Battleship Row in 1/350

The ships I listed were present at Pearl on Dec 7.  Their division assignments were from the Bob Henneman Order of Battle site.   

There were others assigned to the divisions.   As noted in Tracy White's page, the Colorado was in BATDIV4 along with her class-mates Maryland and West Virginia.   However the Colorado was on the West Coast (Bremerton?) at the time.

Great info, thank you. 

You say that Adm Kimmel issued the order, were all the battleships listed on the link you provided due to homeport in Pearl or were they West Coast ships?

To paraphrase ADM Kimmel's Fleet Order 1 USL-41 dated March 24, 1941, with amplifying items from others including Bob Hennemans PH Order of Battle site ...

1)  housekeeping ...

2)  Battleships and cruisers shall paint the tops of their forward turrets with the following colors for identification by their own aircraft.   When stripes are involved they shall be parallel to the axis of the guns

BATDIV1 - Red (solid)  [Nevada, Pennsylvania, Arizona]

BATDIV2 - White (solid) [Oklahoma, Tennessee, California]

BATDIV3 - Blue (solid) [N/A]

BATDIV4 - Black (solid) [Maryland, West Virginia]

BATDIV5 - Yellow (solid) [N/A]

CRUDIV2 - Yellow (double stripe)

CRUDIV3 - Red (double stripe)

CRUDIV4 - Blue (single stripe)

CRUDIV5 - Yellow (single stripe)

CRUDIV6 - Black (single stripe) [New Orleans, SanFrancisco]

CRUDIV7 - Green (single stripe)

CRUDIV8 - Black (single stripe)

CRUDIV9 - Green (double stripe) [Phoenix, Brooklyn, StLouis, Helena]

Detroit/Raleigh -- Blue (double stripe) [Raleigh was flagship of DESFLOT1, Detroit was flagship of DESFLOT2]

Richmond -- Red (double stripe)

Augusta/Omaha -- Red (single stripe)

3)  Battleships and cruisers shall paint the top of the after{most} turret to correspond with the section color of their embarked aircraft.  The colors are red, white, blue, black, green, and yellow for the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, and sixth sections.

 

Arizona was RED/RED/RED

 

Even better graphic from Tracy White - Researcher at Large website

http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/S19-7/PearlHarborBatDivMarkings.html

 

Since you bring it up, and not to hijack the thread, but what were the colors? Arizona was red, correct?

Expensive, Large, but Beautiful, seeing the colored turrets next to one another would be wonderful.

bondoman wrote:

The ships look to be less than 100' apart which really surprised me.

Well, you need some room to go ahead and to go astern to "spring" out of a close mooring like that, even with tugs available.

Given that the lock dimension in Panama is 110', and BBs tended to be narrower than that, the spacing could be 120-130'--at least to my eye.

A person could probably get away with foreshortening the dio to only eight feet for 1/350, but it would be a squeeze.

The mind bender for me on the concept is the sheer number of yard craft an 8' dio would want (and just how many pots of acrylic gel medium . . . <g>)

ps1scw wrote:

Anyone ever attempt such a thing?  It would be awesome to see.

Aside from the model railroad size display area the biggest problem will be in finding all the ships in 1/350. Arizona is of course available in plastic but everything else will have to be in resin, not all of which is still in production. Yankee Modelworks can provide the Californias and Colorado class ships, with the modeler making the appropriate modifications but the Oklahoma/Nevada is going to be a bigger problem. I am assuming that you are not interested in Pennsylvania as it would not fit into the confines of the proposal. Commanders Iron Shipwright still lists as available both Oklahoma and Nevada in 1941 fit @ $325 each. Pennsylvania (if interested) is listed as OOP with the possibility of some still in stock. Free Time Hobbies lists the YMW California/Tennessee @$326 each and the West Virginia/Maryland class @ $319 (at least for W. Virginia, you will have to modify one for the Maryland).

You will need deep pockets to whip up this project! WS

Why I like the Forums- promotes mental exercise. I put up "the" aerial photo on my screen and set a scale based on a listed length of USS Arizona at 608 feet (wiki). Ignoring waterline vs. deck, this set the length of the line from the stern of USS Nevada to the stem of USS Maryland at about 2850 feet, ignoring USS Neosho beyond. The ships look to be less than 100' apart which really surprised me.

So 2850 feet at 1/350 is a little over 8 feet. The overall beam of two BBs moored side by side is a little over 200 feet, it would appear.

So your whole base, allowing for space around it, without USS Neosho, could be 10' x 2' I'd think. Like a decent little portable model railroad.

Ford Island looks to be about 300 feet to the west, on average, but a promontory comes out quite close to the bow of USS Tennesee.

Bill