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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Friday, February 3, 2017 9:52 AM

John,

I agree.  However, it makes for interesting discussion and speculation!  It is also interesting to contrast the figureheads and transom carvings of the different manufacturers' offerings.  Does anyone know how Zvesda molded theirs? 

I suppose that the best we can do for accuracy is to model the recreation in London. To the best of my knowledge, there have been three replicas built in England. Each differed from the others in their details.  Perhaps the Revell/Heller, Airfix, Zvesda, and/or Imai kits could be modified to reflect all three.

Bill

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, February 3, 2017 10:05 AM

Taking a look at David Ks WIP, 

Imai did the deer. My guess with out looking is that it copies the replica ship. But that's a guess.

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, February 4, 2017 3:28 AM

 

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, February 4, 2017 3:34 AM

 

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, February 4, 2017 3:37 AM

 

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, February 4, 2017 3:40 AM

 

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, February 4, 2017 3:44 AM

I'm really enjoying the build , but gee I have had to to do some sanding etc , to make thing's fit . it's almost like , rough enough is good enough with this kit .

 

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Posted by warshipguy on Saturday, February 4, 2017 7:35 AM

Steve,

That is an interesting paint scheme.  How did you select the colors?

Bill

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, February 4, 2017 1:27 PM

I basially just followed the box art bill , I've still got a bit to do up the bow , I just copied

steve

 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, February 4, 2017 4:29 PM

Probably best to take most of the "history" on this with a grain of salt.

Sailors are a superstitious lot, and back in those days even more so.  Considered very bad luck to change a ship's name at the best of times.  Middle of a successful voyage doubly so.  But, just the sort of thing a person, in Court, might say, after the fact, to impress a courtier-investor.

If we had a way-back machine and could watch Cap'n Drake's ship, I'd not be surprised if she were a weathered gray, iwht darkened (coal black stained or tarred) wales.  Perhaps some well-weathered thin lime whitewash trim, with maybe some blue elements.  And neither firgurehead nor transom carvings at all (perhaps a bas-relief pelican on the trail boards forward).

Now, back to Merry Olde Blighty and successful beyond even Croce's dreams of avarice, she may have been gussied up, the better to be "suitable" for all the royal attention she was given.

I have hugely fond memories of the Revell kit, and have a mental post-it of sorts to put her at a quayside, all weathered and 'honest' pirate to outboard, and being painted up all fancy like on the landward side.  All of which would be an excuse to keep all the carvings, but set them in a sort of context.

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, February 4, 2017 5:40 PM

I would like to see her careened on the beach at Point Reyes....

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, February 5, 2017 2:54 AM

the top part of the main mast , not sure what you call it , was shatered in the box , made a new one out of a tooth pick

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  • From: Western No. Carolina
Posted by gene1 on Sunday, February 5, 2017 10:00 PM

Hi Steve, I leave you alone for a little while & you come up with something beautiful like this. It is really a winner. I had to get off modeling for a short time as I have a lot working on ebay, a drawing, & my wifes eye surgery. I can't wait to get back to some peaceful ships.

    What are your colors on the Hind, I love the tan ship color. I still have an Airfix Hind I want to do. Keep it up, you are super.

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, February 6, 2017 12:20 AM

gene

thank's mate , the colour on the hull is just a copy off of davidk's way of doing a wooden hull , [haven't got it down like his though ] , the other's are just tamiya paint's ,

can't wait to see you back modeling too my friend . I learn a bit of you with each build .

steve

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, February 6, 2017 1:10 AM

steve5

the top part of the main mast , not sure what you call it , was shatered in the box , made a new one out of a tooth pick

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Topgallant mast.

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, February 6, 2017 2:40 AM

thank's mate , I'm slowly learning .

steve

 

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Posted by gene1 on Monday, February 6, 2017 6:33 PM

Steve, there is nothing slow about your learning curve, you are going like a rocket. Your work is really beautiful.  I really mean that as your work is impressive. 

   Ships & model RR have been my favorites forever. Everything else has been a fun fill in.

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Posted by docidle on Monday, February 6, 2017 9:52 PM

Steve,

You are really doing great job on her. I have the original release Revell version in the stash and it is a really nice model. Looking forward to seeing more!

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, February 8, 2017 3:33 AM

thank's steve , can't wait to see you doing her ,

started the rigging , wasn't going to do anything other than glue the sail on , but sigh ! , couldn't help myself . really don't know how these plastic sail's will turn out rigged but here goes .

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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, February 8, 2017 3:35 AM

 

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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, February 8, 2017 3:36 AM

 

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Posted by Staale S on Wednesday, February 8, 2017 8:27 AM

GMorrison
steve5

the top part of the main mast , not sure what you call it , was shatered in the box , made a new one out of a tooth pick

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Flag-pole, methinks.

 

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Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, February 8, 2017 1:36 PM

Take some of your hull weathering to the sails.....Idea

You've done very well...great attention to detail.

Rob

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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, February 8, 2017 8:40 PM

spot-on gmorrisn !

thank's rob , I not real sure how much to weather the sail's , I have already given them a very light spray with tamiya buff , how weathered were they ?? .

 

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Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, February 8, 2017 9:59 PM

Well..my view is...if you apply generous amounts of weathering to the hull to get that old time warn wood look...you need to apply the same reasoning to the sails...be it they need slightly less for a qaulity effect.  May I suggest you experiment with drawing canvas pannels and edging the sails in light brown pencil...even plain #2 pencils work wonders for giving the illusion of sail detail...without appearing gaudy and over done.  Once finished, a thin coat of dull coat or similar sealant will do.  You can even go so far as color in some royal crests or etchings(whatever was appropriate).  Experiment!

Nice work.

Rob

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, February 9, 2017 1:47 PM

Do a test with whatever dull coat you like on #2 pencil. Sometimes it makes it run.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, February 9, 2017 2:11 PM

Indeed...if applied too heavely.  Any treatment applied via aerosal will contain solvents.

An exercise in moderation is welcome.  Still.. sail detail would make the project *POP*. IMV.

Rob 

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Posted by steve5 on Thursday, February 9, 2017 3:42 PM

not sure how far to go with this rob , I've put a light coat of a yellow wash over it , as cotton would yellow I think with age , with the pencil ,I take it you mean a soft one , here we have h - hard , b -soft .you would be using the pencil to give definition to the creases , does that sound right .

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, February 9, 2017 4:05 PM

rwiederrich

Indeed...if applied too heavely.  Any treatment applied via aerosal will contain solvents.

An exercise in moderation is welcome.  Still.. sail detail would make the project *POP*. IMV.

Rob 

 

Surely. My comment is only that you test it.

If you are familiar with older aircraft models, they had what are referred to as raised panel lines, as opposed to recessed panel lines. A nice way to highlight them a little was to carefully run a sharp pencil along one side. Hence my own experience with thick coats of dulkote making it run.

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