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Revell 1/96 USS Kearsarge

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  • Member since
    December 2010
  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Monday, May 10, 2021 10:19 AM

Don,

I'll keep an eye out for it.

As to draping the sides with chains .... "ungentlemanly"? LOL!

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, May 10, 2021 7:31 AM

1943Mike

Thanks Don.

Although I'm not as interested in the Civil War configuration of the USS Kearsarge as I am its later livery, I appreciate the info.

His name, BTW, was Raphael Semmes.

There are lots of sites with information regarding that battle. For anyone interested, here are a few links:

https://www.essentialcivilwarcurriculum.com/raphael-semmes-and-the-css-alabama.html

https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/c/capt-semmes-css-alabama.html

https://sites.google.com/site/290foundation/history/alabama-v-kearsarge

https://mds.marshall.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1003&context=css_al

Don, I believe this is the book to which you refer:

https://www.amazon.com/Memoirs-Service-Afloat-During-Between/dp/1540331172

 

Nope, it was a short title, something like Cruiser Alabama or similar.  He claims the Captain of the Kearsarge cheated by draping sides with chains- ungentlemanly.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Member since
    December 2010
  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Sunday, May 9, 2021 9:54 PM

Bob,

Thanks for the link.

As I said, I'll not be doing much beyond what's in the box other than some blocks and rigging line I have on hand. I'm trying to keep this build simple ... not necessarily historically accurate and the armament I am pretty sure will not be so.

I do want it to look respectable as a model so I'll try not to screw up too much.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

  • Member since
    December 2010
  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Sunday, May 9, 2021 9:48 PM

CapnMac82,

Thanks for the information.

What are "deck races"? Are they the flat track areas on the deck which the mounts for the cannon would roll to position? Sorry, I can't find "deck races" in my "Seamanship In The Age Of Sail" by John Harland. It didn't come up in a cursory search on the 'Net. My ignorance of things nautical is showing again.

I plan to avoid as many "rabbitholes" as I can Big Smile. I will use what the kit offers by way of cannon. As you suggest, just too many variables otherwise. I'm following the KISS philosophy on this build.

I have now painted the coppered hull a shade of gold and then given it a wash of grime to tone down the shine. I thought about a little green - I'll have to think about that a little more but I'm more or less satisfied with what I've done today.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

  • Member since
    March 2018
  • From: Chicago suburbs
Posted by Luvspinball on Sunday, May 9, 2021 7:27 PM

HiSModels carries a photoetch set and flags for the Kearsarge.

https://www.hismodel.com/articles-category-24

Also sails and such, but you said you didn't need any of those.

Bob

Bob Frysztak

Luvspinball

Current builds:  Revell 1/96 USS Constitution with extensive scratch building

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    November 2005
  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, May 9, 2021 6:29 PM

Before the fire, the Muntz on Cutty Sark was a gold color, whashed with a hint of copper and bronze.

A modeler could legitimately apply rather a lot of green "moldiness" to the underwater hull, especially with a premise of the ship having spent a deal of time moored.  In that latter case, the yards would be in slings, possibly chain slings, and uppermost yards might have been struck down to deck and stowed.

Awnings would likely be rigged, too.

Checking Scalemates, there's no specific aftermarket for this ship.

The armament is probaly just going to have to do, or you'll wind up down the rabbithole of replacing it all.

The deck races probaly need replacing, this is common to many Alabama builds.

  • Member since
    December 2010
  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Sunday, May 9, 2021 2:00 PM

Thanks Don.

Although I'm not as interested in the Civil War configuration of the USS Kearsarge as I am its later livery, I appreciate the info.

His name, BTW, was Raphael Semmes.

There are lots of sites with information regarding that battle. For anyone interested, here are a few links:

https://www.essentialcivilwarcurriculum.com/raphael-semmes-and-the-css-alabama.html

https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/c/capt-semmes-css-alabama.html

https://sites.google.com/site/290foundation/history/alabama-v-kearsarge

https://mds.marshall.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1003&context=css_al

Don, I believe this is the book to which you refer:

https://www.amazon.com/Memoirs-Service-Afloat-During-Between/dp/1540331172

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, May 9, 2021 1:01 PM

There is a great book about the battle of the Kearsarge and the Alabama, written by the Captain of the Alabama.  Forget the title, however.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Member since
    July 2013
Posted by steve5 on Saturday, May 8, 2021 3:19 PM

I'm going to enjoy this build mate , been hoping you would do another ship .

 

  • Member since
    December 2010
  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Saturday, May 8, 2021 3:18 PM

Bill,

Yup, I may go with a light coat of both Vallejo Gold and Old Gold Model Color Metallics.

Since thinning that particular brand of paint may be problematic using too much water and I don't have any Vallejo thinning product, I may have to strip the applied coat quickly if I don't like what I'm seeing. Such is the way of modeling ...

I'll think on it.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 8, 2021 2:35 PM

Mike you are right about the Cutty Sark. I think gold paint looks about right, of course only in a "brand new in the drydock" kind of way.

 

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    December 2010
  • From: Salem, Oregon
Revell 1/96 USS Kearsarge
Posted by 1943Mike on Saturday, May 8, 2021 1:19 PM

I've been thinking that I would like to attempt another sailing ship before my ageing carcass no longer can manipulate the building of small parts and the rigging involved.

This will be an OOB build.

Before I get started I should say that I am not buying much in the way of aftermarket material ... perhaps more rigging line and some blocks if I don't already have enough.

I have no plans to build her with furled or set sails. As I did for both my Constitution and Cutty Sark, there will be no sails at all. She'll be built as if she were in port for a long enough time that the sails would have been stowed in lockers.

I don't know what guns are supposed to be on board for the 1888 depiction that I suppose the hull configuration of this kit represents. Certainly I don't wish to include the guns that were only on board during her Civil War service. If any of you have some knowledge about the guns that she carried in 1888 (or thereabouts) and if they are correctly represented in this kit I'd be grateful for your input.

I would also like your opinions regarding the copper bottom. I'm guessing it was Muntz Metal (Muntz started this in 1832) and not pure copper. If that's the case I feel I should tone down the copper to look slightly more yellow/green. Kind of like what the present hull of the Cutty Sark looks like today.

I think I may have seen - at some time in the past 10 years - a discussion on the Muntz Metal that included the very knowledgeable John Tilley's input. I haven't looked for that thread yet but I will.

I appreciate your collective knowledge on all things nautical. Sometimes your contributions to threads spares the builder some of the drugery in internet research. I know, I know ... some people enjoy researching on the 'net ... just not this model builder Big Smile.

 

 

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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