Revell 1:450 Victory Finished

Would love to see the Victory!

Looking good Don! Way too small for me!

Famously, the Charles W. Morgan had painted gunports, but only in the very last years of her service. 

The idea there would be to ward off pirates or other malcontents in far off waters, but not to appear to be a capable warship.

Don, I can certainly see where at 1/450 that would be quite a challenge.

From what I've read, the whole point was to be able to signal intention over a distance. Much like how in nature animals use their colours to signal hostility. If the gunports are painted black, then it looks as if the ship is constantly in battle mode. As I understand it, whaling ships painted a white line with black squares along the hull to make seem as if the ship was armed. But surely anybody would've known that a ship of Victory's size was going to be armed to the teeth, why fake it with paint??? Signalling intention could be used in all sorts of ways to either bluff the enemy, or to let nearby ports know that no harm is intended. Here's a little diagram I just knocked together in Photoshop to illustrate my point.

Flint

I was under the impression that the gun ports should be ochre anyway (ochre on top, black underneath). I don't know why they're painted black on the ship these days. I thought the whole point of the Nelson chequer was that when the gun ports were closed (just showing stripes) it signalled no intention of battle (handy in friendly waters) and that when the gun ports were open it reveled the 'chequer' pattern, and the intention of conflict. No? 

this is going to be a really nice model don , 6" long , you must have a really steady hand mate .

steve5

Got all the sails attached to masts, and mast pre-rigged with rigging on upper sections.  Also got the bowsprit and jib boom assembly in place. I will do some rigging on the jib/bowsprit area before I put the masts in hull.

JurS

That is a nice little model you are making, Don. How big is it, or rather, how small is it?

I live in the south of England and I'm planning to go to Portsmouth this Friday, to see the Naval Dockyard and go aboard HMS Victory. I have been once before, many years ago, time to renew the acquaintance.

 

The hull is six inches long.  Haven't measured it with bow sprit in place. 

BTW, as displayed now the ship has black gunports.  I fear painting those, so I have found in other eras it had the ports the same color as the ochre stripes, so that is the livery I have chosen.

You'll keep going for a long time Don, take it from somene that knows. Model building really does give you a shove. I think the PE shrouds look great & if 227' divide by 450 is only 6" that is a little boat & a super build. How long is the hull alone?

   You said you use Postimage? It looks great & I finallgot my Whaler pictures to print.  Building these things does keep you happy for a long time, I'm hoping for at least 90. I run up & down the stairs to build models at least 6 or 8 time a day.

That's looking good Don. The PE shrouds look pretty good. Look forward to seeing this finished. 

That is a nice little model you are making, Don. How big is it, or rather, how small is it?

I live in the south of England and I'm planning to go to Portsmouth this Friday, to see the Naval Dockyard and go aboard HMS Victory. I have been once before, many years ago, time to renew the acquaintance.

gene1

Don, that is really a little beauty. I might have to try one, but I am kit heavy right now for nearly 88. Have you heard anything from BILL, warship guy, ? 

                                              Gene

 

No, I haven't.

BTW, I also have a pretty good stash of ship kits.  However, as age bothers my manual dexterity (cataract surgery fixed my eyes), I figured I'd better adapt the old philosopy of use it or loose it.  I used to love those old Heller and Airfix 1:600 kits, and have a couple of those in the stash.  But when I saw this 1:450 kit, I thought it might be a way to ease back into smaller scale without going bonkers.

really nice job on this build don . the PE look's pretty good .

I haven't heard from bill in age's either gene .

steve5

Don, that is really a little beauty. I might have to try one, but I am kit heavy right now for nearly 88. Have you heard anything from BILL, warship guy, ? 

                                              Gene

Here is the mainmast, with the plastic sails, ready to mount into the hull.  Note the Atlantic Models PE shrouds and ratlines.

There are little pegs on the masts that are supposed to fit intobosses with holes molded into the sails.  The peg for the topsails, however, are out of place on each of the three sets of sails.  I just filed off the peg, filed the yard clean of paint and glued the yard right to the boss.  The pegs for the mainsail and the gallant were in the right spot and did mount pretty well.

gene1

Don, it looks great & your painting is greater. I am fired up on Victory's & bought another Airfix the other day. I think it was you that reminded me to coat the edge of my masking tape with, I use clear testors lacquer. I used to do that all the time, but forgot about it. 

   Did you mask it? Or are your hands still steady?

 

 

I masked for the black stripes along the hull, but that is all.  The deck details were all handpainted, as is all the fancy work at bow and stern.  I also use the point of a double-ended sharp toothpick to do the finest detail, and used a black wash over windows on the galleries.

Don, it looks great & your painting is greater. I am fired up on Victory's & bought another Airfix the other day. I think it was you that reminded me to coat the edge of my masking tape with, I use clear testors lacquer. I used to do that all the time, but forgot about it. 

   Did you mask it? Or are your hands still steady?

got the hull together now.  The two halves of the main deck did not meet, leaving a big crack visible.  There are a bunch of boats that are stowed above, so I am hoping the crack will not be that visible. I'll test fit them and see how it looks.

Boy, there is a tremendous amount of brush painting on this thing.  Only airbrushing was a main coat of ochre on the hull and masts and beige on upper decks.  All black and dark brown is hand paint.  Using toothpick point for much of the really fine painting.

Don - Nicely done so far. I found it really difficult to work with on a 1:350 scale ship, so I am amazed with someone who works in smaller scales. Compliments to the chef!!!