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Tamiya 1/350 Bismarck kit differences 78001 and 78013

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  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Monday, July 3, 2006 9:58 AM

Yann Solo - I can easily understand why a modeler in this day and age would get frustrated by the variety - and cost - of aftermarket parts.  I firmly believe that the 1990s and 2000s are going to be regarded some day as a golden age of scale modeling.  There is more stuff available now to help kit builders produce outstanding miniatures than there's ever been before.  And the quality of it is, for old fuddes like me who've been around since the beginning of plastic modeling, almost unbelievable.  (I can remember without difficulty the days when good magazines and books were assuring us that radar screens were "unmodelable" on 1/350 or 1/700 scale, and guardrails were considered the exclusive preserve of veteran scratchbuilders with machine shops.) 

All this becomes counter-productive, though, if it has the effect of intimidating the would-be modeler.  Nobody suggests for one minute that a modeler "has" to buy three aftermarket sets - or one aftermarket set - to build a 1/350 Bismarck.  Those things are tempting, but they're not essential.  The truth of the matter is that the standards of detail and accuracy in the ship kits themselves have also been going up recently.  (Those Tamiya 1/350 battleships are almost thirty years old now; a number of other companies have, at least in some respects, beaten them.  But the Tamiya kits still hold up remarkably well.)  A model built out of the box from one of those kits can be a thing of great beauty, and something to make its builder proud. 

My suggestion is:  take stock carefully of what you want to build, what you want the finished product to look like, how much time you want to spend on it, and what your budget is.  I don't think anybody in this Forum has any intention of trying to force people to spend vast sums of money on their models, or scare them away from the hobby altogether.  It's going to be your model.  The materials are out there to help you complete it to a variety of standards, but all the decisions are up to you.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

  • Member since
    March 2006
  • From: Drummondville, Quebec, Canada
Posted by Yann Solo on Monday, July 3, 2006 10:05 AM
I know I'm not forced to buy the aftermarket kits.  My point was that the basic kit is expensive and lacks of details.  I've built some Dragons armor models and the level of detail is astonishing for the price.  I'dd like all manufacturers to do the same but I know it wont happen.  I would really like to see what's in the box of a Tamiya war ship.  Maybe the details will suit me!!
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  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Reno, NV
Posted by espins1 on Monday, July 3, 2006 11:43 AM

I know what you mean Yann Solo.  The latest armored offerings from say Dragon are absolutely phenominal.  They include so much detail, photo-etch parts, rubber road wheals seperate from the rims, turned aluminum barrels.  I'd like to see the same "evolution" with the ship kits.  The Tamiya 1/350 Bismarck is a great kit, but when you're looking at that scale, it almost seems featureless without adding photo etch.  I'm still in a bit of shock that I spent $166 on the PE parts, 3 times what I paid for the actual kit.  But I did that because I envision this Bismarck being a centerpiece in my collection that I'd like to mount on the wall in a custome display shelf. 

It would be nice though if the ships got up to the same level of detail, value and add ons that the Dragon Armor kits have evolved to.

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

  • Member since
    March 2006
  • From: Drummondville, Quebec, Canada
Posted by Yann Solo on Monday, July 3, 2006 12:06 PM

Absolutely, Dragon proved that it is possible to supply a very well detailed kit for a reasonable price.  Other manufacturers should take exemple.

Be carefull espins1, if you have to mortgage your house for a kit, it would mean it's time to stop.Smile [:)]

No matter where you go ....... there you are.
  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Reno, NV
Posted by espins1 on Monday, July 3, 2006 12:24 PM
 Yann Solo wrote:

Absolutely, Dragon proved that it is possible to supply a very well detailed kit for a reasonable price.  Other manufacturers should take exemple.

Be carefull espins1, if you have to mortgage your house for a kit, it would mean it's time to stop.Smile [:)]

heh heh, at the rate I'm going, I may have to re-fi to afford this expensive hobby!  Shock [:O] Laugh [(-D]

I keep referring to one of my friends that works at my LHS as my "dealer".  Yes, I'm addicted to modelling.  Sigh [sigh] Wink [;)]

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Reno, NV
Posted by espins1 on Thursday, July 6, 2006 11:07 PM
The PE is here!  The PE is here!!!  drooooooooooooooooooool  Tongue [:P]

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