What are the "must have" ships?

On October 14, 1939, the U-47, commanded by Gunther Prien, sunk the battleship HMS Royal Oak at anchor in Scapa Flow.

 We all make errors ... in another thread I referred to DD 777 Zellars as a Gearing and was corrected that she was a Sumner class.

 

No biggie ... 

I say U-505 and U-49. Both in 1/72, one was the only ship captured (In battle) by the US NAvy during WW2 and the U-49 because it snuck into Scapa FLow and attacked a Batttleship (On the surface) and sank her. Also, HMS Dreadnought for being the first battleship and HMS Glowworm for being the only ship whos Captain was reccomended for the Victoria Cross by the enemy. Heres an interesting story about her.

http://www.rickard.karoo.net/articles/weapons_HMSGlowworm.html

David

I did not review all of the posts (my fault) so if I repeat some one else's, Sorry.

Napoleonic Wars Royal Navy vessels...

Cherokee class RN Brigs (there is a small scale resin out there) in a 1/100 or larger scale

HMS Shannon

Belle Poule (not the Heller 1820's, but the Napoleonic, The french had alot of ships named Belle Poule)

Bomb vessel, either side

and some of the auxillary craft:  Victualling ships or water and powder hoys (great for a dio!)

USS Essex (as it appeared on it's "Lone Wolf" cruise to the Pacific)

gjek wrote:

Someone listed the Yamato, why? Not starting a thing but why the Yamato over her sister ship the Musashi? Both did about the same things and both suffered the same fate. I myself would include one of these in my list because they were the "Largest"....  I also second the Kaga and the Akagi(especally in 1/350). A u-boat should also be listed.

 I would say Yamato over Musashi because of Yamato's "suicide" run at the end of the war.

How about an WWII LST?

-Jesse

Since we're getting into fantasy .... aaarrgghhh .... what say ye the Black Pearl and Flying Dutchman, eh?

oh and

the ss minnow from gilligans island in 1/60 scale or larger

i know it ain't real but it would be fun

i would say

 the andrea doria

the lusitainia (spelling)

and the calypso

and the langley

Someone listed the Yamato, why? Not starting a thing but why the Yamato over her sister ship the Musashi? Both did about the same things and both suffered the same fate. I myself would include one of these in my list because they were the "Largest"....  I also second the Kaga and the Akagi(especally in 1/350). A u-boat should also be listed.

ppvr wrote:

without the six 1:350 kits i allready have, i want badly IJN Mutsu or Nagato, IJN Takao, RN Vittorio Veneto, HMS Hood, Prinz Eugen, Richelieu and some smaller ships too. Just more these ones and i'm happy. (i think).

 

Aoshima is releasing a 1/350 IJN Takao in July, Trumpeter has released a 1/350 Hood in 1941 fit, is making noises about releasing another 1/350 Hood in 1931 fit, and has circulated pictures of a injection molded 1/350 Richelieu hull, which indicate a Richelieu kit is in the works.   There are also rumors of a 1/350 Akagi from Trumpeter.   1/350 RN Vittorio Veneto is available form some European resin house, if I recall.

Nagato would be a pleasant surprise.   However, I would prefer Fuso because because of its odd appearence, or Hyuga for the unusual carrier-battleship hybrid configuration.   I very much want a Warspit.   No ship of the machine age I can think of has had as exciting a life as that of the Warspit.   If trumpter can do a 1/350 Warspit, then surely it can also reuse some of the molds to do a WWI era Queen Elizabeth class BB.  

 

 

688 Attack Sub & Soviet Typhoon.

Is the Testor's 1/700th kit still around with this pairing?

Where to start! I think the first would be ones of that specific historical significance, whether from an event (battle etc) or because of it's design. The list would vary by country of course but here's mine (In no particular order).


USS Constitution: from a design standpoint she is an excellent ship but was involved in several historic moments including the presentation of the Mamaluke sword to the USMC.
USS Arizona: For obvious reasons.
HMS Dreadnaught: The beginning of the battleship!
HMS Rodney: The culmination of "all or nothing" design.
CVN - Nimitz class: The most powerful ships afloat
HMS Victory: another obvious one!

Others of historic Significance:

HMS Bounty: Not because of the mutiny but because that mutiny caused navies around the worlg to look at, and change, their methods.
Charles W. Morgan: Not a particularly pretty or important vessel but in whaling her record "harvest" has never been beat (She was at it for nearly 100 years!).

Of course the list could go on to include vessels of personal importance but I'll stop now.

The ship I really want to have is a 1/350 Kirov class cruiser, unfortunately, it doesn't exist yet, so to the manufacturers : please, please, please... My fascination for this ship started with the prologue in one of the books of Janes all the worlds ships, and since...

For the rest I sure want to build a Bismarck, an Iowa-class, the USS entreprise (nowadays version), USS Lexington, and after those I will have to check space...

regards

 

I watched a Kirov transit out ot the Med in late 89,  she was far off in the distant and still very impressive ship.

u have opened a can of worms with this one my friend. now for my two cents worth(depending on our crappy exchange rate). all are in 1-350 scale. how about hms ark royal, nelson, rodney, uss ships:- langley, alabama, ranger, nevada, japanese ships:- kongo class, akagi, kaga, zuikaku and shokaku. the liner united states, hms hood of course. a wish list, yes, but you never know.   

I agree about the Midway, the Kangman kit hardly qualifies as a "scale" model.  Looks more like a toy since many of the parts are molded too thick.  I have it in my stash and am considering building it for next summers SINKEX operations at the pond.

Scott

I'd like to see a nice model of the USS Midway CV-45. I have the Kangnam model and it looks ok, but the planes really suck. I am going to do it for my son who is 9 and he doesn;t really care since there is one that resembles an E2C Hawkeye. I would take it in any scale.

Steve

U-505 - Nautilus - Kursk - U-47 - Hunley - Turtle

JTilley's right-- there was no Delta Queen kit. (I was thinking more about the type of vessel, and used the name as an example, forgetting for the moment that no such kit exists.)

SInce my last post, I realized I didn't have any submarines on the list- I think there should be one- not sure which one......

In general I like rcboater's list (though of course I'd like it to be longer). My biggest problem with it, in practical terms, is the shortage of riverboat kits.

If there's ever been a Delta Queen kit, I haven't encountered it. The old Pyro Robert E. Lee (hardly a gem of the industry) may be floating around in a Lindberg box. Beyond that, I can't think of a single currently-available plastic riverboat kit. (Oh - Revell Germany makes a Rhine excursion steamer, but I suspect that one wouldn't count.) The Revell version of the Robert E. Lee hasn't been in the catalog for years, and the Lindberg Southern Belle seems to be defunct. Maybe the old Lindberg Clermont is still around, but I haven't seen it for a long time.

Bluejacket used to make a decent wood Robert E. Lee, but it's out of production too. At least one of those awful Continental European companies makes something that's supposed to represent a Mississippi steamer, but it hardly qualifies as a scale model.

All this is most unfortunate. Steamboats do make beautiful, fascinating models. This is yet another yawning gap in the ship model kit industry.

It fits your criteria quite nicely, although you should have both Disney's and Rickover's Nautilus together like you did Monitor/Merrimac (Virginia).

... and the Minnow.

It is kinda amusing how this topic has turned into a ridiculously huge list, with all of us posting one or more favorite (and admittedly, sometimes obscure) choices.... It has kind of turned in to a "wish list" more than a list of basic subjects for a collection. (I certainly was one who joined in....)

I do think the original post was an interesting idea on it's own, though it was a rather vaguely worded question- "must have ships" -- what does that mean? It could mean a list of historically significant ships, or it could mean a list of the best of the basic subjects that many of us are likely to have in our stashes. It could also be interpreted as a list of important subjects in a common scale, or maybe a list of ships that you might have that non-ship obsessed folk whould have heard of or recognize. If that's not enough options, which country we live in will affect our choices, too.

Here's My interpretation of the question, and my first shot at a reply:

"Must have' kits for a collection are those that have these qualities:
1. Actually be available as a model kit, preferably in plastic, preferably in one of the standard scales.
2. Be subjects of historical (world or national) significance- I'm in the USA, so US topics are more likely to be featured in my personal version of my list....
3. Ideally fit into the collection ina way that ilustrates the evolution of technology over the centuries. That means that I may drop yet another WW2 ship from the list in favor of a ship from another era.
4. Ties are decided in favor of ships my wife has heard of...!

Here's my list, in order of how likely my wife is to recognize it:

1. RMS Titanic
2. Santa Maria
3. PT-109
4. . Mayflower
5. USS Constitution
6. USS New Jersey
7. USS Nimitz
8. Clipper ship (any, US or British)
9. USS Monitor/CSS Virginia
10. Roman bireme or trireme
11. Delta Queen or other Mississippi River boat

What do you think of my list??

-Bill

I believe the Navy has blueprints of "Noah'sArk" but they are TOP SECRET. My list would contain ships I've served on. ACME class MSO, Newport class LST, Adams class DDG and USS J.f. Kennedy I usually do armor and a/c but when I do ships they are usually 1/700. So far I've found all but the MSO and there seems to be no decent model of the JFK in 1/700...Rick

Dai ... howzabout Warramunga in 1/200?

Having a second go!
I would like to see in a larger scale ie 1/300 to 1/100 Tribal (hopefully NOT Cossack), V&W, N class and in 1/72 a Fairmile B and D and a Bathurst class.
There are enough paint schemes in hese ships and variations, official and not, to keep any modeller, from the many countries that used them, in work for several lifetimes.
Also a Holland sub and HMS Dreadnaught.
My second 2/- worth.
Dai

i would like to see in any scale more seaplane tender sub tender etc
the unsunk hero sort of ships if you know what i mean

itfahey,

A 1/350 Kirov is the Holy Grail ...

Garbage scowl

My home office will have the following ships:
all in 1/350 scale:

Bismark
Yamato
Missouri
King George the 5th
Arizona
Nimitz class Carrier from Trumpeteer
and......... the USS Texas when ever someone makes one that's not resin

Actually there has been one Hartford kit. It was made by Aurora, back in the mid- to late seventies.

By the standards of modern scale modeling it wasn't much of a kit. It was, if I remember right, somewhere between 18 inches and two feet long - part of a small series of kits that were intended, I think, to fill a gap between the small (Santa Maria, Eagle, Flying Cloud, etc.) and large Cutty Sark and Constitution Revell kits. (The small Revell ones sold for $3 or $4; the big ones for $12 or $15. The Aurora kits, if I remember right, sold for $5 or $6.) The other kits in the series, as I remember, were the whaler Wanderer, the Bonhomme Richard, and the Sea Witch (which was, in fact, a modified reissue of an old ITC kit.)

They all featured rather clumsy detail (over-enthusiastic "wood grain" surface detail, for instance), and injection-molded plastic sails molded integrally with the yards. Their best features were the packaging; they had nicely-designed boxes, with paintings by John Steel.

A year or two ago a member of this Forum got hold of one of the Hartford kits, and we had a good discussion of it. I think he replaced the hopeless plastic spars with wood, and got a pretty good result.

I can't recommend that old kit as a basis for a serious scale model. But it does show up on E-bay now and then.

Ok, here's a personal favorite no one has mentioned. How about Farragut's flagship, the USS Hartford?

There's never been a kit of this ship as far as I am aware, so is there any way to model it besides buying a set of plans and scratchbuilding?

Phil