Lindberg Shrimp Boat

CapnMac82

Well, I was curious what a giggle Image search might turn up.

This seems to support the hatch being several panels that lift out of framing.

This is much more modern, and shows individual covers

Not much else out there in image search.

 

Thanks.  That confirms that raising the winch a bit will be an okay solution.

Well, I was curious what a giggle Image search might turn up.

This seems to support the hatch being several panels that lift out of framing.

This is much more modern, and shows individual covers

Not much else out there in image search.

I think thats a good idea, also because what's there is wimpy. I've looked at a bunch of seiners over the years. Those big net handling winches usually sit on pretty good sized timbers.

I have decided to merely make a base to raise the winch a bit so it will fit.  Not realizing the tight fit, I had mounted the spools so that some of the handles point downward a bit, causing interference with the hatch.  I'll have to raise the winch by about a scale 15 inches.

Here are a couple of photos to explain my previous post.

Winch stand with hatch in place.

Winch stand with hatch ajar.

You can easily see that there is plenty of room to allow the hatch to be installed and removed.
Again, the question remains is the hatch supposed to hinge? If so, there is not enough clearance to rotate past the winch pulley (part #50). The bullet shape of parts #49 could be filed down flat to allow clearance past them.

I think the hatch cover gets removed in a couple of pieces and stowed out of the way. I can see no reason to hinge it.

I realize that with the deck installed, this is hard.

Could you  cut out the hatch coaming and a section of deck the width of that and a couple of feet long aft of it, them flip the whole thing around? All the cuts would hopefully be hidden under the winch.

Hi Don 

    I looked at my unbuilt one .You are right , But if you move the mast tothe rear bulkhead of the deckhouse The Winch should fit okay . I don't remember any problems with mine .I will dry fit these parts and see if I can be any help .  T.B.

Don,
You piqued my interest, so, I went to look at my kit even though I haven't gotten so far as assembling the winch controls.

I think the question one is going to have to ask is, Is the hatch supposed to hinge open or it supposed to just lift off? The only thing I know about shrimp boats is that they float, so, I don't know the correct answer. 

I did some test fitting with the winch parts. From what I see, the winch stand sits up a bit, enough that if the hatch is supposed to just lift off, there will be no problem doing that.

The problem looks to be if the hatch is supposed to hinge up. Clearance is tight, but, the bullet shaped controls could be filed down to make room without getting to the handles. The big problem is the winch pulley, it sticks way out. I can't think of a way around that one right now and it is too late at night to puzzle over it.

Another idea, I see in an RC boat forum, is to set the winch up a bit on blocks so that it overhangs the hatch but clears it.

Hi,

I had to look up some other build to see what you mean, but from the looks of it I guess that either what you suggest (shortening the hatch) or what GMorrison suggests (trying to move the mast) would seem to make th emost sense.

I guess a 3rd optiojn could maybe be to try and make a smaller winch though that may be difficult.

Pat

Well, the other option would seem to be to crunch the mast forward against the back of the cabin.

Looking at your original posts, there's a hole for that, and a hole to the right of it. Do they have anything to do with each other.

Big problem!.. First major one of the build.  There is a winch that mounts on the deck.  It goes between the mast and a big hatch- call it the main hatch.  But there is not room for it.  There are mounting pads on the deck.  But it will not fit there. If it is installed as shown on the plans, the controls of the winch interfere with that hatch.  If I turn it around, it interferes with the mast.  Even if I were to chop into things and mount it as shown on plans, the crew could never open that hatch!  There is just not room between mast and hatch where the pads are.  If I did mount it elsewhere on deck, those mounting pads would still be there on the deck.  Not sure what to do.  Only fix I can think of is to remake the hatch, making it shorter, and modify the deck- a major fix since deck is already glued into hull :-(

There are a lot of green photos out there:

But, I see what you mean about the red:

BigJim

Thanks Don, I'll check them out. BTW, did they happen to have the mesh in green?

Search for: "A Guide to Oregon's Commercial Fishing Vessels"

This may be helpful to you. I can't provide a link as when I click on the sight it automatically downloads.

 

They had it in a number of colors- forget which ones.  However, all the colors were highly saturated.  The pictures I have found so far seem to show nets a dirty brownish red.  I will check your reference.

Tanker - Builder

 

 The joining edges are real weird . I had better luck with the Russian release of the " Shell Welder " . An old kit indeed .Mine was bought used .Imagine my surprise when I found P.E. From Atlantic Models . Both in the Plain Brass and Painted grey !

 

 

Love that Shell Welder!  I build mine a number of years ago.  I was looking at it recently and decided I did not weather it enough.  I plan to clean up the model and redo the weathering (unless I find another kit of it somewhere soon).

Bubba Gump Shrimp...

Looks good, Don.

Thanks Don, I'll check them out. BTW, did they happen to have the mesh in green?

Search for: "A Guide to Oregon's Commercial Fishing Vessels"

This may be helpful to you. I can't provide a link as when I click on the sight it automatically downloads.

Don ;

 You could make it work . Isn't it great what you find in that place? On that Owens Cruiser, The bottom contours are way off . I had to beef up the hulls with Large plastic square rod and then Load them up with  Sprue Glue so there was enough " Meat " to correct the hull .

 The joining edges are real weird . I had better luck with the Russian release of the " Shell Welder " . An old kit indeed .Mine was bought used .Imagine my surprise when I found P.E. From Atlantic Models . Both in the Plain Brass and Painted grey !

 The model is a dog .But , there's enough " meat " to make ALL the corrections needed to make her a real Jewel in anyone's collection .The Owens on the other hand has taken me a year . It's not done yet ! Now Lindberg did do , as I said, a nice 30' Chris day or Express cruiser . Builds really nice if you are careful .

 I once built for a client the Lindberg Large Sport Fisherman model .Funny model there . Why ? Well the sharp detail is on the inside of the hull . It's like they did a male with the detail and pulled the plastic over it ( The Hull is Vacuformed ) thereby putting all the good stuff on the inside !     T.B.

BigJim

Don,
I have one of these and would like to show the nets, at least in a very simple way if possible. Any ideas on how to do that?

 

Yep.  I went to Hobby Lobby and their fabric section.  Told the person there what I was looking for, and and she showed me just what I was looking for, a net or lace fabric. I chose a red, but it is too saturated in color.  I am going to try staining it in tea or coffee to brown up the color.  I figure I need about a foot square.  Fabric came in four foot wide- got enough for four tries.  I have no idea how well it will work, but I will keep folks up to date as I work on net and rigging.  Most photos I found of shrimp boats on Google Images have a single net showing.  I figure to cut a square, and gather it together at corners, then dip it in water to shape it hanging.  I will then try to add some thinned white glue to hold shape.  As I say, I have no idea how well it will work, but I'll keep experimenting.

 By the way, the four square feet of fabric netting cost me sixty cents!

don't know how I missed this don , really nice work .

BigJim

Don,
I have one of these and would like to show the nets, at least in a very simple way if possible. Any ideas on how to do that?

 

Don, You really do some neat kits. I am anxious to see it weathered. I really loved your little Victory. Beautiful model. 

Don,
I have one of these and would like to show the nets, at least in a very simple way if possible. Any ideas on how to do that?

Tanker - Builder

Bill :

 Have you ever figured why I have built a bunch of them ? I can't keep My mind out of the experimenting stage with these cheapies ( as model ships go today). Conversions are a lot of fun . For me at least . I spent so much time in boatyards as a kid I saw a lot , so a lot ( give or take some detail ) ) goes into the conversion genre .

 Besides , given it's Lindberg I like taking a Blah model and making it shine ( Making a Silk Purse out of a Sow's Ear -so to speak !)  Life-Like and Lindberg wer Not rhe worst . The two models of the small boats ( an Owens and a Chris -Craft ) were originally put out by Renwal I believe . Lindberg Did Nothing to correct these almost unbuildable models . It's a shame too . Lindberg's little 36' ,Chris-Craft , Day Cruiser was fairly good .Notice I said fairly ! T.B. 

 

A couple of the annual contests I attend in the area do occasionally have an award for the best Silk Purse out of a Sow's Ear model.  Also, TB, I just recently bought one of those Lindberg Owens cruiser kits.

CapnMac82

 

 

Don Stauffer

Added radio on shelf

 

 

Ok, that gave me a LoL.

Never seen a shrimper with only one radio.  Even Viet-owned ones.

There's always a dedicated unit on NWS, a Marine VHF, usually an HF, and at dead minumum, a dedicated marine radio phone set.  Anything in the last 20 years will have a satphone set, too. 

Probably ought have a GPS unit, too.  And, typically, two depth sounders.  And at least one nav radar.

Depending upon the era, those boxes run from the small to the size of a microwave.

Oh, and a coffee pot

All of which would be hard to jam into that very nice pilothouse you have built.

 

Yeah, I had intended to add a few more details, but that is a really small bridge.  I had intended a chart table with a chart of some Louisiana area, but not enough room.  I have never been aboard a real shrimp boat, so I was guessing on what might be on the bridge.

Bill :

 Have you ever figured why I have built a bunch of them ? I can't keep My mind out of the experimenting stage with these cheapies ( as model ships go today). Conversions are a lot of fun . For me at least . I spent so much time in boatyards as a kid I saw a lot , so a lot ( give or take some detail ) ) goes into the conversion genre .

 Besides , given it's Lindberg I like taking a Blah model and making it shine ( Making a Silk Purse out of a Sow's Ear -so to speak !)  Life-Like and Lindberg were Not rhe worst . The two models of the small boats ( an Owens and a Chris -Craft ) were originally put out by Renwal I believe . Lindberg Did Nothing to correct these almost unbuildable models . It's a shame too . Lindberg's little 36' ,Chris-Craft , Day Cruiser was fairly good .Notice I said fairly ! T.B. 

Don Stauffer

Added radio on shelf

Ok, that gave me a LoL.

Never seen a shrimper with only one radio.  Even Viet-owned ones.

There's always a dedicated unit on NWS, a Marine VHF, usually an HF, and at dead minumum, a dedicated marine radio phone set.  Anything in the last 20 years will have a satphone set, too. 

Probably ought have a GPS unit, too.  And, typically, two depth sounders.  And at least one nav radar.

Depending upon the era, those boxes run from the small to the size of a microwave.

Oh, and a coffee pot

All of which would be hard to jam into that very nice pilothouse you have built.

C'Mon Don ! 

        "Times awastin " You only have a limited time on the Shrimp Grounds ( You know , Govt.Regs . )  Lookin good so far .I did my last one with the lines for the planking sanded off till it was barely visible .A little wash and did she look like a working boat !

    200 grit sandpaper to break up the surface and abrade the wood in areas where pots and lines are constantly abrading the wood . Make sure you make her dirty ! After the first year even a " Steelie " looks worn out ! T.B.     P.S. When Uncle Joe in 1956 , had the " Santa Marianna . A modern ( Then ) "Tuna Clipper ." within three voyages she looked twenty years old . Oh ,  and Lindberg makes that one too ! Ah ,Good old - "Life-Like "Kits  ! !  P.P.S. The Shrimpers of wood, I remember from that time period , did not have a watertight Door between the rest of the cabin and the " Wheelhouse "

Adding detail to the bridge.  Came with wheel and helmsman.  I added rear wall (with door) to separate bridge from rest of cabin.  Added radio on shelf and engine control

Hull is done with painting (weathering later).  Cabin is just about ready to add on.

I like seeing odd types being built and not ofetn to see a Trawler. Watching with interest.....Cheers Mark