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Heller 1/75 La Reale De France

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  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, July 12, 2015 9:25 PM

She could have gone "wing and wing"--one sail out to port and the other to starboard.  This would only be with the wind right abaft.  This would be a significantly difficult thing to model, though, not so much for the spars up against the shrouds, but for the tacks of the sails being so far outboard in a non-sagging way.

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    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Monday, July 13, 2015 10:32 AM

She looks just great and I really like the furled sail.

On a big lateen boat like that, on a tack the big spar would not switch sides on the mast. The sail just goes over against the mast with little negative effect.

One suggestion if I may and it probably wouldn't be difficult to add on: the furled sail would have a loose clew about half way up the spar, like a triangular tab of sail hanging down a bit, with the sheets attached to it and hanging down.

Really excellent model. Needs to be kid and cat proofed!

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Monday, July 13, 2015 10:49 AM

It occurs to me that sailing this sucker with a lot of sail up would be...interesting with the near total absence of a keel, and a rudder that seems to be designed for looks, not function.

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    May 2003
  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Monday, July 13, 2015 11:45 AM

The big French galleys weren't yachts. They were serious, effective fighting ships. The word "Reale" simply meant that the ship belonged to the king.

It's true that they were awkward to handle under sail. In addition to the problems GM noted, they had scarcely any freeboard; a medium-sized wave could swamp a galley. They were most valuable in the waters close to the Straits of Gibraltar, where the winds are fickle and frequently calm. An enemy ship caught without wind was an ideal target for a big galley. The galley would get on a ramming course for the enemy, and the oarsmen would row for all they were worth. When the galley was within a few yards of the enemy ship, all the big guns in the bow would be fired in one devastating blast. Then the ram would strike the ship in the hull, close to the waterline. That tactic was almost guaranteed to sink the enemy vessel.

France and Spain continued to operate big galleys out of Mediterranean ports well into the eighteenth century. C.S. Forester wrote a story about Midshipman Horatio Hornblower's encounter with a Spanish galley. It's in Mr. Midshipman Hornblower.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Monday, July 13, 2015 11:59 AM

You know the old joke...

Two guys rowing on the bench in a galley.

"Boom", pause..."Boom", pause..."Boom", pause..."Boom", pause..."Boom", pause...

"Mon Dieu I hate this job"

"Boom","Boom","Boom","Boom","Boom","Boom","Boom"..

"Alors, now what?"

"The captain wants to go waterskiing!"

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    March 2014
Posted by kpnuts on Sunday, July 19, 2015 3:50 AM

Hi all a little update on the Reale, I thought I would try to improve the way the rowers handles are depicted.

so, only 29 more to go. I love the way on here you get a little education each time you add to it, thanks it really make the model more interesting, and , since i'm a lazy so and so, saves me doing the research.

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    March 2014
Posted by kpnuts on Thursday, July 23, 2015 2:25 PM

Hi all well here is an update on this build as Gmorrison told me the clew? was missing, I hope I've got it right.

I've added all the cannons now as well.

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    March 2014
Posted by kpnuts on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 2:16 PM

Hi all didn't like the oar handle, too irregular, so browsing the net I found these, they are OO gauge steps (1/87) so near enough.

But as you can see they are too wide

so with my guage 

I whittled them down a bit

cut to length

split

and with a little bit of fettling they will all look the same now

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    March 2014
Posted by kpnuts on Friday, July 31, 2015 2:02 PM

Hi all, well I think I'm on the last leg of this build, this is half way there with the oars

just these left to do

every single oar has this huge seam on it, so, only32 to sort


I really feel this is nearing the end now, once I add the oars it will be huge, no idea what I will do with it when done, I had my warspite dio in the local library, but now thats back due to the library re-utilising the areas and no longer having room for it (a polite way of saying no one was interested in it) so now I've got that back too. argh I have no room.

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    March 2014
Posted by kpnuts on Sunday, August 2, 2015 12:07 PM

Well I am so annoyed I thought I had some oars over and I had finished them but no, stupid idiot there are 32 PAIRS of oars, not 32 oars, now I have to order more of the steps to cut down for the handles, or I display it from one side only.

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, August 2, 2015 12:26 PM

It's worth it. Keep going. This'll be only the second one I've seen built. Going to be a show stopper.

Row, row...

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    March 2014
Posted by kpnuts on Tuesday, August 4, 2015 1:01 PM

Well I've got to do all 64 oars again, I ordered some more ladders to do the handles with ( ordered more than I needed as I could see them being usefull for other things) luckily I ordered the wrong bits.

now when you compare them, I just have to redo all of them

  • Member since
    March 2014
Posted by kpnuts on Thursday, August 6, 2015 2:20 PM

Hi all I've been racking my brains trying to think of a way to do the tassels round the canopy, I cant find any which match the cord I've done the flags on the mast with, so,came up with this.

take a piece of double sided tape and stick it to a piece of paper

tack that each end to a lollipop stick

wind the gold thread round the lollipop stick

Cut along the edge

then glue in place

 

 

 

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, August 6, 2015 3:18 PM

Look at you!

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  • Member since
    March 2014
Posted by kpnuts on Friday, August 7, 2015 3:04 PM
Dun da da da,da its finished
I will post better pics tomorrow but here she is.
I few suggestions for anyone building this, don't glue the trumpets on the angels on the stern till the kit is finished( cant count the number of times I've knocked them off). do not glue the side railings on till the end they were constantly getting in the way making it difficult on numerous occasions, and most annoyingly including the rigging stage, I know you tie some of the rigging off onto it but you could always tie off to the framework some where temporarily.
other than that it is a great kit and all goes together well.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would like to thank everyone for keeping me motivated on this kit, as without you I would have given up at the first hurdle.

  • Member since
    September 2013
  • From: San Antonio, Texas
Posted by Marcus McBean on Friday, August 7, 2015 6:43 PM
She looks wonderful. You did a really fine job, it was great watching it come together these past weeks.
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    March 2014
Posted by kpnuts on Saturday, August 8, 2015 5:30 AM

Hi all here's some better pics

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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    March 2014
Posted by kpnuts on Friday, August 21, 2015 3:21 PM

Hi all can I ask in what way I've done the wrong thing. I had a few followers of this build, and yet now it's finished no one is interested what details have I missed. 

  • Member since
    July 2009
  • From: Jacksonville, Florida
Posted by Vagabond_Astronomer on Friday, August 21, 2015 3:44 PM

Having just returned to the forums, looking at this I think you did a great job. This can be a bear of a kit, or so I've read. Finished model looks good. 

"I have loved the stars too dearly to be fearful of the night..."
  • Member since
    December 2010
  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Friday, August 21, 2015 7:22 PM

It looks absolutely beautiful to me! I must say you are an inspiration to me since, when things went wrong or you miscalculated the # of parts to be used (i.e.: oars), you kept on going and did a bang up job on this remarkable ship.

Thank you for all the pictures and the saga. It certainly gives me more motivation to work hard and enjoy what I do on the modeling bench.

Mike

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

  • Member since
    March 2014
Posted by kpnuts on Friday, September 4, 2015 2:54 PM

Hi all just a quick update,my bosses husband said he would buy the Royal Sovereign but that this was too big was talking to him the other day and mentioned the Greenwich maritime museum said they wanted it but did not have the room, but would I resubmit it next year as they are constantly changing their displays. He told me today he will buy it (no mention of price), what would I ask for I can't keep it for a year, don't have the room (incidentally i told my boss I had got the Airfix Wasa off ebay and she wants me to build that for her. Actually as I was typing this he came up they've both gone for £400.00 I am well chuffed, I'm sure I could have got more but hey, two models out of the way and money for more, still have to finish the Sovriegn, and of course, start a finish the Wasa, I love modeling 

  • Member since
    March 2014
Posted by kpnuts on Sunday, October 11, 2015 4:06 AM

Hi all well getting this one back in a sorry state, went down to feed the birds and empty the bins this morning. Rolf tried to take it to his house in frinton yesterday, didn't even get it out of the hall broke lots of oars off the anchor post lots of railings, a lot of the rigging is slack so he's busted something there as well, he thinks I will just go down with a tube of superglue and stick it all back on, not that simple a lot of the guilding was pulled off when the oars and railings came off so that will have to be redone(a real pain as lots of bits were stuck on after the guilding ) I will take some pics when I get it home.

  • Member since
    March 2009
  • From: brisbane australia
Posted by surfsup on Sunday, October 11, 2015 4:38 AM

YOu have not missed anything. On the other hand it is I who has missed this Thread. Superb work my Friend.....CHeers mark

If i was your wife, i'd poison your tea! If Iwas your husband, I would drink it! WINSTON CHURCHILL

  • Member since
    March 2014
Posted by kpnuts on Monday, October 12, 2015 2:00 PM
Ok so I've reguilded the damaged guilding and the actual damage is not as bad as I feared the worst bit being he broke one of the side arms off and I cant find it anywhere os will have to try and scratch one(those canons are tiny, maybe a stretched sprue or a matchstick in the lathe, it's also now missing one of the flags (which I also cant find) nothing I can do about that so will just touch up the paint where it was snapped off .
here is the damage.

 

  • Member since
    March 2014
Posted by kpnuts on Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:01 PM

Hi all well shes back to her former self (lets see if he breaks it again, I may have to charge next time)

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