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1/350 Dragon USS Chevalier DD-805 Finished

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Posted by Revenant on Wednesday, February 8, 2017 11:38 AM

I guess that 1/350th scale carrier is next??? The World Wonders...Whistling

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, February 8, 2017 8:31 AM
What a work of art Yes Just beautiful. The rigging and rails will really make it pop.

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Posted by Revenant on Wednesday, February 8, 2017 7:26 AM

fermis

I've gotten about as far as I can with this (aside from rigging...), until my order shows up. 

It kinda boggles my mind that they'd include the tiniest PE details...but no rails. So, I have to wait for my order for rails and chain to show up before I can finish it. In the mean time...

 

 

 

 

Looking good!!!

...hey...aren't those life-rafts supposed to be orange?  

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Posted by fermis on Tuesday, February 7, 2017 11:24 PM

I've gotten about as far as I can with this (aside from rigging...), until my order shows up. 

It kinda boggles my mind that they'd include the tiniest PE details...but no rails. So, I have to wait for my order for rails and chain to show up before I can finish it. In the mean time...

 

 

 

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Posted by fermis on Tuesday, February 7, 2017 11:18 PM

1943Mike

Fermis,

I wish I'd seen this post earlier. I'm sure you're familiar with the two suppliers I'll link here for you but, just in case you'd forgotten, here they are:

Bluejacket:

http://www.bluejacketinc.com/fittings/fittings29.htm

Model Expo:

http://www.modelexpo-online.com/product.asp?ITEMNO=MS0516B

Neither outfit supplies that very realistic looking chain that ejhammer linked in his post but the chain these outfits I've linked supply can come as small as 42 lpi.

 

 

Appreciated...I found some last night and put in an order. ModelExpo was the one I was thinking of, but couldn't remember the name...I get their catalogue from time to time...it's been a while!

 

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Posted by fermis on Tuesday, February 7, 2017 11:16 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
fermis
cuz...guns are black! The bigger guns though...should they be black???

 

LoL

The base platforms for the 40s should be deck color, and the side frames in earest adjacent verticle color.  Recievers on the 40s are usually verticle color; the barrles from the spring bits out are black/charcoal/gunmetal (your pick)  With "steel" flash hider cones.

Pedastal for the 20s in nearest vertical color, as are the frames for the guns.  Guns themselves are dark--balck/charcoal/gunmetal.  The magazines are a dark steel sort of color.  The gunshields are nearest vertical color, frot and back.

For the 5"/38s, you need reference photos.  Most of the barrels wer in nearest vertical color.  But, quite a few were painted in deck color on their upper surfaces.  The dividing line was typically wavy, but is sometimes straight.  You eed referece photos to kow how much of the guhouse top is painted in deck color, sometimes it stops at the radius; sometimes all te way aroud the radius.

Hey, you asked Big Smile

 

I appreciate the info. I got the big guns painted to the refs...I couldn't find any showing the smaller guns (40's)...I'll get those fixed! Wounda been easier before they were mounted to the ship!

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Posted by 1943Mike on Tuesday, February 7, 2017 10:02 PM

Fermis,

I wish I'd seen this post earlier. I'm sure you're familiar with the two suppliers I'll link here for you but, just in case you'd forgotten, here they are:

Bluejacket:

http://www.bluejacketinc.com/fittings/fittings29.htm

Model Expo:

http://www.modelexpo-online.com/product.asp?ITEMNO=MS0516B

Neither outfit supplies that very realistic looking chain that ejhammer linked in his post but the chain these outfits I've linked supply can come as small as 42 lpi.

 

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Tuesday, February 7, 2017 9:41 PM

fermis
cuz...guns are black! The bigger guns though...should they be black???

LoL

The base platforms for the 40s should be deck color, and the side frames in earest adjacent verticle color.  Recievers on the 40s are usually verticle color; the barrles from the spring bits out are black/charcoal/gunmetal (your pick)  With "steel" flash hider cones.

Pedastal for the 20s in nearest vertical color, as are the frames for the guns.  Guns themselves are dark--balck/charcoal/gunmetal.  The magazines are a dark steel sort of color.  The gunshields are nearest vertical color, frot and back.

For the 5"/38s, you need reference photos.  Most of the barrels wer in nearest vertical color.  But, quite a few were painted in deck color on their upper surfaces.  The dividing line was typically wavy, but is sometimes straight.  You eed referece photos to kow how much of the guhouse top is painted in deck color, sometimes it stops at the radius; sometimes all te way aroud the radius.

Hey, you asked Big Smile

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Posted by Revenant on Monday, February 6, 2017 2:30 PM

Gun colors look good.  I love your deck and want to swab it... 

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Posted by fermis on Monday, February 6, 2017 10:09 AM

Spent all of yesterdays bench time adding tiny bits to this ship. I feel like I added 100 pieces, and nothing changed. Very tedious work, especially trying to clean up the snip points. Words, I can not repeat, were spoken.

 

 

Question now...I painted all the guns black....cuz...guns are black! The bigger guns though...should they be black???

 

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Posted by Revenant on Friday, February 3, 2017 3:02 PM

Very nice...

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, February 2, 2017 1:57 PM
Absolutely beautiful job on her fermis! I wish I could be half as good with PE.

Steve

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Posted by ejhammer on Thursday, February 2, 2017 1:56 PM

Don't know. I just liked the realistic "center Bar" links. Aboard ESSEX, the anchor chains had links that were about 24" long or so with those bars. I used the smallest size for my 1/350 carrier models. Just liked the way it came out, although the scale might be off a bit.

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by Revenant on Thursday, February 2, 2017 1:18 PM

fermis

Here's a comparison shot...

 

Looks good to me...I'd just paint it a very dark steel color...no rust...

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Posted by fermis on Thursday, February 2, 2017 12:53 PM

Here's a comparison shot...

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Posted by fermis on Thursday, February 2, 2017 12:47 PM

I picked up the smallest chain I could find (at Michaels)...way too big, compared to the PE stuff.

 

ejhammer

I've used this stuff, 3-d printed. Called "stud link anchor chain. Has the center bar in each link just like the real stuff.

3 sizes, 7 1/2 links / inch, 9 1/2 links / inch, 11 1/2 links / inch.

Came from Floating Drydock.

 

 

I really like this...but even that smallest size looks to be the same size, or close enough...to the stuff I got.

Could it be that the pe is just too small???

 

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Posted by Revenant on Wednesday, February 1, 2017 7:30 PM

MoonBy the time this is posted it will have fallen waaaaaay back in the thread and be useless because I'm being moderated, but I think the colors and walkways look fine.  If they were solid black they would look too harsh...

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Posted by Revenant on Wednesday, February 1, 2017 8:12 AM

ejhammer

I've used this stuff, 3-d printed. Called "stud link anchor chain. Has the center bar in each link just like the real stuff.

3 sizes, 7 1/2 links / inch, 9 1/2 links / inch, 11 1/2 links / inch.

Came from Floating Drydock.

 

 

 

 

Surprise...Verlinden used to put out some different sized chains for armor models...the real fine sizes seemed to be about right for 1/350 scale.  There's a few other companies that also make chains, primarily for armor, but will work for ships as well...

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:56 PM

fermis
I guess, what I need to know is, is there much difference between the darker sides and the deck? In those builds above, I'm not picking up any difference between the sides and deck.

Note that last photo.  There's a stark contrast between deck and horizontal.  The color for the horizontals ought to be as deep and dark as the ocean.

Photos of other builds can be misleading as you never know what camera correction was applied, or if a given monitor is rendering that photo correctly; and that also presumes that the model itself has the contrast--it might, it might not.

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Posted by ejhammer on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 8:39 PM

I've used this stuff, 3-d printed. Called "stud link anchor chain. Has the center bar in each link just like the real stuff.

3 sizes, 7 1/2 links / inch, 9 1/2 links / inch, 11 1/2 links / inch.

Came from Floating Drydock.

 

 

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by steve5 on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 4:10 PM

try your local craft store . or a jewelry shop

 

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Posted by fermis on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 4:05 PM

Revenant

Stick out tongueWow...she's coming together nicely...

...maybe you put em on upside down???

 

I am still curious about it...if that's right or not.

Also...who's got a good go-to source for some anchor chain? The kit comes with some PE "chain"...but it's flat and looks stupid. I'd like to replace it with some real chain. I'd like to get a decent length of it...I have 2 more Destroyers stashed that are gonna need it too.

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Posted by Revenant on Friday, January 27, 2017 10:19 PM

Stick out tongueWow...she's coming together nicely...

...maybe you put em on upside down???

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Posted by fermis on Friday, January 27, 2017 2:31 PM

Decals done.

All the deck walkway decals are black..on the paper...put em on the model and they're purple (???)...the world wonders.

 

 

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Posted by Revenant on Friday, January 27, 2017 9:47 AM

Stick out tongueUpdate please...

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Posted by Revenant on Wednesday, January 25, 2017 7:45 AM

1943Mike

I sympathize with you regarding the time ratio of masking to painting - it's just what one has to deal with when building ships like the ones we're building. In your case you're doing an exceptionally neat job.

 

 

Ditto

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Posted by fermis on Monday, January 23, 2017 11:31 AM

1943Mike

I sympathize with you regarding the time ratio of masking to painting - it's just what one has to deal with when building ships like the ones we're building. In your case you're doing an exceptionally neat job.

 

Prep is a B!+@#...when I was doing paver patios...it could take 3 guys 3 days to prep...I could lay all the pavers (where the money is made) in less than half a day. Even now, seal coating driveways...2-3 hours of prep, for 1/2 an hour of money makin! It's fun to complain about...it's all part of the job.

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Posted by 1943Mike on Monday, January 23, 2017 11:23 AM

I sympathize with you regarding the time ratio of masking to painting - it's just what one has to deal with when building ships like the ones we're building. In your case you're doing an exceptionally neat job.

 

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by Revenant on Monday, January 23, 2017 10:43 AM

Looks good...the base looks smaller with the ship on it...Huh?

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Posted by fermis on Monday, January 23, 2017 9:27 AM

Finally got the gumption to do all the masking and paint the light grey. 3 hours of masking...for 5 minutes of painting [bored] 

 

 

 

 

Nothing but fiddly bits now....

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