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  • Member since
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  • From: New mexico
PE parts
Posted by John3M on Sunday, October 22, 2023 8:56 PM

I ordered the 

Revell Germany Level 1/72 Germany Naval Submarine Type VIIC / 41 (Premium Edition) Model 05163, RV05163

it has some P E parts but needs others like the brass propellers

where can I order them?

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    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, October 23, 2023 6:13 AM

Hi!

 I concur with Disastermaster here. I've gotten some good Props from them.

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  • From: New mexico
Posted by John3M on Monday, October 23, 2023 2:23 PM

those are plastic I'm looking for Photo etched maybe brass.

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, October 23, 2023 5:51 PM

Yes, sort of two tracks here.  PE is good for things in 2D like grills.

But those resin props are IMO much nicer than anything you'll find in etched brass. There used to be little cast brass props available in the smaller scales, but the quality was pretty rough.

What I could find in etched metal.

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/revell-05163-type-vii-c-41--1181854

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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    August 2005
  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Monday, October 23, 2023 9:23 PM

I've made a better-lookin' than PE prop by first coating an injected prop with Molotow chrome marker then airbrushing overall Tamiya clear yellow. 

Many injected props have a better representation of the blade twist than a flat PE part. 

In service prop blades are not generally polished brass, they are bronze. My favorite paint color to use is Reaper Old Bronze acrylic

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  • From: New mexico
Posted by John3M on Tuesday, October 24, 2023 10:40 AM

Thanks, I was reading about available accessories and being a returning modeler, I mistakenly figured PE for the prop. The suggested one is the best way to go.

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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, October 24, 2023 5:19 PM

Hi Bill!

      I discovered if you take a P.E. Prop and assemble it, it's going to look just a P.E.prop.The way to change that is simple asnd easy if you want to take the time. One thing is you have to bend the blades slightly Before you do this. Then. Take the real fine  silver solder 60/40 and put a small piece on the blade. Big enough to go from the tip to the shaft . Then taking a small torch' heat just till it melts qnd runs where it's supposed to. After three or four blades, Clean and Viola'- A  nice looking prop. It has worked for me! 

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    April 2023
  • From: New mexico
Posted by John3M on Tuesday, October 24, 2023 5:24 PM

Tanker-Builder

Hi Bill!

      I discovered if you take a P.E. Prop and assemble it, it's going to look just a P.E.prop.The way to change that is simple asnd easy if you want to take the time. One thing is you have to bend the blades slightly Before you do this. Then. Take the real fine  silver solder 60/40 and put a small piece on the blade. Big enough to go from the tip to the shaft . Then taking a small torch' heat just till it melts qnd runs where it's supposed to. After three or four blades, Clean and Viola'- A  nice looking prop. It has worked for me! 

 I was looking for a supplier for this kind of prop.

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Wednesday, October 25, 2023 1:36 PM

John3M
I mistakenly figured PE for the prop.

They make them, but for scales where the flate brass PE makes a reasonable blade shape.

Now, as a point of order, the DKM U-Boote used a form of Monel metal, so the actual metall would be a steel plus aluminum color with a blue-greenish cast.  It's a unique look.

Monel is often used for small craft propellors as being less expensive to cast than silicone bronze.  It's also more economical on "strategic" metals use, too (which was a virtue in the eyes of DKM).

The resin cast 3d prints will be much easier to paint to the correct color than cast brass or PE.  At least for my 2¢

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  • From: Twin cities, MN
Posted by missileman2000 on Thursday, October 26, 2023 9:33 AM

Were submariine props brass- or were they bronze?  Not same color.

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  • From: New mexico
Posted by John3M on Thursday, October 26, 2023 5:06 PM

[quote user="GMorrison"]

Yes, sort of two tracks here.  PE is good for things in 2D like grills.

But those resin props are IMO much nicer than anything you'll find in etched brass. There used to be little cast brass props available in the smaller scales, but the quality was pretty rough.

What I could find in etched metal.

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/revell-05163-type-vii-c-41--11818

 

I went to the website but can't figure where one would buy anything can't find a link within the site

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, October 27, 2023 12:22 PM

missileman2000

Were submariine props brass- or were they bronze?  Not same color.

Depends on which submarine.

But, brass was very seldom used for that size of a propellor, just too soft and not corrosion-resitant enough. 

Which is why many navies tested, or prefered various alloys, like Monel and the like.

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