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Test Bed: Lindberg's War of Independence Schooner

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 8:34 AM

MIKE !

    How dare thee criticize thy own work ! Thou hast no shame ! That said .Wassa matta You ? Diss a nice job dis is . LOL.LOL.

  MIKE ! you have done the little ship proud . Don't think for one minute you haven't . The ships from way back may not have been correct as models go , but you sized it all up when you said more than once you were having fun ! That , sir , says it all !

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Posted by ALFA on Wednesday, February 9, 2022 12:14 PM
Good morning Mike.
My brother asked me to build that kit for him, because that's not his hobby. However, the kit came to me without instructions. Is it possible to get a copy of the instructions?
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Posted by MR TOM SCHRY on Friday, February 11, 2022 9:10 AM

Hi Mike,

After having built several Lindberg ship kits and with several more in the stash, let me say that I think that you did a great job with this kit.  Sometimes a Lindberg kit is all that exists of a specific vessel and you have to power through with it.  You tried some new modeling techniques and learned a lot, and after all isn't that a big part of this hobby?  Pushing yourself to try new things and to work outside of your comfort zone to improve your modeling skills?  Well done Mike!

 

TJS

TJS

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Posted by goldhammer88 on Friday, February 11, 2022 9:14 AM

ALFA
Good morning Mike.
My brother asked me to build that kit for him, because that's not his hobby. However, the kit came to me without instructions. Is it possible to get a copy of the instructions?
 

 

I doubt that after 7 years he's still got them, unless they're in a dusty file cabinet.

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Posted by ALFA on Friday, February 11, 2022 9:25 AM
Hopefully he does.

I usually break down the boxes so they are flat, with the instructions inside. This way they take up little space and preserve the history.

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Posted by goldhammer88 on Friday, February 11, 2022 10:05 AM

He's still active here, you might get lucky.  He's dealing with some heath issues, so might be awhile before he replies.

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Posted by ALFA on Friday, February 11, 2022 10:13 AM
Thanks for the info. I hope he recovers soon.
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Posted by 1943Mike on Friday, February 11, 2022 11:29 AM

Alfa,

Yesterday I could not reply to your query. Somehow FineScale blocked me from responding ... it was really strainge. I kept getting "Access Denied ......" messages.

This morning however, I'm obviously not constrained by yesterday's gremlins.

I do have the instructions and would be happy to mail them to you. PM me with your address and I'll get them off to you next week.

 

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Friday, February 11, 2022 11:34 AM

Tom,

Thanks for the kind words.

It was fun attempting to "plate" the hull with copper. Not a spectacular success but, as you said, a learning experience.

 

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Friday, February 11, 2022 11:39 AM

goldhammer,

Yep, health issues .. mostly old age Big Smile.

I did have a carotid endarterectomy done on my right carotid artery. It was successful and I'm mostly healed from the December 20th operation. A little swelling remains but should be gone in a few months. No more gunk in that artery although the left one is 50 to 70% blocked. My surgeon told me it's best to just monitor that one for the time being.

Needless to say, no more high cholesterol foods for me!

Best,

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by goldhammer88 on Friday, February 11, 2022 12:16 PM

Nice to hear you're doing better.  Hang in there.

Yeah, age gets us all.  I'm kind of like you, but a little different.  2/3 rds of the left ventricle is complete toast, and I'm at 20-25% EF.  ICD and 3 stents.  When that box goes off, I don't even want to be around.....5 times in 3 1/2 hours back in August.

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Posted by ALFA on Friday, February 11, 2022 2:58 PM
Great news!
Thank you very much Mike.
I'm having trouble sending a private message. As soon as I resolve it, I'll send you my email.
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Posted by goldhammer88 on Friday, February 11, 2022 3:07 PM

Initiating a new PM is not working at this time, hasn't for a couple months

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Posted by ALFA on Friday, February 11, 2022 3:10 PM
Goldhammer88, thanks for the info.
I will look for other alternatives.
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  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Friday, February 11, 2022 5:18 PM

Alfa,

 

 I'll be on the lookout for your response.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by rocketman2000 on Saturday, February 12, 2022 8:22 AM

I have a similar revenue cutter on my temp hold shelf.  It is a real oldy, a Sceintific wood model, hull precarved with just bulwarks and stern needing some cleanup.  The ship is almost identical- must have been a class.

On sail furling on a schooner, I am learning about this myself.  I am doing a scratch Great Lakes topsail schooner I wish to display with furled (red) sails.  This is a three master.  Any chance you could do a photo zooming in on the furled mainsail and boom?

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, February 12, 2022 11:40 AM

rocketman2000
On sail furling on a schooner, I am learning about this myself. I am doing a scratch Great Lakes topsail schooner I wish to display with furled (red) sails.

As John so astutely pointed out, years ago, the distinction will be in fixed versus hoisting gaffs.

 Amerchant vessel only has enough crew to "work" her.  Which suggests against rigged blocks at the jaws and along the gaff. 

The big clippers needed no tackle at the gaf jaws, as they were set in a gooseneck at the mast.  A span wire or tackle supported the end of the gaff.  All of this needed to support the weight of sail, and the sailors who would have to shinny out on the gaff to pass the gaskets that brail up the sail.

Having a bunch of supporting blocks out along the gaff will interfere with those sailors getting out there.  (This then presupposes something not documented well--foot ropes on the gaff--a conundrum of sorts.)

Merchant use suggests "loose footed" sails, so as to not have a boom in the way of cargo handling.  And, also any forward stays, which was much needed with a schooner rig.

For the aftmost sail against gaff, mast, and boom tends to look like a distended "C" shape whing the gaff is standing.  In a hoistable gaff, the sail is puddled down on the boom and the gaff laid over the bundle. 

Typically there is a crutch or brace to support the boom.  Some ships will have a fixed wooden arch with a notch into which the boom is lowered by slacking the topping lifts.

Often, there are two such arches, for and aft.  Which will have spaces for spars to support and in-port caonpy to shade the after house.  On some merchant ships, the life rail stanchions are extended upward to support framing for such a canopy and remain a permanent feature.

This is a strange time of year, with the Soo Locks closed due to ice, so I miss my Ship-spotting.

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