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                        What are the "must have" ships?

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                        highlanderburial
                        • Member since
                          August 2005
                        • From: Glenolden, PA
                        Posted by highlanderburial on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 7:51 PM
                        Great CG list to CG Bob!

                        I second the Harriet Lane. I am reading a book right now called Galveston, which has a fictional account of the taking of the Lane by Confederates. The book seems to stretch the non-fiction aspects a bit, but their description of her makes me want to sign on!
                        Other Facts about the Lane:
                        First U.S. Side-wheeled vessel BUILT with armament
                        The only ship to have fought on both sides of the civil war in more than one battle
                        The youngest active combatant in the civil war. (Captain's son fought boarding Confederates while his dad burned classified documents. This is detailed in the book Civil War Curiosites by Webb Garrison
                        Great List....
                        Todd

                        Imagine a witty signature right .....here....

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                        Hippy-Ed
                        • Member since
                          December 2004
                        • From: Stockton,Ca
                        Posted by Hippy-Ed on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 4:12 PM
                        Well, I think I'll toss my My 2 cents [2c] in here... Noah's ark, USS Ranger (1 thru 7)Big Smile [:D] the Essex CVA-9, and the Hancock CVA-19

                        Oh and Jeff... How could ya fer git the Nautilus[:0]
                        If you lose your sense of humor, you've lost everything
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 11:13 AM
                        Bismarck, tirpitz,enterprise,arizona,missouri that shuld be a good start
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                        Jeff Herne
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        Posted by Jeff Herne on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 10:04 AM
                        Thought? You mean you actually wanted me to think about this and not just blurt things out??

                        Sheesh...all these stipulations being placed on my brain cells...

                        Jeff
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                        jtilley
                        • Member since
                          May 2003
                        • From: Greenville, NC
                        Posted by jtilley on Monday, October 31, 2005 9:29 PM
                        Hmmmm....How about the Santa Maria? Or Cook's Endeavour?

                        Since we seem to be compiling a list that reaches into the hundreds, what about an American clipper ship -say, the Flying Cloud? Or the Cutty Sark? Or a Viking vessel? Or an English warship from the Stuart period - say, the Sovereign of the Seas, or H.M.S. Prince?

                        This is fun - in a slightly ironic way. It would be nice if the kit manufacturers thought in such terms. But it's pretty obvious that they don't.

                        Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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                        L'Emperor
                        • Member since
                          February 2005
                        Posted by L'Emperor on Monday, October 31, 2005 8:49 PM
                        IMHO, the one ship that has had the gratest impact on world history is the HMS Beagle.
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 31, 2005 2:04 PM
                        A canoe......

                        Pre WWII battleships (1930's) besides the Arizona in 1/350.
                        1/72 of All types WWII PT boats.
                        1/350 of the Kirov class cruisers.
                        1/350 Knox class frigate.
                        I definitely agree with Kongo class Battleships or any Japaness Class battleships besides Yamato class (1/350).
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                        Jeff Herne
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        Posted by Jeff Herne on Monday, October 31, 2005 1:33 PM
                        Seasick, did you just finish watching the History Channel again??

                        Al, you got me on those...should probably mention one of the Chesapeake Bay clamming schooners too (like the Meerwald)

                        Yes, I forgot the Nautilus...and a Victory ship (although the Libertys were first)...could add in the Hog Island steamers, Langley (first aircraft carrier), Hosho (1st IJN carrier), etc.,etc...

                        What about the Chris-craft Roundabout? Or the Army LT tug?

                        You can go on and on and on...

                        Jeff
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                        seasick
                        • Member since
                          June 2004
                        • From: 29° 58' N 95° 21' W
                        Posted by seasick on Monday, October 31, 2005 12:57 PM
                        It Is A Great Lakes Thing

                        Edmond Fitzgerald
                        Edmond Fitzgerald was a Gret lakes ore carrier that sunk under misterious circumstances.
                        However the case is closed:
                        The ship most likely sank because water made its way into one of the ships cargo holds because the cover was not properly closed. This resulted in the ship foundering and a loss of all hands. The robot that explored the wreck found human remains, and has dispeled "urban legends" of the crew being snatched.

                        There is a 1/700 resin kit of this vessel availible.

                        My 2 cents [2c]

                        Chasing the ultimate build.

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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 31, 2005 12:45 PM
                        Empress of Ireland.

                        It's a Canadian Thing... Edmund Fitzgerlard

                        Ocean Ranger, (it's an oil rig, but i think it counts)
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                        paulnchamp
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        • From: Warwick, RI
                        Posted by paulnchamp on Sunday, October 30, 2005 10:10 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by butchy

                        Hi Paulnchamp the Big E may have been the most decorated US Navy ship in WW2. I'm pretty sure the New Jersey has her beat as well as the Mighty Mo ( More Wars LOL) But I do know the USS Parche SSN 683 was the most decorated US Navy ship ever...she was retired last November...


                        Some good points there, Butch. I guess we have to define what "decorations" are.
                        The Big E earned 20 battle stars, which to my knowledge is the most any ship has ever earned. That's what I was referring to .
                        Paul "A man's GOT to know his limitations."
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 29, 2005 8:36 AM
                        My "Must Have" is HMS/RMS Chitral. One of the merchantmen designed with the potential to be quickley converted to an AMC.
                        I also sailed in her on her last revenue voyage under Captain Cousins from Sydney to London. She could be built as a liner or an AMC.
                        Dai
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                        scottrc
                        • Member since
                          December 2003
                        • From: 37deg 40.13' N 95deg 29.10'W
                        Posted by scottrc on Saturday, October 29, 2005 7:14 AM
                        I want to add the Lexington CVA16 SCB125 and Oriskany SCB27.

                        Scott

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                        Ron Smith
                        • Member since
                          May 2005
                        Posted by Ron Smith on Saturday, October 29, 2005 5:45 AM
                        I'm going to add a few:

                        USS Maryland, survived PH, served the entire war and was engaged at Surigao.
                        USS WeeVee, see above.
                        Any of the New Orleans class cruisers, tough ships and last of the Treaty Cruisers.
                        CVE's, tough little ships that served in both oceans.
                        USS Johnston, Hoel, Heerman and Samuel B. Roberts.....the Japs though they were BB's and cruisers form the ferocity of their attack.
                        One of the Russian round ships, simply as an example of weird and really bad ideas.
                        BB-55, the first fast BB.
                        Balao and Balao guppy boats.....good long service.
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                        yah4sure
                        • Member since
                          March 2005
                        • From: Albert Lea, MN
                        Posted by yah4sure on Friday, October 28, 2005 4:23 PM
                        About the only other WW 2 ships I can add is CV-9 Essex, and any of the CVE's, DD's or
                        DE's from Taffy 3 in the battle of Leyte Gulf.
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 28, 2005 4:22 PM
                        Guys,
                        Some kicka** ships up here let me augment with some modern must-haves:

                        SOVREMY (SP) Class Destroyer
                        Arleigh Burke Class Destroyer

                        -Malibuswo
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                        MBT70
                        • Member since
                          March 2004
                        • From: Pacific Northwest
                        Posted by MBT70 on Friday, October 28, 2005 1:02 PM
                        SMS Seydlitz, von der Tann, Konig and Grosser Kurfurst ... and USS Gearing (Pre-FRAM)
                        Life is tough. Then you die.
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                        seasick
                        • Member since
                          June 2004
                        • From: 29° 58' N 95° 21' W
                        Posted by seasick on Friday, October 28, 2005 12:00 PM
                        Any WW2 warship collection should include a British/Commonwealth Flower class corvette.

                        [Note: "Corvette" was a type of ship long before it was used for a car.]

                        Smaller than a USN "destroyer escort" "DE", the Flower class escorted convoys through the North Atlantic, shouldering the brunt of the submarine war.

                        Chasing the ultimate build.

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                        DBFSS385
                        • Member since
                          September 2003
                        • From: Connecticut
                        Posted by DBFSS385 on Thursday, October 27, 2005 9:11 PM
                        Hi Paulnchamp the Big E may have been the most decorated US Navy ship in WW2. I'm pretty sure the New Jersey has her beat as well as the Mighty Mo ( More Wars LOL) But I do know the USS Parche SSN 683 was the most decorated US Navy ship ever...she was retired last November...
                        Be Well/DBF Walt
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                        DBFSS385
                        • Member since
                          September 2003
                        • From: Connecticut
                        Posted by DBFSS385 on Thursday, October 27, 2005 9:01 PM
                        OH I forgot my must have list..
                        Accurate plastic US Fleet Boat in any scale.
                        New PT Boat in 1/72 scale ( Higgins)
                        USS Parche SSN 683 in 1/350
                        USS Jimmy Carter SSN 23 in 1/350
                        Be Well/DBF Walt
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                        DBFSS385
                        • Member since
                          September 2003
                        • From: Connecticut
                        Posted by DBFSS385 on Thursday, October 27, 2005 8:54 PM
                        Jeff I'm surprised by your overlooking the USS Nautilus SSN 571 in your Historic Ship list.. This ship was to ships what the jet motor was to aviation.
                        Be Well/DBF Walt
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                        Fish-Head Aric
                        • Member since
                          September 2005
                        • From: Chehalis, WA
                        Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:55 PM
                        All good choices! I go a big vote for Noah's Ark, too!

                        One vessel I have always found interesting though, is the WWII Japanese B-1 I-25 submarine. It was the first to create a stir along the west coast of the Continental US, and had the unusual (to me) feature of carrying an aircraft in its hold for running its mini-bombing runs. It stirred trouble all about the Pacific Theater before being put to an end. http://www.portorfordlifeboatstation.org/article1.html
                        ~Aric Fisher aric_001@hotmail.com
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:16 PM
                        My favorites are The Big "E" and Little "E"
                        USS Enterprise CV-6
                        USS England DE-635 (Buckley class)
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                        Imperator-Rex
                        • Member since
                          April 2005
                        • From: Switzerland
                        Posted by Imperator-Rex on Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:03 PM
                        Especially if you go for the "1/48 CVN-65 Enterprise with a full flight deck", which should be " about 23' 4.75" long and 5' 2.5" tall"...

                        Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]
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                        paulnchamp
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        • From: Warwick, RI
                        Posted by paulnchamp on Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:15 PM
                        Hey, you guys all forgot USS Enterprise (CV-6) the most decorated ship in history and namesake of CVN-65.
                        Paul "A man's GOT to know his limitations."
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                        Imperator-Rex
                        • Member since
                          April 2005
                        • From: Switzerland
                        Posted by Imperator-Rex on Thursday, October 27, 2005 9:37 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by smokinguns3

                        this one would have to be scractch built dont think they make a kit but i would have to add the navys first sub the uss alagator she got her name because she was painted green.


                        Regia Marina manufactures a 1/700 kit, check it out at steelnavy: http://www.steelnavy.com/RMVVenetoJS.htm

                        I don't know what to think about all those flashy yellow colors you see on this kit, though...
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                        mfsob
                        • Member since
                          March 2005
                        • From: West Virginia, USA
                        Posted by mfsob on Thursday, October 27, 2005 8:20 AM
                        *realizes he is going out on a limb, again*

                        What about merchant shipping that helped us win the war, specifically a Victory ship in 1/350 scale?
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:47 AM
                        http://www.steelnavy.com/SN%20Dreadnought%20JB.htm
                        jtilley,
                        Thanks for the link. Lots of good looking shipping there (sigh...if only I had some talent too).
                        crayfish
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:29 AM
                        Jeff,

                        A good classic "must have" list but I can't believe that you didn't include the Gloucester fishing schooners or the New England whalers. Prime examples of historical American work boats, and beautiful models.

                        Al Blevins
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                        jtilley
                        • Member since
                          May 2003
                        • From: Greenville, NC
                        Posted by jtilley on Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:04 AM
                        There's a nice 1/700 Dreadnought from Combrig, a Russian company that makes well-detailed - and surprisingly inexpensive - resin kits. A Combrig kit dressed up with aftermarket parts from a company like Gold Medal, White Ensign, or Tom's Modelworks has the potential to be a terrific model. I suspect at least one of the resin companies has also done a Dreadnought on a larger scale at some time or other. A good place to shop is the Steel Navy website, www.steelnavy.com .

                        It could easily be argued that the Dreadnought is, from the historical standpoint, the biggest gap in the plastic ship kit industry. For that matter, there's always been a shortage of World War I capital ship kits. (Three cheers for ICM's German battlecruisers; may there be more kits like them.) It's a shame there aren't more. They make spectacular models - and no class of warships has ever had a bigger impact on history.

                        Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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