)

I agree that Gene, Rob, and Rdiaz are very, very talented modelers....to be listed among them is a great honor.

Humbly,

David_K

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Posted by warshipguy on Wednesday, March 1, 2017 1:57 PM

Dave,

Your SR is my all-time favorite project featured on this site, followed very, very closely by the ships built by Gene1, rwiederich and rdiaz.  We have quite a few gifted modelers here, and these are the best of the best.

Bill

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    January 2015
Posted by rdiaz on Wednesday, March 1, 2017 1:30 PM

It's great to see this one finished, Dave. You even managed to finish it relatively quickly and at the same time up to very high standards... Superb work as one would expect!

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  • From: Marysville, WA
Posted by David_K on Tuesday, February 7, 2017 9:04 AM

Thanks, Steve!

Man, haven't heard from you in a while, hope things have been okay...

Yeah, the SR was a heck of a project, now she sits on display in the Dave-Cave so I can remember 2 years of dedication!

I'm actually beginning some planning and prep for  much simpler, but no less intriguing kit, the Imai Catalan!  I was hoping to pick yours and Rod's brains regarding some ideas for the build (I have a dilemma regarding display base and prior deck installation)...perhaps I'll email you guys or bring up one of your Catalan WIP threads...

Dude, good to hear from you!

Dave

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  • From: Tempe AZ
Posted by docidle on Monday, February 6, 2017 9:57 PM

Dave,

You have really done an outstanding job on the SR Bud!!! Congratulations on finishing this bear. Very, very impressive.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by rhamlin on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 4:25 AM

David,

I think that you have come very close to the look of the Louis Quinze with the paintwork on your model, whcih as everybody has noted is superb.  Can you give us a detail briefing on the wood effect on the hull and how it was achieved, plus the antiqued gold and blue if it's not a trade secret!  These are always the hardest things to get right with plastic boats.  I am not that experienced - Full size wooden rowing shells has been my thing up 'til now - but they are a bit big and are getting in the way.

I am planning on using Citadel paints.  This acrylic range is produced by Games Workshop, the mob who do Warhammer 40,000 and other fantasy wargames.  Lovely paints and washes with a very wide and subtle pallette, especially in the metallics, that as they are used to paint living things are well suited to natural subjects like sailing ships - but very expensive and with disgusting names ('Snot Green', 'Rotting Flesh' & 'Vomit Brown' for instance). 

Got this right this time - the last post went up accidentally with typos!

Rob

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Posted by crackers on Monday, January 30, 2017 10:49 PM

 Really impressive work on both the model and the display case. I have this Heller kit gathering dust on a closet shelf. If ever there comes a time to construct this model, your thread will be remembered.

Happy modeling   Crackers    Smile

Anthony V. Santos

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    March 2012
  • From: Marysville, WA
Posted by David_K on Monday, January 30, 2017 6:09 PM

Interesting stuff, rhamlin....I've never heard of the Louis Quinze model.  It look svery nice, and definitely seems to share some stylistic affect with the Soleil Royal.

BTW, I decided to install a permanent track light fixture in the ceiling above the SR Display case....makes a huge difference!  It's also on a dimmer, so I adjust the intensity to suit the ambient light.

Not half bad, I must say!

 

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Posted by rhamlin on Sunday, January 29, 2017 4:02 PM

Amen to case for models - I have just retrieved a nicely made Artesina Latina moel of Scottish Maid from my recently deceased friends office - entirely covered in a thick layer of kitchen grease and elkhound fluff.  Took two weeks with a sable brush and methylated spirits to get it clean. Produced a smashing museum-aged finish on the decks, spars and fittings to go with its new paint and sails, but I don't fancy a rerun so into a ripply glass antique style case it goes.

Now I'm looking at starting the Heller Soleil.  I found this thread very interesting/inspiring.  A lot of debate about stuff, personally I am more in favour of this model than most.  As a prefessional researcher this is debate very intriguing.  I am interested that very little mention is made of the Louis Quinze as a guide for Soleil Royale. 

The Louis Quinze never existed as anything other than a model - but what a model it is! Fully finished in c. 35th scale it appears to have been made in the reign of Louis XIV for the instruction of his children, most probably the young Louis for whom it was named - He became king aged five.  Thus functional accuracy and completeness may have been a prime requirement, and cost was clearly no object.  It now resides at the Musee National de Marine in Paris.

As Louis XV was not born until 1710, it is unlikely that the model was created before this date if royal education was its purpose, which means that it is slightly later than the Soleil Royale.  However, the Louis Quinze is beleived to be based upon the Royal Louis of 110 guns which although very slightly larger than Soleil Royale was built in 1692, only some 22 years after Soleil Royale was commissioned.  A model of this ship is also in the Musee National de Marine - the similarities are striking. 

Louis Quinze - Picture Wikipedia (courtesy: Rama, CC BY-SA 3.0 fr, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=3211555)

Louis Quinze mp3h9290.jpg


These big first rates were a rarity, and at the risky limits of contemporary technology.  Thus the rate of their construction and possibly evolution was slow.  The picture of the Louis Qunize above shows a ship with a hull form and detail  that is strikingly similar to the Soleil Royale.  Can the details of its masts and rigging and decortative pallette thus be taken to be siimilar too?

 

 

 

  

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  • From: Marysville, WA
Posted by David_K on Thursday, January 5, 2017 5:20 PM

As far as I know, there's no way to avoid dust without a case!  My Imai Golden Hind has been sitting on the shelf here for two years....I take little brushes and q-tips to it every so often to clean it up...it needs a case!

Now I have my Imai Chebec and my Heller Soleil Royal in cases, and they will be safe and sound.  Since I've learned to make a display case, I figure I'll make a new case for any new ship models I build, particularly if I plan to keep them....which, sadly, I can't keep too many around the house...the ones at my in-laws are not protected.

Dave

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