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Lindberg Shrimp Boat
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 1:35 PM

Just about done with the Clarmont, and starting another Lindberg ship kit, their 1:60 Shrimp boat.

Here I have the hull sides glued together and the deck painted.

 

Then, gluing deck inside hull.

The kit depicts a wooden hull boat, with raised lines representing the plank edges.  I wanted to weather this boat into a real rust bucket, which means a steel hull.  So I had to remove all those raised lines deliniating the planks.  I scraped them off, instead of sanding, holding my X-acto knife nearly perpendicular to the surface and pulling it along.  May need a bit more sanding and another coat of paint.

One thing I really like about these old Lindberg ship kits in larger scale, they all come with figures!

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by GAF on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 1:43 PM

Very neat, Don!  I was just looking at this and one of their Coast Guard cutters today.

Both for $10.00, so not something that would break the bank.  Just not sure when I could get around to building them!

Gary

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Posted by ejhammer on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 2:10 PM
Nice. I might get one too. EJ

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 2:40 PM

I think Tanker Builder has built a bunch of them.

Ahem, I never much cared for Lindberg kits, and recent experience has sure reinforced that.

I took two Q ship kits and spliced the hulls together to get a fair little banana boat freighter, but everything else in the boxes, wasn't even good for the spares box.

I recently bought the USS Manchester, a 1/600 Cleveland Class CA. It was reissued under a bunch of names as there were 27 ships in the Class, and they can go for a lot of money if older. Luckily I paid only $ 5, so that's all I wasted. Just a terrible kit.

Fright built up a neat lightship, but it took a master's skills.

OTOH, the Revell Snowberry, Fireboat and America are all pretty nice kits.

Interested to see this one. A challenge no doubt.

 

Bill

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Posted by ejhammer on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 2:55 PM

I know what you mean. Just finished a Round Two Lindberg repop of the kennebeck Tanker. Pretty plain Jane but was fun to work out the issues. Built it as the MATTAPONI AO41 for a buddy that served on her on the 60's. Turned out OK. I gotta update the build on this site.

EJ

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, February 27, 2019 9:21 AM

GMorrison

I think Tanker Builder has built a bunch of them.

Ahem, I never much cared for Lindberg kits, and recent experience has sure reinforced that.

I took two Q ship kits and spliced the hulls together to get a fair little banana boat freighter, but everything else in the boxes, wasn't even good for the spares box.

 

I believe those Q-ship kits were based on a government developed plan, and built in quantity by shipyards across the St. Lawrence seaway.  Some went to saltwater, some stayed in Great Lakes (design was overproduced, not as many needed for war as they thought).  I am building the kit as a design that was sold to a GL shipping firm after war, the famous Poker Fleet.  Turns out what I thought would be a simple conversion is a lot more work than I thought, so is on shelf for awhile.  Don't know whether or not that design was ever really used as a Q-ship or not.

 

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by domer94 on Thursday, February 28, 2019 5:20 PM
have been tempted by this one. looks like a cool kit that can give some weathering practice. will be watching!
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Posted by surfsup on Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:13 PM

I like seeing odd types being built and not ofetn to see a Trawler. Watching with interest.....Cheers Mark

If i was your wife, i'd poison your tea! If Iwas your husband, I would drink it! WINSTON CHURCHILL

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, March 03, 2019 1:36 PM

Adding detail to the bridge.  Came with wheel and helmsman.  I added rear wall (with door) to separate bridge from rest of cabin.  Added radio on shelf and engine control

 

Hull is done with painting (weathering later).  Cabin is just about ready to add on.

 

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Sunday, March 03, 2019 1:49 PM

C'Mon Don ! 

        "Times awastin " You only have a limited time on the Shrimp Grounds ( You know , Govt.Regs . )  Lookin good so far .I did my last one with the lines for the planking sanded off till it was barely visible .A little wash and did she look like a working boat !

    200 grit sandpaper to break up the surface and abrade the wood in areas where pots and lines are constantly abrading the wood . Make sure you make her dirty ! After the first year even a " Steelie " looks worn out ! T.B.     P.S. When Uncle Joe in 1956 , had the " Santa Marianna . A modern ( Then ) "Tuna Clipper ." within three voyages she looked twenty years old . Oh ,  and Lindberg makes that one too ! Ah ,Good old - "Life-Like "Kits  ! !  P.P.S. The Shrimpers of wood, I remember from that time period , did not have a watertight Door between the rest of the cabin and the " Wheelhouse "

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, March 03, 2019 1:54 PM

Don Stauffer
Added radio on shelf

Ok, that gave me a LoL.

Never seen a shrimper with only one radio.  Even Viet-owned ones.

There's always a dedicated unit on NWS, a Marine VHF, usually an HF, and at dead minumum, a dedicated marine radio phone set.  Anything in the last 20 years will have a satphone set, too. 

Probably ought have a GPS unit, too.  And, typically, two depth sounders.  And at least one nav radar.

Depending upon the era, those boxes run from the small to the size of a microwave.

Oh, and a coffee pot Smile

All of which would be hard to jam into that very nice pilothouse you have built.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Sunday, March 03, 2019 1:56 PM

Bill :

 Have you ever figured why I have built a bunch of them ? I can't keep My mind out of the experimenting stage with these cheapies ( as model ships go today). Conversions are a lot of fun . For me at least . I spent so much time in boatyards as a kid I saw a lot , so a lot ( give or take some detail ) ) goes into the conversion genre .

 Besides , given it's Lindberg I like taking a Blah model and making it shine ( Making a Silk Purse out of a Sow's Ear -so to speak !)  Life-Like and Lindberg were Not rhe worst . The two models of the small boats ( an Owens and a Chris -Craft ) were originally put out by Renwal I believe . Lindberg Did Nothing to correct these almost unbuildable models . It's a shame too . Lindberg's little 36' ,Chris-Craft , Day Cruiser was fairly good .Notice I said fairly ! T.B. 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, March 04, 2019 9:11 AM

CapnMac82

 

 
Don Stauffer
Added radio on shelf

 

Ok, that gave me a LoL.

Never seen a shrimper with only one radio.  Even Viet-owned ones.

There's always a dedicated unit on NWS, a Marine VHF, usually an HF, and at dead minumum, a dedicated marine radio phone set.  Anything in the last 20 years will have a satphone set, too. 

Probably ought have a GPS unit, too.  And, typically, two depth sounders.  And at least one nav radar.

Depending upon the era, those boxes run from the small to the size of a microwave.

Oh, and a coffee pot Smile

All of which would be hard to jam into that very nice pilothouse you have built.

 

Yeah, I had intended to add a few more details, but that is a really small bridge.  I had intended a chart table with a chart of some Louisiana area, but not enough room.  I have never been aboard a real shrimp boat, so I was guessing on what might be on the bridge.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, March 04, 2019 9:14 AM

Tanker - Builder

Bill :

 Have you ever figured why I have built a bunch of them ? I can't keep My mind out of the experimenting stage with these cheapies ( as model ships go today). Conversions are a lot of fun . For me at least . I spent so much time in boatyards as a kid I saw a lot , so a lot ( give or take some detail ) ) goes into the conversion genre .

 Besides , given it's Lindberg I like taking a Blah model and making it shine ( Making a Silk Purse out of a Sow's Ear -so to speak !)  Life-Like and Lindberg wer Not rhe worst . The two models of the small boats ( an Owens and a Chris -Craft ) were originally put out by Renwal I believe . Lindberg Did Nothing to correct these almost unbuildable models . It's a shame too . Lindberg's little 36' ,Chris-Craft , Day Cruiser was fairly good .Notice I said fairly ! T.B. 

 

A couple of the annual contests I attend in the area do occasionally have an award for the best Silk Purse out of a Sow's Ear model.  Also, TB, I just recently bought one of those Lindberg Owens cruiser kits.

 

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by BigJim on Monday, March 04, 2019 11:40 AM

Don,
I have one of these and would like to show the nets, at least in a very simple way if possible. Any ideas on how to do that?

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Posted by gene1 on Monday, March 04, 2019 12:18 PM

Don, You really do some neat kits. I am anxious to see it weathered. I really loved your little Victory. Beautiful model. 

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, March 04, 2019 12:46 PM

BigJim

Don,
I have one of these and would like to show the nets, at least in a very simple way if possible. Any ideas on how to do that?

 

Good question. My own thought for a purse seine boat that's on again/ off again on my SOD is disposable food service hairnets, which even have a bead around the edge. I think if they were rolled up right it might be convincing. Problem is the come in packs of 100.  Might have to raid the school cafeteria.

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Posted by steve5 on Tuesday, March 05, 2019 12:42 AM

don't know how I missed this don , really nice work .

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, March 05, 2019 12:53 PM

BigJim

Don,
I have one of these and would like to show the nets, at least in a very simple way if possible. Any ideas on how to do that?

 

Yep.  I went to Hobby Lobby and their fabric section.  Told the person there what I was looking for, and and she showed me just what I was looking for, a net or lace fabric. I chose a red, but it is too saturated in color.  I am going to try staining it in tea or coffee to brown up the color.  I figure I need about a foot square.  Fabric came in four foot wide- got enough for four tries.  I have no idea how well it will work, but I will keep folks up to date as I work on net and rigging.  Most photos I found of shrimp boats on Google Images have a single net showing.  I figure to cut a square, and gather it together at corners, then dip it in water to shape it hanging.  I will then try to add some thinned white glue to hold shape.  As I say, I have no idea how well it will work, but I'll keep experimenting.

 By the way, the four square feet of fabric netting cost me sixty cents!

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Tuesday, March 05, 2019 2:55 PM

Don ;

 You could make it work . Isn't it great what you find in that place? On that Owens Cruiser, The bottom contours are way off . I had to beef up the hulls with Large plastic square rod and then Load them up with  Sprue Glue so there was enough " Meat " to correct the hull .

 The joining edges are real weird . I had better luck with the Russian release of the " Shell Welder " . An old kit indeed .Mine was bought used .Imagine my surprise when I found P.E. From Atlantic Models . Both in the Plain Brass and Painted grey !

 The model is a dog .But , there's enough " meat " to make ALL the corrections needed to make her a real Jewel in anyone's collection .The Owens on the other hand has taken me a year . It's not done yet ! Now Lindberg did do , as I said, a nice 30' Chris day or Express cruiser . Builds really nice if you are careful .

 I once built for a client the Lindberg Large Sport Fisherman model .Funny model there . Why ? Well the sharp detail is on the inside of the hull . It's like they did a male with the detail and pulled the plastic over it ( The Hull is Vacuformed ) thereby putting all the good stuff on the inside !     T.B.

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Posted by BigJim on Tuesday, March 05, 2019 9:57 PM

Thanks Don, I'll check them out. BTW, did they happen to have the mesh in green?

Search for: "A Guide to Oregon's Commercial Fishing Vessels"

This may be helpful to you. I can't provide a link as when I click on the sight it automatically downloads.

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, March 05, 2019 11:59 PM

Bubba Gump Shrimp...

Looks good, Don.

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, March 06, 2019 8:54 AM

Tanker - Builder

 

 The joining edges are real weird . I had better luck with the Russian release of the " Shell Welder " . An old kit indeed .Mine was bought used .Imagine my surprise when I found P.E. From Atlantic Models . Both in the Plain Brass and Painted grey !

 

 

Love that Shell Welder!  I build mine a number of years ago.  I was looking at it recently and decided I did not weather it enough.  I plan to clean up the model and redo the weathering (unless I find another kit of it somewhere soon).

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, March 06, 2019 8:59 AM

BigJim

Thanks Don, I'll check them out. BTW, did they happen to have the mesh in green?

Search for: "A Guide to Oregon's Commercial Fishing Vessels"

This may be helpful to you. I can't provide a link as when I click on the sight it automatically downloads.

 

They had it in a number of colors- forget which ones.  However, all the colors were highly saturated.  The pictures I have found so far seem to show nets a dirty brownish red.  I will check your reference.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by BigJim on Wednesday, March 06, 2019 11:28 AM

There are a lot of green photos out there:

But, I see what you mean about the red:

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, March 07, 2019 10:15 AM

Big problem!.. First major one of the build.  There is a winch that mounts on the deck.  It goes between the mast and a big hatch- call it the main hatch.  But there is not room for it.  There are mounting pads on the deck.  But it will not fit there. If it is installed as shown on the plans, the controls of the winch interfere with that hatch.  If I turn it around, it interferes with the mast.  Even if I were to chop into things and mount it as shown on plans, the crew could never open that hatch!  There is just not room between mast and hatch where the pads are.  If I did mount it elsewhere on deck, those mounting pads would still be there on the deck.  Not sure what to do.  Only fix I can think of is to remake the hatch, making it shorter, and modify the deck- a major fix since deck is already glued into hull :-(

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, March 07, 2019 11:33 AM

Well, the other option would seem to be to crunch the mast forward against the back of the cabin.

Looking at your original posts, there's a hole for that, and a hole to the right of it. Do they have anything to do with each other.

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Posted by PFJN on Thursday, March 07, 2019 3:14 PM

Hi,

I had to look up some other build to see what you mean, but from the looks of it I guess that either what you suggest (shortening the hatch) or what GMorrison suggests (trying to move the mast) would seem to make th emost sense.

I guess a 3rd optiojn could maybe be to try and make a smaller winch though that may be difficult.

Pat

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, March 07, 2019 3:36 PM

Another idea, I see in an RC boat forum, is to set the winch up a bit on blocks so that it overhangs the hatch but clears it.

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Posted by BigJim on Thursday, March 07, 2019 7:12 PM

Don,
You piqued my interest, so, I went to look at my kit even though I haven't gotten so far as assembling the winch controls.

I think the question one is going to have to ask is, Is the hatch supposed to hinge open or it supposed to just lift off? The only thing I know about shrimp boats is that they float, so, I don't know the correct answer. 

I did some test fitting with the winch parts. From what I see, the winch stand sits up a bit, enough that if the hatch is supposed to just lift off, there will be no problem doing that.

The problem looks to be if the hatch is supposed to hinge up. Clearance is tight, but, the bullet shaped controls could be filed down to make room without getting to the handles. The big problem is the winch pulley, it sticks way out. I can't think of a way around that one right now and it is too late at night to puzzle over it.

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