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Posted by Tracy White on Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:34 PM

ps1scw
I wonder if Dragon will come out with more 1/350 figure sets.

I'm pushing for it but so far unsuccessfully. There are a couple of us who think their figures and weapons would sell like hot cakes but for the moment they are happy to keep them an item exclusive to their kits.

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Posted by EdGrune on Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:05 PM

Bigger isn't always better.   The old Revell box-scale kits were great when they were new.   Now they are dated as technology has passed them by.   Even with aftermarket detail parts there is a good amount of destruction which must occur before construction can begin.

The Trumpeter 1:350 scale Buckley-class, sold as the USS England is an excellent kit.  It is much better than their USS The Sullivans of the same vintage.   With aftermarket PE it can be made into a stunning piece, without the need to remove much if any molded detail.

Trumpeter worked with PitRoad on this project.  PitRoad has put out a kit of the Cannon-class DE using the Trump England and adding a sprue of Cannon/Edsall-specific details (stack, guns, & tubs).

The Revell kits are good for nostalgia or as a basis for an otherwise non-existant subject.   But there are better, more up-to-date kits available.

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:54 PM

Revell has the USS Buckley 1:249 slated for reissue in the 1st half of 2010.

 

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Posted by ps1scw on Wednesday, December 9, 2009 7:53 PM

I have this one waiting to kick off as well, it looks great, can't wait to get 10 min next week to open the box again, lol.  BTW I wonder if Dragon will come out with more 1/350 figure sets.

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Posted by constructor on Sunday, December 6, 2009 5:39 PM
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Yeah - the Cyber PE for Buchanan was cheap with the pre-order.  I can't believe that they'd ask $86 for it.  Even the $26 seems high for what you get - railings and the pre-shaped fire control radar.  No ladders, no search radar, no depth charge racks, no platforms.  Unless they've added to the original, I'd be tempted to go with the generic DD/DE detail PE that I think is sold by Tom's.

I ordered my Dragon PE set from Sprue Brothers for $12.49. there is one more in their inventory as of last week.

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Posted by constructor on Sunday, December 6, 2009 5:26 PM
 ps1scw wrote:

Not PE, actual plastic, one of the guys actually comes in 2 pieces.  all enlisted w/helmets on.  some skylarking, others manning thier battlestation.

If they are serious about entering the 1/350 ship market, I really think that dragon can clean up if there were to issue: "underway watch" "working party" "manning the guns" etc. 1/350 crew members. 

 

I agree. The crew members really look good. This is far superior from the flat etched figures now in the market. They should have a complete generic set we can use for battleships and other surface ships.

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Posted by Antipodean Andy on Sunday, December 6, 2009 3:22 AM
Thanks for this thread, guys.  I'm looking at the Buchanan kit to represent one of the class that operated in the Atlantic (for the Battle of the Atlantic GB).  Found one on Internet Hobbies but will check Dragon.
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Posted by Tracy White on Monday, December 29, 2008 2:23 AM

Kenny Loup of Gator's masks has two mask sets out; the original did not take the shape of the hull into consideration and when I brought it up he did a new set that sorta does.

The "problem" with Measure 12 Mod was that there were no design sheets, just a written description and "discussion" with a couple of examples. Thus, if you want to do a particular ship you need to find good photographs with both sides. I have this problem with my build of DD-486 Lansdowne; there are good photos of her port side, but none of her starboard and thus I probably will have to guess.

So Gator's masks will only work if you're doing Buchanan. Or you could read the January 2009 issue of FSM that has an article about using silly putty to do measure 12 mod.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:18 PM
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 Mansteins revenge wrote:
Thanks.  I noticed that there are some finished Dragon Buchanan's also on that website, some with the modified measure 42 camo scheme...does anyone know if there are going to be any AM masks for this measure for this kit available??????

Measure 42?   Do you mean Measure 12 Mod?

Yes, my bad....Measure 12 modified...or am I gonna have to free-hand it???
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Posted by EdGrune on Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:14 PM

 Mansteins revenge wrote:
Thanks.  I noticed that there are some finished Dragon Buchanan's also on that website, some with the modified measure 42 camo scheme...does anyone know if there are going to be any AM masks for this measure for this kit available??????

Measure 42?   Do you mean Measure 12 Mod?

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 28, 2008 4:44 PM
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Yes, in 1/240th scale. There was an article in one of the older FSM magazines about building one, but some exist at ModelWarships.com:

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/dd/de-51/240-sk/buckley-index.html

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/dd/de-51/240-ls/buckley-index.html

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/dd/de-51/240-bn/bn-index.html 

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/dd/de-51/240-cp2/de51-index.html

 

 

Thanks.  I noticed that there are some finished Dragon Buchanan's also on that website, some with the modified measure 42 camo scheme...does anyone know if there are going to be any AM masks for this measure for this kit available??????
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Posted by Tracy White on Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:47 PM

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 27, 2008 10:43 PM
 Tracy White wrote:

I've been working on my Trumpeter England off an on this week and I'll echo Ed's statement. It's not as good as the Dragon Buchanan, but I think I still would list it as my recommendation for a first ship due to it's cheaper cost and ease of build. The 20mm guns, for example, are way over scale, but would be much easier for a first-time builder to assemble.

ModelWarships has one in the gallery as HMS Duff:

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/ff/hms/duff-350-ch/ch-index.html

SteelNavy has two as well:

http://www.steelnavy.com/TrumpDonnellWDK.htm 

http://www.steelnavy.com/TrumpEnglandSHP.htm 

Cool...nice build-ups...reading about the "England's" record of sub-kills is impressive...the "hedgehog" in the kit isn't much to look at but, I guess for 350th scale whadddaya expect, huh?  Didn't Revell or Monogram put out a "Buckley" in a larger scale several years ago???
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Posted by Tracy White on Saturday, December 27, 2008 7:35 PM

I've been working on my Trumpeter England off an on this week and I'll echo Ed's statement. It's not as good as the Dragon Buchanan, but I think I still would list it as my recommendation for a first ship due to it's cheaper cost and ease of build. The 20mm guns, for example, are way over scale, but would be much easier for a first-time builder to assemble.

ModelWarships has one in the gallery as HMS Duff:

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/ff/hms/duff-350-ch/ch-index.html

SteelNavy has two as well:

http://www.steelnavy.com/TrumpDonnellWDK.htm 

http://www.steelnavy.com/TrumpEnglandSHP.htm 

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Posted by EdGrune on Friday, December 26, 2008 12:11 PM

Trumpeter's USS England is a Buckley-class DE equipped with a Hedgehog.  The Trump England is miles better than their USS The Sullivans.

Iron Shipwright makes a Tacoma-class frigate as the USS Burlington

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 26, 2008 10:34 AM
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 Tracy White wrote:
Yes, I was aware of that. I was posting Rick's information that no Benson/Gleaves carried the Hedgehog during the war, and that the closest you could come was the Mk 22.

And Ted Roscoe states in "US Destroyer Operations in WWII" that NO destroyers were equipped with Hedgehog, and that the equipment was primarily used on PF (frigates) and DE classes.

Are there any decent DE or frigate kits out there in 1/350th or larger???
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Posted by EdGrune on Tuesday, December 23, 2008 6:31 AM

 Tracy White wrote:
Yes, I was aware of that. I was posting Rick's information that no Benson/Gleaves carried the Hedgehog during the war, and that the closest you could come was the Mk 22.

And Ted Roscoe states in "US Destroyer Operations in WWII" that NO destroyers were equipped with Hedgehog, and that the equipment was primarily used on PF (frigates) and DE classes.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 22, 2008 11:31 PM
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Jst got mine last week...excited like hell..!!!  Cant wait to get started...and yup, couldnt help myself to post up a pic..~ Hehee...

I'm with you, man...that kit is modeling nirvana!!!
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Posted by airtrans Crash on Monday, December 22, 2008 9:08 PM
da@# went to spray some hull grey and it just spider-webbed as it was being shot on the pieces
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Posted by Tracy White on Monday, December 22, 2008 9:05 PM
Yes, I was aware of that. I was posting Rick's information that no Benson/Gleaves carried the Hedgehog during the war, and that the closest you could come was the Mk 22.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 22, 2008 2:04 PM
 EdGrune wrote:

 Tracy White wrote:
The Mk 22 that Rick provided the photos for was not a hedgehog... different device. Much simpler and less effective.

Interesting note about the MK22 Mousetrap from navweaps.com 

A Mousetrap projector similar to the Mark 20, but with eight rails, organized as four over four.  Fired a pattern of about 80 yards wide (73 m) at a range of about 300 yards (274 m).  100 of these weapons were in service by November 1942.  In addition to smaller craft, twelve Benson (DD-421) class and Gleaves (DD-423) class destroyers were each fitted with three of these projectors on the forecastle forward of the forward 5"/38 mount.  One of these destroyers, USS Turner DD-648, blew up and sank off Ambrose Light (Lower New York Bay) on 3 January 1944, killing 138 crewmen.  The loss was attributed to Mousetrap projectiles with faulty contact fuzes.

Here's the device that I was thinking of:

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Posted by EdGrune on Monday, December 22, 2008 8:40 AM

 Tracy White wrote:
The Mk 22 that Rick provided the photos for was not a hedgehog... different device. Much simpler and less effective.

Interesting note about the MK22 Mousetrap from navweaps.com 

A Mousetrap projector similar to the Mark 20, but with eight rails, organized as four over four.  Fired a pattern of about 80 yards wide (73 m) at a range of about 300 yards (274 m).  100 of these weapons were in service by November 1942.  In addition to smaller craft, twelve Benson (DD-421) class and Gleaves (DD-423) class destroyers were each fitted with three of these projectors on the forecastle forward of the forward 5"/38 mount.  One of these destroyers, USS Turner DD-648, blew up and sank off Ambrose Light (Lower New York Bay) on 3 January 1944, killing 138 crewmen.  The loss was attributed to Mousetrap projectiles with faulty contact fuzes.

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Posted by yeapjacky on Monday, December 22, 2008 12:13 AM

Jst got mine last week...excited like hell..!!!  Cant wait to get started...and yup, couldnt help myself to post up a pic..~ Hehee...

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Posted by Tracy White on Sunday, December 21, 2008 1:42 PM
The Mk 22 that Rick provided the photos for was not a hedgehog... different device. Much simpler and less effective.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 21, 2008 10:12 AM

Awesome pics, Tracy---thanks a bunch.  That set-up looks a little different than the traditional hedgehog device I've seen on DE's, which is more like a box bristing with the warheads...but it does prove some devices were at least trialed on DD's...

By the way, finally got my Buchanan this Sat and I was blown away by the kit !!! I can only pray Dragon wil produce more classes of Destroyers, hopefully even crossing over to British, Japanese and German types !!! 

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Posted by Tracy White on Sunday, December 21, 2008 1:24 AM

This comes from a friend of mine who has been doing a TON of research in the archives about these and other classes of destroyers:

 Rick E. Davis wrote:
As far as I know, the Benson-Gleaves units did not get Hedge-hogs during WWII.  The DE's and some of the Flush-deckers had hedge-hogs.  There was discussion about adding HH to Benson-Gleaves units in Friedman's destroyer book (and/or Reilly's), but the powers-to-be didn't like the idea.  However, twelve units (DD 493, 609*, 620, 622, 623, 635*, 637*-639*, and 646-648) DID get three Mk 22 ASW Rocket "Mousetrap" systems installed on the forecastle in late 1943.  It didn't last long, they were mounted fixed and were a bear to train for firing by pointing the ship. Only the five ships I have put an "*" on are the round-bridge type ... the rest were square bridge units.

If I remember right the DMS units recommissioned/in use during the 1950's did get hedge-hogs like the Fletchers (Sumners, Gearings).  Also, some of the FMS units were updated with them as well.

Here are three views I pulled up quickly that show the "Mousetrap" installation.  If you want to post one or all on the Finescale forum, go ahead.  I think I have posted some of these on Modelwarships.org.  I know that if I was a crew member on one of the ships firing these things ... I would want to be somewhere else.

My own comments: note that they were collapsible, but not trainable. Note the blast shield visible on deck behind them when folded down 

 

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:46 AM
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 EdGrune wrote:
During the war the Navy increased the AA armament, often to the detriment of the ASW and ASuW armament.  Post-war, on DDE modifications, I think you will find that Hedgehog  replaced the 40mm guns on the forward deckhouse aft of the 52 mount.

This was largely dependant upon theater; ships serving in the atlantic didn't have the same amount of AA upgrades that the pacific theater did. But I would agree that few, if any of the B/Gs received hedge hogs during the war. There may have been a couple, however. 

Awesome, that gives me enough wiggle room to possibly model one of those few...would this system have been mounted forward of the foremost 5 inch mount?
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Posted by Tracy White on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 3:47 PM

 EdGrune wrote:
During the war the Navy increased the AA armament, often to the detriment of the ASW and ASuW armament.  Post-war, on DDE modifications, I think you will find that Hedgehog  replaced the 40mm guns on the forward deckhouse aft of the 52 mount.

This was largely dependant upon theater; ships serving in the atlantic didn't have the same amount of AA upgrades that the pacific theater did. But I would agree that few, if any of the B/Gs received hedge hogs during the war. There may have been a couple, however. 

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:41 PM

 

it has the W shaped screen, five braces (IIRC) and a rod to go through the braces.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:31 PM
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I cannot stress what you have just said enough. The 20mm machineguns are smaller than a pencil eraser and comprise of 7 pieces. I could get all but the snail magazine on.. those like to flie out the tweezers into oblivian.

 the Bofors were a Censored [censored] too, but not as bad. lots of small small parts. I have to remove my glasses and/or contacts to do them well (need em for distance clarity). The cyber hobby radar took me a couple hours. Black Eye [B)]

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 I got the Cyber Hobby Upgrade with both my kits. I think it is a good deal. The radar is well done and the railings top notch. Not as crazy as the other pricy one that was linked to here but with in my skill level. From what I have heard dealing with the tiny PE gun parts is like brain surgery.

I thought the Cyber PE radar was pre-formed???
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Posted by airtrans Crash on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:12 PM
thanks for the tip Dreadnought52, I'll have to swipe a pair of the Wife's tweezers when she is at work Mischief [:-,]
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Posted by EdGrune on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:37 AM

 Mansteins revenge wrote:

Awesome, now one more question: Did any of them mount "hedgehog" anti-sub launchers? I want to scratch one and mount it if it was indeed put on these ships...


Do some research (Navsource.org, destroyerhistory.org, etc.) on your own.

I think you will find that the Hedgehog was not a common installation on the Benson/Gleaves and Fletcher classes during the war.   During the war the Navy increased the AA armament, often to the detriment of the ASW and ASuW armament.  Post-war, on DDE modifications, I think you will find that Hedgehog  replaced the 40mm guns on the forward deckhouse aft of the 52 mount.

Hedgehog was a common weapon on DEs which had more of a role in wartime ASW than their larger cousins.

 

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Posted by Dreadnought52 on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:55 AM
 airtrans Crash wrote:

I cannot stress what you have just said enough. The 20mm machineguns are smaller than a pencil eraser and comprise of 7 pieces. I could get all but the snail magazine on.. those like to flie out the tweezers into oblivian.

 the Bofors were a Censored [censored] too, but not as bad. lots of small small parts. I have to remove my glasses and/or contacts to do them well (need em for distance clarity). The cyber hobby radar took me a couple hours. Black Eye [B)]

 sfcmac wrote:
 I got the Cyber Hobby Upgrade with both my kits. I think it is a good deal. The radar is well done and the railings top notch. Not as crazy as the other pricy one that was linked to here but with in my skill level. From what I have heard dealing with the tiny PE gun parts is like brain surgery.



This is a suggestion to help alleviate the "whinging" across the room effect on small parts while working with metal tweezers: I took a set of medium ended tweezers and superglued thin rubber pads to the inner ends. Now when they grasp a small part they "grip" it with much less slippage. WS


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Posted by Tracy White on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:46 PM
Not that I've seen, but I'll check with a friend of mine and see; he's got a lot more time researching the class than I.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 10:38 PM
 Tracy White wrote:
Additionally, most of them did their shakedowns in the atlantic.
Awesome, now one more question: Did any of them mount "hedgehog" anti-sub launchers? I want to scratch one and mount it if it was indeed put on these ships...
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Posted by Jester75 on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 6:15 PM
Got mine today unfortunately without the Cyberhobby PE, seems it is on backorder!! Sure is one very sweet looking kit in the box. Those figs are outstanding!!

Eric

 

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Posted by EdGrune on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:05 PM

... And for you AirTrans, a couple of pages from destroyerhistory.org which might be of interest you.

http://www.destroyerhistory.org/benson-gleavesclass/ussemmons/index.html

http://www.destroyerhistory.org/benson-gleavesclass/ussemmons/research457.html

Happy Holidays

 

 

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:00 PM
Manstein's revenge - Did any of these serve in the Atlantic?

 

 

Actually the one I am converting to is the USS Emmons which is currently sitting at about 150ft below sea level here at Okinawa. She actually had many confirmed kills on D-Day in Normandy taking out shore guns.

she was converted to a fast mine sweeper before coming here to meet her demise

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Posted by EdGrune on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:33 PM

 Mansteins revenge wrote:

Cool...thanks!  What was the primary improvement(s) the Fletcher class had over the the Gleaves class???

Go here http://www.destroyerhistory.org/fletcherclass/index.html.   Good summary.  Larger, faster, better armed ...

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:19 PM
 EdGrune wrote:
 Mansteins revenge wrote:

Did any of these serve in the Atlantic???---I wanna do miner as a sub-killer... 

They were involved in the Atlantic & Mediterranean operations.   Their role increased as more Fletchers came online and were assigned to the Pacific.   Benson/Gleaves were withdrawn from the Pacific and moved to the Atlantic.  

See destroyerhistory.org's index page on the Benson/Gleaves and follow links to specific ships

http://www.destroyerhistory.org/benson-gleavesclass/index.html

Four of the five US destroyers sunk or damaged at Normandy were Benson/Gleaves (Corry, Glennon, Harding, & Nelson).   Other Benson/Livermores; the Lansdale, Bristol, and Beatty were also sunk by German action.

Cool...thanks!  What was the primary improvement(s) the Fletcher class had over the the Gleaves class???
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Posted by Tracy White on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:52 PM
Additionally, most of them did their shakedowns in the atlantic.

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Posted by EdGrune on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:37 AM
 Mansteins revenge wrote:

Did any of these serve in the Atlantic???---I wanna do miner as a sub-killer... 

They were involved in the Atlantic & Mediterranean operations.   Their role increased as more Fletchers came online and were assigned to the Pacific.   Benson/Gleaves were withdrawn from the Pacific and moved to the Atlantic.  

See destroyerhistory.org's index page on the Benson/Gleaves and follow links to specific ships

http://www.destroyerhistory.org/benson-gleavesclass/index.html

Four of the five US destroyers sunk or damaged at Normandy were Benson/Gleaves (Corry, Glennon, Harding, & Nelson).   Other Benson/Livermores; the Lansdale, Bristol, and Beatty were also sunk by German action.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 9:22 AM

I finally broke down and ordered mine yesterday...I got it straight from Dragon USA for $42 (includes the the CyberHobby) PE upgrade and shipping) !!!

Did any of these serve in the Atlantic???---I wanna do miner as a sub-killer... 

 

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:56 PM

I cannot stress what you have just said enough. The 20mm machineguns are smaller than a pencil eraser and comprise of 7 pieces. I could get all but the snail magazine on.. those like to flie out the tweezers into oblivian.

 the Bofors were a Censored [censored] too, but not as bad. lots of small small parts. I have to remove my glasses and/or contacts to do them well (need em for distance clarity). The cyber hobby radar took me a couple hours. Black Eye [B)]

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 I got the Cyber Hobby Upgrade with both my kits. I think it is a good deal. The radar is well done and the railings top notch. Not as crazy as the other pricy one that was linked to here but with in my skill level. From what I have heard dealing with the tiny PE gun parts is like brain surgery.

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Saturday, December 13, 2008 1:33 AM
I did the same...  just got the tracking number.  I dont know if i need it but its coming.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 12, 2008 5:33 PM
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 Jester75 wrote:
After reading this thread in its entirety, my Buchanan is on the way along with the $2.00 Cyber-Hobby PE set from Dragon USA!! Looking forward to finding this one sitting on the doorstep!!
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Posted by Jester75 on Friday, December 12, 2008 4:27 PM
After reading this thread in its entirety, my Buchanan is on the way along with the $2.00 Cyber-Hobby PE set from Dragon USA!! Looking forward to finding this one sitting on the doorstep!!

Eric

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, December 12, 2008 3:50 PM
 I got the Cyber Hobby Upgrade with both my kits. I think it is a good deal. The radar is well done and the railings top notch. Not as crazy as the other pricy one that was linked to here but with in my skill level. From what I have heard dealing with the tiny PE gun parts is like brain surgery.
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Posted by JMart on Friday, December 12, 2008 3:37 PM

Is the Cyberhobby PE fret any good? I mean, its just 2$ bundled up but wondering if you need anything else, or just generic WW2 DD ladders/railings and such.

 

 

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Posted by Tracy White on Monday, December 8, 2008 10:49 PM

 williamsfw28 wrote:
I was affraid it was going to be a no,  I have both of those kits but at this stage of the game not looking to bash the two kits together.  I still want the Dragon kit so the Buchanan it is.

You can bash the two together, a company called L'arsenal also has an update/accurizing set you can purchase as well, albeit I'm not sure if it gives you the exact details for the fit you'd need.... 

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Posted by ps1scw on Monday, December 8, 2008 9:44 PM
 EdGrune wrote:
 williamsfw28 wrote:

  I was wondering if the this kit could be used to make the USS Johnston? Im not a ship builder but was facinated with her after watching(Dog Fights) what her Capt. did at the battle of Layette Gulf.

 

thank you 

No, the Johnston of the Battle of Samar was a square-bridge Fletcher.   Your choice in 1:350 scale-styrene is the Trumpeter 'The Sullivans'.  There are problems with the secondary armament - and the non-skid walkways are more like concrete sidewalks than rubber bath mats.  The Tamiya 1:350 scale Fletcher is a round-bridge variant.

The Laffey is a Benson.  It along with the Gleaves (i.e. Buchanan) was the class which preceeded the Fletchers.   The Benson/Gleaves had a break in the deck levels.   The Fletcher's deck was all one level.

Wow, sounds like if you like WWII U.S. Navy Destroyers you'll be in Heaven with all these choices. 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Monday, December 8, 2008 8:35 PM
I was affraid it was going to be a no,  I have both of those kits but at this stage of the game not looking to bash the two kits together.  I still want the Dragon kit so the Buchanan it is.

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Posted by EdGrune on Monday, December 8, 2008 8:13 PM
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  I was wondering if the this kit could be used to make the USS Johnston? Im not a ship builder but was facinated with her after watching(Dog Fights) what her Capt. did at the battle of Layette Gulf.

 

thank you 

No, the Johnston of the Battle of Samar was a square-bridge Fletcher.   Your choice in 1:350 scale-styrene is the Trumpeter 'The Sullivans'.  There are problems with the secondary armament - and the non-skid walkways are more like concrete sidewalks than rubber bath mats.  The Tamiya 1:350 scale Fletcher is a round-bridge variant.

The Laffey is a Benson.  It along with the Gleaves (i.e. Buchanan) was the class which preceeded the Fletchers.   The Benson/Gleaves had a break in the deck levels.   The Fletcher's deck was all one level.

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Monday, December 8, 2008 8:03 PM

  I was wondering if the this kit could be used to make the USS Johnston? Im not a ship builder but was facinated with her after watching(Dog Fights) what her Capt. did at the battle of Leyte Gulf.

 

thank you 

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Posted by EdGrune on Monday, December 8, 2008 8:35 AM

Yes hull bottom is molded separately from hull.   Bottom is molded same color as rest of parts -- not in red plastic

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 8, 2008 7:58 AM
Does this kit have the waterline and full-hull option?
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Posted by ModelWarships on Tuesday, December 2, 2008 10:00 AM
Here is a picture from the In Action Book. May help with the color question.

 Please note that the image shown in the In Action book is not the Buchanan. It is simply a generic DD painted to look like the Buchanan. Some of the most obvious errors include the deckhouse under the bridge lacks the steamlined front that should extend beyond the front of the bridge, the exposed aft funnel trunking was covered on the Buchanan, and the searchlight platform is too short. Those are the most obvious errors, but there are many more. If you need good photos of the Buchanan, Classic Warships has a new book due out in a couple of months on the Buchanan. It will include full color views of the camo pattern.

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 8:23 PM

for those that cannot see the lines on the Gator mask I saw in another thread that someone had taken a soft pencil or a crayon and rubbed in on the mask, then wiped it off... the graphite or crayon stayed in the cracks, making them more visible.

 

mine will be in measure 22 so I dont need to use a mask..

 

lets see some progress pictures!

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Posted by sfcmac on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 3:24 PM
 JMart wrote:

Gator's mask

http://gatorsmask.com/

350 a sickness? Let me enable you a bit....

http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=4447

http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=127375&page=1

http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=4452

http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=4443

 

 

Here is the link Squeakie! The Gator Mask got hit pretty hard by Ike but I think they are back up and running! They were just a bit delayed in sending mine but got it here. They should be back on track now. The owner makes his living making signs. The colored version may not be a bad idea especially given the size and our old eyes. Confused [%-)]

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Posted by squeakie on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 11:36 AM
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 Hey Y'all just trying to keep updated on this kit! I think I have received the last thing I can get for this ship which was the mask I had ask about earlier. Been posting pics of whatever I get so you can get an idea of what it is.  So here ya go.

I don't know how sucessful I was basically the the picture on the paper has been laser cut onto the vinyl sheet. Instructions are included on application and removal using a Star and Bar mask as an example. Suggest using a tackey tape to place onto the model. Looks tricky but claims it is easy.  Nothing on the colors or what mask needs removed in what order to get the pattern. Gotta figure that out for yourself. Basically you get a laser cut vinyl sticker which is what I expected it to be.

 Hope this helps you all decide what you need to complete this ship.

Wingnut ! Get that elbow fixed and mended! Feels like one of our first string quarterbacks is on the injured reserve list!  Get well soon !

Here is a picture from the In Action Book. May help with the color question.

I found a Buchanan in my local LHS a few days ago, and been thinking about buying. But after looking at this, I think I want it. Where did you happen to find the mask? Also is the camo pattern hard edged? Only thing that bothers me about the ship in that scale is the size of it and my old eyes.

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Posted by EdGrune on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:58 AM

I posted earlier in response to a question by saberking ...

 EdGrune wrote:
 sabreking wrote:

I need to know if any after market photo etch parts have been released for USS Buchanan, such as railings. If so, where can I find them? Thanks for reading.

Gold Medal Models has made a set for the Buchanan ... 

<<SNIP>>

In addition Tom's Modelworks has labeled their Buckley set #3558 was applicable for the Buchanan also.

Tom Harrison posted on SteelNavy that he was having a sale on his photoetched products until the end of the year

http://www.tomsmodelworks.com/catalog/

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Posted by Kenny Loup on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:44 AM

Gator's masks now come like this and will have an option to have the color seperated, which will add to the cost:

 

Color seperated option:

 

 

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Monday, November 24, 2008 11:09 PM
 EdGrune wrote:

Look again more closely.  They're twins.   The one to the right is elevated such that the two barrels appear to align as one, but there are two muzzle flares.   The left one is not elevated as much and shows the split between the barrels better

 

I tried to set them the way they are actually sitting on the Emmons at 130 ft below

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Posted by EdGrune on Monday, November 24, 2008 9:51 AM

Look again more closely.  They're twins.   The one to the right is elevated such that the two barrels appear to align as one, but there are two muzzle flares.   The left one is not elevated as much and shows the split between the barrels better

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 24, 2008 9:46 AM
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negative, they are the 40 mm bofors
Well, they rock...single barrell bofors?
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Posted by airtrans Crash on Monday, November 24, 2008 7:22 AM
negative, they are the 40 mm bofors
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 24, 2008 7:19 AM
 airtrans Crash wrote:

wow, here is the best I can get for pictures, I need to learn how to use my fancy camera on the Macro scale

 

 

Wow...are those the three-inch guns?
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Posted by airtrans Crash on Monday, November 24, 2008 3:33 AM
$32.. ouch. lol. I'll have to sweet talk my wife into that
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Posted by Tracy White on Sunday, November 23, 2008 6:18 PM
I've got two of the things and while more expensive than the CyberHobby set, they are more extensive and much crisper in their detail

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Sunday, November 23, 2008 2:31 PM
sweet,I am going to have to get that for myself.
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Posted by EdGrune on Sunday, November 23, 2008 2:13 PM
 sabreking wrote:

I need to know if any after market photo etch parts have been released for USS Buchanan, such as railings. If so, where can I find them? Thanks for reading.

Gold Medal Models has made a set for the Buchanan.  It has the

http://www.goldmm.com/ships/gms350-45.htm

Dragon/Cyberhobby also makes a set of railings & MK37 radar array to go with the Dragon kit.

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Posted by sabreking on Sunday, November 23, 2008 12:55 PM

I need to know if any after market photo etch parts have been released for USS Buchanan, such as railings. If so, where can I find them? Thanks for reading.

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Saturday, November 22, 2008 7:50 PM

wow, here is the best I can get for pictures, I need to learn how to use my fancy camera on the Macro scale

 

 

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 4:43 PM

 ModelWarships wrote:
I built several test versions of the kit. My advice if you just want a nice gun without being a detail nut is to leave off the ammo can and PE parts. You will still have an amazing little gun and most of us will not be able to see the missing parts without putting on our glasses. Case in point is Tom Foti's build in the reviews section.
after having two of the ammo cans fly off into the abyss I said screw it, all the PE is on, just not that cursed can.

I have the decking glued to the hull and am going to paint it up a bit.

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Posted by ModelWarships on Friday, November 7, 2008 11:50 AM
I built several test versions of the kit. My advice if you just want a nice gun without being a detail nut is to leave off the ammo can and PE parts. You will still have an amazing little gun and most of us will not be able to see the missing parts without putting on our glasses. Case in point is Tom Foti's build in the reviews section.

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Friday, November 7, 2008 8:42 AM

anyone else building their buchanan?

the 20mm AA guns are tiny as heck and are a pain!

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Sunday, October 26, 2008 8:17 AM
theres a few 1945 kits on Evilbay fellas
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Posted by JMart on Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:07 PM

lol you have me beat! Funny, I had 2-3 350s in the stand-alone closet I use for my Navy uniforms (including the Nagato and a carrier). Wife found them last week, when she was helping me get my blues ready....  oopsie! :) 

and if you dont know how to display all your 350s, here is an idea...

http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=126670&page=1

 

 

 

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:14 PM

 Why thank you JMart! There are indeed many uses for the larger scale ships 1/350 sickness!

One of my favorites is when my wife says I have too many models is to seal her in the bathroom with them. You can leave a slot to pass food through using the destroyer boxes. Your choice.

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Posted by sfcmac on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:36 PM
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 sfcmac wrote:
I need to find the link to that camo mask that was for the earlier version. May be a useful short cut?

Not for the '45 release; she was in Measure 22. The company in question is probably Gator's Masks.

 Here ya go Wingnut! Tracy reposted this for me earlier and I ordered it.  Yeah Chuck used pastel dust didn't he. To outline the pattern?  I'll go back and check.  I feel for you and that elbow. Don't realize how much you use them till ya can't.

Get well! Heal quick cuz I sez so! Angel [angel]

That is a fine idea about marking them as well, As above the size of this ship is really not very large and it looks to be brain surgery in some area's.  I still want to see Manny detail those figures!

I have a pretty complete of to be built 1/350 Destroyers now. I think it is a sickness.

I forgot the Gator company with the mask is owned by a sign maker by trade.  He has some hints about appling the mask using tacky tape? Anyone ever use this method?

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:12 PM

Aaron, I am working on getting the wing better.  Doc said its a loooong process.

If I were you, I would color the paper camo with thecorrect colors then figure out a legend for the pattern... 1 color is left hash marks, another color is dots...whetever.  Then transfer those patterns to the mask sheet.  Did you see what Chukw did to his helldiver masks?  He covered the sheet with pencil then wiped it off and it outlined each individual mask.Looks like a good idea here too.

 

Did you say where you got the mask set?  if you did I missed it.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:10 PM
Wow...nice work.  I didn't realize how small the kit was either--the dollar bill really puts it in perspective...Also makes the level of detail all the more impressive...
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Posted by JMart on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:00 PM
Looking good AND small... thanks for sharing!

 

 

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 6:10 AM
 sfcmac wrote:

 airtrans Crash wrote:
my Buchanan is here! wow, I am not a ship guy so I was taken aback at how small a 1/350 scale destroyer is. now to figure how to transform this sucker into the USS Emmons, fast mine sweeper destroyed by 5 Kamikazis during the battle of Okinawa

You may have these already but I figured Hey While Im in the mode!

Manny I have been looking for that Hipper scheme for ya too!

WOW! I haven't seen those pictures yet! thanks.

Here is her Superstructure at 140 below :(

and here is my mockup progression, nothing glued down to the deck yet... the PE antenna was a Pain!

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Monday, October 20, 2008 4:29 PM

 airtrans Crash wrote:
my Buchanan is here! wow, I am not a ship guy so I was taken aback at how small a 1/350 scale destroyer is. now to figure how to transform this sucker into the USS Emmons, fast mine sweeper destroyed by 5 Kamikazis during the battle of Okinawa

You may have these already but I figured Hey While Im in the mode!

Manny I have been looking for that Hipper scheme for ya too!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 20, 2008 3:56 PM
Cool !!!
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Posted by sfcmac on Monday, October 20, 2008 3:53 PM

 Hey Y'all just trying to keep updated on this kit! I think I have received the last thing I can get for this ship which was the mask I had ask about earlier. Been posting pics of whatever I get so you can get an idea of what it is.  So here ya go.

I don't know how sucessful I was basically the the picture on the paper has been laser cut onto the vinyl sheet. Instructions are included on application and removal using a Star and Bar mask as an example. Suggest using a tackey tape to place onto the model. Looks tricky but claims it is easy.  Nothing on the colors or what mask needs removed in what order to get the pattern. Gotta figure that out for yourself. Basically you get a laser cut vinyl sticker which is what I expected it to be.

 Hope this helps you all decide what you need to complete this ship.

Wingnut ! Get that elbow fixed and mended! Feels like one of our first string quarterbacks is on the injured reserve list!  Get well soon !

Here is a picture from the In Action Book. May help with the color question.

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Posted by ps1scw on Monday, October 20, 2008 2:24 PM

 Tracy White wrote:
Not necessarily in that order (waterline up is 5-N, 5-O, 5-H), but yes.

Overall Haze Gray w/Navy Blue and Ocean Gray Camo?

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Posted by Tracy White on Monday, October 20, 2008 10:43 AM
Not necessarily in that order (waterline up is 5-N, 5-O, 5-H), but yes.

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Posted by ps1scw on Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:15 PM

To paint her in Measure 12 Modified, White Ensign is the source for Deck Blue 20-B, Navy Blue 5-N, Haze Gray 5-H and Ocean Gray 5-O correct?

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Posted by Tracy White on Sunday, October 5, 2008 11:17 AM

 EdGrune wrote:
NAVSOURCE is ther best reference site available for US Naval ships. 

There is also DestroyerHistory.org as well, but in this case their page on the Emmons will not be of much help with details. There is plenty of history there though, so it's worth a link.

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Saturday, October 4, 2008 9:13 PM
 ps1scw wrote:

 airtrans Crash wrote:
im stuck on Okinawa so most things needed are ordered through mail.

You should be playing with the girls not models. Big Smile [:D]

married witha son otherwise i would be Wink [;)]
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Posted by ps1scw on Saturday, October 4, 2008 7:49 PM

 airtrans Crash wrote:
im stuck on Okinawa so most things needed are ordered through mail.

You should be playing with the girls not models. Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Saturday, October 4, 2008 7:31 AM
im stuck on Okinawa so most things needed are ordered through mail.
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Posted by EdGrune on Saturday, October 4, 2008 7:17 AM

This may have been pointed out before, but here it is again.  NAVSOURCE is ther best reference site available for US Naval ships.  This is the link to the high speed minesweeper page which includes the Benson/Livermore conversions (right column)

http://www.navsource.org/archives/11/09idx.htm

There is only one shot of the Emmons, at a distance.  It is from her service as a DD - not a DMS.   But peruse the rest of the list.  There are a couple of good shots of the Quick & Thompson which show the gear. 

The major change will be to delete the #4 5-inch gun and replace it with a cable drum.  Add some davits to handle the sweep gear and some other structures on the fantail.   The conversion will touch little of the area forward of the #4 gun.  Build that out of the box.   For the conversion, styrene sheet & strip stock will be your best bet.   Perhaps some repurposed model railroad items (my mind's eye goes to a PRR radio antenna set in PE which looks like a spoked wheel - great for the cable drum!)

 

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Saturday, October 4, 2008 6:13 AM
my Buchanan is here! wow, I am not a ship guy so I was taken aback at how small a 1/350 scale destroyer is. now to figure how to transform this sucker into the USS Emmons, fast mine sweeper destroyed by 5 Kamikazis during the battle of Okinawa
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:13 PM
 sfcmac wrote:
 Tracy White wrote:

 sfcmac wrote:
I need to find the link to that camo mask that was for the earlier version. May be a useful short cut?

Not for the '45 release; she was in Measure 22. The company in question is probably Gator's Masks.

Thanks that is it they were out due to the storm as well.  I'm a sick fellow. I got both of them the 42 and 45 version.  I forgot I ordered the 45 version as Manny posted that link on the previous page and I couldn't resist. It is his fault totally! I can't be blamed for my own obcessions after all! Thanks!

LOL...anything I can do to help....
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Posted by ModelWarships on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 11:05 AM

 Tracy White wrote:
Not for the '45 release; she was in Measure 22

 

That should be Ms. 21

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:32 PM
 Tracy White wrote:

 sfcmac wrote:
I need to find the link to that camo mask that was for the earlier version. May be a useful short cut?

Not for the '45 release; she was in Measure 22. The company in question is probably Gator's Masks.

Thanks that is it they were out due to the storm as well.  I'm a sick fellow. I got both of them the 42 and 45 version.  I forgot I ordered the 45 version as Manny posted that link on the previous page and I couldn't resist. It is his fault totally! I can't be blamed for my own obcessions after all! Thanks!

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Posted by Tracy White on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 5:59 PM

 sfcmac wrote:
I need to find the link to that camo mask that was for the earlier version. May be a useful short cut?

Not for the '45 release; she was in Measure 22. The company in question is probably Gator's Masks.

 

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:08 PM

 Got my second Buchanan Today. The Cyberhobby version hooked me with the last chance sale of the 1945 version. Got it from Dragon USA and they included the PE set . Was a pretty fair deal on the both as I recall.

I included some photo's of the package contents just to show this free extra gift that came with it.  I figure Manny had some input as it is a Can DO pocket Army Feldgendarmerie w/ dogs. So order a ship and get a 1/35 dog handler as a bonus. Has to be Manny if if only subliminally!

The quality of the figure and German shepard are vey good. Some one with diarama and painting skills might actually find these figures as a useful addition for parts poses extc. Too bad no one comes to mind. Whistling [:-^]Wink [;)]

I need to find the link to that camo mask that was for the earlier version. May be a useful short cut?

BTW Manny thanks for the Iron Bottom Sound scans they are very cool and great refs!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 22, 2008 7:02 AM
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email sent today.. my Buchanan has been shipped! Party [party]
Cool, can't wait to see some pics, man! 
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Posted by airtrans Crash on Friday, September 19, 2008 5:44 PM
email sent today.. my Buchanan has been shipped! Party [party]
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Posted by squeakie on Thursday, September 18, 2008 6:09 PM

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Cool...a lot of folks don't appreciate the hard-fought battles around the Solomons during '42-'43...I think mostly because it involved less glamourous ships than Carriers or Battleships...I have read of some hellacious night battles betwwen cruisers...and often the Americans got the bloodier nose for it...

I suggest you read up on the Battle For The Savo Straits. There was so many skirmishes involving destroyers that it's almost mindboggeling

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:05 PM
still on backorder for the 45 limited run.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 25, 2008 9:36 AM
 EdGrune wrote:

The 1942 version of the Buchanan is available from the ususal online store suspects.   I've seen it on the Squadron and Sprue Brothers sites.   Check the sites of the advertizers who support this site.    I bought mine from Dragon/Cyberhobby

http://www.cyber-hobby.com/shop/

The 1945 version is a limited run kit.    There were a few left over inventory from the IPMS Nats supplied to Freetime Hobbies,  but they are now sold out.    You may still be able to buy some from the Cyberhobby online store.

--EDIT 0855 - 23AUG08 --

Just got an email from Dragon/Cyberhobby.  They are sold out of the 1945 Buchanans also.  

-- END EDIT --

Online ordering from most online shops is quite easy with a credit card or paypal.  Most sites have a shopping cart system which make it easy for you to spend your money.  Shipping to Okinawa may add some to the cost, if you are military it may be cheaper.

Try Hobby Link-Japan (hlj.com) or Rainbow-10.   They may be able to get it to you more inexpensively from Japan than from a Stateside operation.

 

CyberHobby notified me this morning that they are taking pre-orders for one more batch of the '45 version and then they will be gone...$39.95...

 

 

 

1/350 Cyber Hobby USS Buchanan DD-484 Tokyo Bay 1945 SOLD OUT

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Posted by ww2modeler on Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:55 AM

 For the equivelent of the Fletchers:

I'm going to guess that for the Germans the Z23 or Z46 class.

For the Japanese maybe the Asashio or Atkitsuki.

Don't quote me on this though.

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:16 AM
thanks for the info!
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Posted by EdGrune on Saturday, August 23, 2008 7:45 AM

The 1942 version of the Buchanan is available from the ususal online store suspects.   I've seen it on the Squadron and Sprue Brothers sites.   Check the sites of the advertizers who support this site.    I bought mine from Dragon/Cyberhobby

http://www.cyber-hobby.com/shop/

The 1945 version is a limited run kit.    There were a few left over inventory from the IPMS Nats supplied to Freetime Hobbies,  but they are now sold out.    You may still be able to buy some from the Cyberhobby online store.

--EDIT 0855 - 23AUG08 --

Just got an email from Dragon/Cyberhobby.  They are sold out of the 1945 Buchanans also.  

-- END EDIT --

Online ordering from most online shops is quite easy with a credit card or paypal.  Most sites have a shopping cart system which make it easy for you to spend your money.  Shipping to Okinawa may add some to the cost, if you are military it may be cheaper.

Try Hobby Link-Japan (hlj.com) or Rainbow-10.   They may be able to get it to you more inexpensively from Japan than from a Stateside operation.

 

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Saturday, August 23, 2008 6:35 AM

where is the best place to get the Buchanan? she'll convert to the 1944 mine sweeping version of the Emmons, so I dont need the 45 version.

I have never bought a model online 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 22, 2008 10:48 PM
 Tracy White wrote:
Patience...
Hmmmm...don't tease me like that...I don't know a lot about the different classes of Japanese destroyers but I'd for sure shell out money for one rendered as nicely as the Buchanan...what is the Japanese or German equivalent to, say, the "Fletcher" class?
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Posted by Tracy White on Friday, August 22, 2008 6:58 PM
Patience...

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 22, 2008 9:30 AM
I would love to see DML give the same treatment to a Japanese or German destroyer !!!
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Posted by ModelWarships on Monday, August 18, 2008 12:18 PM

Dragon has them at http://www.dragonusaonline.com/

It is a limited edition and will not be run again.

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Posted by EdGrune on Saturday, August 16, 2008 6:25 AM

Just got an email from the Dragon/Cyberhobby online store.  

They have a 'limited number' of the special run 1945 Buchanans available.  They are a penny less than what I paid for mine, plus you have to pay for shipping.   The photoetched rails and preformed MK37 radar set for the Buchanan is also available at the special convention rate.   

Google Cyberhobby for the website.  

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Posted by EdGrune on Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:20 PM

So do all kits come with the '42 and '45 options?

No.  Stock Number 1021 is the 1942 version.   Stock number 1030 is the 1945 version.   The boxes are different,.  What is planned with the intervening numbers ... the Bensons,  pre-war versions ... ?   

In addition to the figures mentioned previously, there is a difference in the included PE items, including them late-war 40mm deck and the extra 20mm on the bridge face.  If you buy a '45 you get most of a '42.  You buy a '42 and you don't get the '45 parts

Free Time Hobbies tried to buy the excess stock from Dragon after the convention but was told no.   They may appear on the Cyberhobby site -- or they may become a collectors item.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:54 PM
 EdGrune wrote:

Picked up the '45 Buchanan at the Nats.   The bulk of the parts from the '42 version are in a special box ( the 6 crew men are not there).  It comes with a set of sprues which comprise the difference between the '42 qnd '45 versions.  In place of the crew are figures of MacArthur and Nimitz Question [?] and Halsey Question [?]The Buchanan delivered MacArthur to the Missouri for the surrender.

Still enroute home.   Full debrief midweek when I get there

So do all kits come with the '42 and '45 options?
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Posted by ps1scw on Thursday, August 14, 2008 3:51 PM
I added only 2 (two) bucks for my PE upgrade set when I ordered from Dragon USA.
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Posted by dr207 on Thursday, August 14, 2008 3:45 PM
Got my update set recently from Sprue Brothers for about $12. If we're talking about the same thing I'd check with them.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2008 3:01 PM
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Got mine today, looks good. The molding is very crisp. A flyer is included for the photoetch "upgrade" set from Cyber-Hobby. Upon checking, found out they want $86 for a very small set!(Railings, radar antennas). However, Squadron or greatModels list the same set for $26 !! of course, they're both currently out of stock.....
I suspect that's an error---or maybe it was the kit plus the upgrade???? Still seems high....
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Posted by drdull on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:25 PM

Yeah - the Cyber PE for Buchanan was cheap with the pre-order.  I can't believe that they'd ask $86 for it.  Even the $26 seems high for what you get - railings and the pre-shaped fire control radar.  No ladders, no search radar, no depth charge racks, no platforms.  Unless they've added to the original, I'd be tempted to go with the generic DD/DE detail PE that I think is sold by Tom's.

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Posted by Glamdring on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:22 PM

 bob36281 wrote:
Got mine today, looks good. The molding is very crisp. A flyer is included for the photoetch "upgrade" set from Cyber-Hobby. Upon checking, found out they want $86 for a very small set!(Railings, radar antennas). However, Squadron or greatModels list the same set for $26 !! of course, they're both currently out of stock.....

Perhaps it's a different set, but weren't they offering the same set with Buchanon preorders for $10?

Robert 

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Posted by bob36281 on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:53 PM
Got mine today, looks good. The molding is very crisp. A flyer is included for the photoetch "upgrade" set from Cyber-Hobby. Upon checking, found out they want $86 for a very small set!(Railings, radar antennas). However, Squadron or greatModels list the same set for $26 !! of course, they're both currently out of stock.....
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Posted by EdGrune on Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:29 PM

Picked up the '45 Buchanan at the Nats.   The bulk of the parts from the '42 version are in a special box ( the 6 crew men are not there).  It comes with a set of sprues which comprise the difference between the '42 qnd '45 versions.  In place of the crew are figures of MacArthur and Nimitz Question [?] and Halsey Question [?]The Buchanan delivered MacArthur to the Missouri for the surrender.

Still enroute home.   Full debrief midweek when I get there

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Posted by bayoutider on Thursday, August 7, 2008 2:56 PM
Mine came in the mail today along with the PE and a free item. What am I supposed to do with a 1:35 (eyeball guess) scale german soldier factory painted????
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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, August 6, 2008 7:13 AM

SCORE!!!!  Early b'day present.  The Buchanan and the PE set.

 

Marc  

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Posted by bayoutider on Tuesday, August 5, 2008 1:16 PM

 JMart wrote:
bayoutider - welcome aboard! Look forward to yoru build blogs, some GREat stuff you have on your bench-pier.. cheers

 Being an old model railroad guy I'm really into dioramas more than static display. Some ideas I have so far is the Arizona & Vestal the day before the attack tied to the Quays at Pearl with maybe a liberty boat in the water. A row of destroyers at anchor in port. The USS Lexington doing plane launch or recovery, same for the USS Franklin. Liberty Ship and Destroyer Escort in heavy seas of the Atlantic. Liberty Ship being loaded at dock. USS Alabama anchored or at sea with DD, same for North Carolina and Missouri. 

What a cool model it would be to have a carrier passing the Arizona monument with sailors manning the rail. We did this when on the USS Coral Sea pulled into Pearl back in '67. Who would be up to the task of painting all those little people or the expense?

Any other ideas? Shelf sizes are limited to 12"X42". Hope I can complete all this, my end is closer than my beginning LOL. At least I am retired. 

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Posted by JMart on Sunday, August 3, 2008 6:00 PM
bayoutider - welcome aboard! Look forward to yoru build blogs, some GREat stuff you have on your bench-pier.. cheers

 

 

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Posted by EdGrune on Saturday, August 2, 2008 6:47 PM
 bayoutider wrote:

Any idea what size builders in scale chain I should use for anchor chain for the Vestal and Arizona? 40 links per inch or 27?? 

I like Tiger Models vary fine chain for cruiser-sized ships & smaller in 1:350 scale.   Go with their fine chain for battleships & carriers in that scale.   Available wherever armor aftermarket stuff is sold

I don't have the dimensions for the Arizona's chains,  but according to the Floating Drydocks plan book for the Missouri,  individual chain links were 21 inches long by 12.5 inches wide.

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Posted by bayoutider on Saturday, August 2, 2008 11:22 AM
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 Tracy White wrote:
Just as a FYI, Commander just moved... I'm not sure if he's completely set up to ship quite yet.

Jon is up and running Tracy.

I've corresponded with another poster from this forum who has ordered since the move and has already received his order.

Jon will be at the IPMS Nats, starting Wednesday, so he will be away from his base of operations.   He may be able to get your emails, but will probably not be able to process orders until he gets back home on Sunday.

He emailed me back yesterday and said he had one USS Vestal in stock and put my name on it. I sent my credit card info in several emails to him for payment. He said he would be in Va. Beach till thursday and take care of it for me.

Again, thanks for the help.

Any idea what size builders in scale chain I should use for anchor chain for the Vestal and Arizona? 40 links per inch or 27?? 

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Posted by EdGrune on Saturday, August 2, 2008 5:44 AM

 Tracy White wrote:
Just as a FYI, Commander just moved... I'm not sure if he's completely set up to ship quite yet.

Jon is up and running Tracy.

I've corresponded with another poster from this forum who has ordered since the move and has already received his order.

Jon will be at the IPMS Nats, starting Wednesday, so he will be away from his base of operations.   He may be able to get your emails, but will probably not be able to process orders until he gets back home on Sunday.

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Posted by Tracy White on Friday, August 1, 2008 10:13 PM
Just as a FYI, Commander just moved... I'm not sure if he's completely set up to ship quite yet.

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Posted by bayoutider on Friday, August 1, 2008 5:29 PM
 EdGrune wrote:
 bayoutider wrote:

 I had enough left over to buy the Buchanan and detail kit from Dragon. I have several 1/350 kits started and unbuilt that I plan to complete now that I have time. I want to do a diorama of the USS Arizona at Pearl Harbor but need the resin model for the Vestal which I cant find anywhere.........help.

Vestal is here

http://www.commanderseries.com/pages/Vestal.html

Thanks for the link. I just emailed them to order one.

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Posted by EdGrune on Friday, August 1, 2008 3:53 PM
 bayoutider wrote:

 I had enough left over to buy the Buchanan and detail kit from Dragon. I have several 1/350 kits started and unbuilt that I plan to complete now that I have time. I want to do a diorama of the USS Arizona at Pearl Harbor but need the resin model for the Vestal which I cant find anywhere.........help.

Vestal is here

http://www.commanderseries.com/pages/Vestal.html

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Posted by bayoutider on Friday, August 1, 2008 3:37 PM

I have been away from the hobby for too long but just renewed my magazine subscription and decided to look at the forum.

 I have been doing some full scale modeling for a couple of years after Hurricane Rita smacked me. Completely remodled the inside of the house, put up new cedar privacy fence, landscaped the yard, new 16X28 covered patio with wet bar and outdoor kitchen and added on to the house one more bedroom and full bath. 

 Thank you Shelter Home Insurance, Fidelity Flood insurance, Red Cross, FEMA, Road Home and my friends and family. 

 I had enough left over to buy the Buchanan and detail kit from Dragon. I have several 1/350 kits started and unbuilt that I plan to complete now that I have time. I want to do a diorama of the USS Arizona at Pearl Harbor but need the resin model for the Vestal which I cant find anywhere.........help.

I also have The Sullivans DD, Yorktown, Franklin, North Carolina, tamaya Fletcher class DD and have the new trumpeter USS Alabama on the way. As you can see I will be busy and on the forum looking for help often.

I am an old H.O. Scale model railroader so I am used to small detail parts and scratch building but any tips I can get or share are appreciated. 

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Posted by ps1scw on Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:23 PM
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Posted by ps1scw on Friday, July 25, 2008 6:40 PM
Get the extra PE for the railings
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Posted by billydelawder on Friday, July 18, 2008 9:14 PM
That's a sweeettttt looking kit!  I know what I want for my birthday in Sept! Whistling [:-^]
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Posted by constructor on Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:52 PM
It will be a good piece to perpetuate the memory of your father-in-law's service to his country.
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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:01 PM

Hey guys I know you grt a lot of ideas from the reviews but I wanted to post a couple pics just to give an idea of the size and detail of the parts. I think you can see why I made the comment on you needing the jewlers magnifier. All in all it is an amazing kit that looks to be a challenge for the fat fingered such as me. I really hope Manny and Wingnut give it a shot. Let me know if there is anything else you would like to see. I have ordered the Cyber Hobby upgrade but it has not arrived yet.Confused [%-)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:29 PM
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 Mansteins revenge wrote:
I'm thinking about buying this kit even though I am primarily an Armor, Dio and Aircraft modeler...any comments about the kit?

You know they say great minds think alike. Even though I make the jump from aircraft to armor, I swore I would draw the line there and NEVER build a ship.  Then I saw the ads for the Buchanan in the mags and thought, "Well... IF I ever bulit a ship...I MIGHT do that one... just MAYBE." 

I may have to draw a new lineWhistling [:-^]

LOL, my line in the sand has moved so much it is not discernable anymore...lol...
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Posted by Tracy White on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:39 PM
Not that I've heard. Given that there's already two Fletcher kits in plastic available I would put it low on the list of likely products.

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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:14 AM

 Mansteins revenge wrote:
I'm thinking about buying this kit even though I am primarily an Armor, Dio and Aircraft modeler...any comments about the kit?

You know they say great minds think alike. Even though I make the jump from aircraft to armor, I swore I would draw the line there and NEVER build a ship.  Then I saw the ads for the Buchanan in the mags and thought, "Well... IF I ever bulit a ship...I MIGHT do that one... just MAYBE." 

I may have to draw a new lineWhistling [:-^]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 14, 2008 2:57 PM
 Tracy White wrote:

 drdull wrote:
Not yet mentioned, but just as important I think, is that the Dragon Buchanan is the only available injection-molded 1/350 kit representing a Gleaves class destroyer.  This opens up many opportunities for modeling important ships.

There will be further released based on the hull as well. If the ship you want to do is in a different time period you might want to wait and see what comes out Whistling [:-^]

I wonder if there is a Fletcher class in the works???
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Posted by Tracy White on Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:02 PM

 drdull wrote:
Not yet mentioned, but just as important I think, is that the Dragon Buchanan is the only available injection-molded 1/350 kit representing a Gleaves class destroyer.  This opens up many opportunities for modeling important ships.

There will be further released based on the hull as well. If the ship you want to do is in a different time period you might want to wait and see what comes out Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by ModelWarships on Friday, July 11, 2008 11:06 PM
There are pics in the review posted here:

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 11, 2008 10:43 PM
 ps1scw wrote:

Not PE, actual plastic, one of the guys actually comes in 2 pieces.  all enlisted w/helmets on.  some skylarking, others manning thier battlestation.

If they are serious about entering the 1/350 ship market, I really think that dragon can clean up if there were to issue: "underway watch" "working party" "manning the guns" etc. 1/350 crew members. 

 

Okay, someone needs to post some pics of these tiny figs...
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Posted by ps1scw on Friday, July 11, 2008 10:27 PM

 sfcmac wrote:
 I really wish they would but they have a similar opportunity with their tracks they have ignored. There are many kits I have that could use a track upgrade. We shall see.

I REALLY agree with that!

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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, July 11, 2008 9:17 PM
 I really wish they would but they have a similar opportunity with their tracks they have ignored. There are many kits I have that could use a track upgrade. We shall see.
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Posted by ps1scw on Friday, July 11, 2008 9:06 PM

Not PE, actual plastic, one of the guys actually comes in 2 pieces.  all enlisted w/helmets on.  some skylarking, others manning thier battlestation.

If they are serious about entering the 1/350 ship market, I really think that dragon can clean up if there were to issue: "underway watch" "working party" "manning the guns" etc. 1/350 crew members. 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 11, 2008 8:40 PM
 sfcmac wrote:

 ps1scw wrote:
PS: I received mine w/the cyber hobby PE upgrade, looks great, you should see the crew! Looks great for that scale.  Dragon could make a mint off 1/350 crew member sets!

 I have seen the 1/350 crew figures in the kit. They even have pockets are there more on the upgrade set? I know even Manny may find the kit figures a bit challenging to paint up to his normal standards. I am still awed by his Battle of the Buldge guys. Perhaps if he gets one of those jewelers eye pieces and some microscopic tools... better not say that too loud.

LOL...thanks (check out my Kharkov figs---much better than the BOB's)...are these figs PE or tiny IM?
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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, July 11, 2008 8:37 PM

 ps1scw wrote:
PS: I received mine w/the cyber hobby PE upgrade, looks great, you should see the crew! Looks great for that scale.  Dragon could make a mint off 1/350 crew member sets!

 I have seen the 1/350 crew figures in the kit. They even have pockets are there more on the upgrade set? I know even Manny may find the kit figures a bit challenging to paint up to his normal standards. I am still awed by his Battle of the Buldge guys. Perhaps if he gets one of those jewelers eye pieces and some microscopic tools... better not say that too loud.

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Posted by drdull on Friday, July 11, 2008 8:23 PM
Not yet mentioned, but just as important I think, is that the Dragon Buchanan is the only available injection-molded 1/350 kit representing a Gleaves class destroyer.  This opens up many opportunities for modeling important ships.
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Posted by ps1scw on Friday, July 11, 2008 8:10 PM
PS: I received mine w/the cyber hobby PE upgrade, looks great, you should see the crew! Looks great for that scale.  Dragon could make a mint off 1/350 crew member sets!
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Posted by ps1scw on Friday, July 11, 2008 8:07 PM
 Mansteins revenge wrote:
 EdGrune wrote:

Was she credited with any "kills"?

From: DICTIONARY OF AMERICAN NAVAL FIGHTING SHIPS, Vol. I, pp. 168-69.  via NAVSOURCE 

Buchanan

(DD-484: dp. 1630; l. 348'3"; b. 36'1"; dr. 17'5"; s. 37.4 k.; cpl. 276; a. 4 5", 6 21" TT.; cl. Gleaves)

The second Buchanan (DD-484) was launched 22 November 1941 by Federal Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Co., Kearny, N. J.; sponsored by Miss Hildreth Meiere, great-granddaughter of Admiral Buchanan; and commissioned 21 March 1942, Lt. Cdr. R. E. Wilson in command.

Buchanan got underway for the Pacific 28 May 1942. She played an effective role in the landings at Guadalcanal and Tulagi (7-9 August) and on 9 August she was present during the Battle of Savo Island and rescued many survivors of Astoria (CA-34), Quincy (CA-39), Vincennes (CA-44), and HMAS Canberra, sunk during the battle. In September she escorted Wasp (CV-7) and other units to Noumea, New Caledonia. Shortly there after, as part of TF 64.2, Buchanan *** isted in the occupation of Funafuti Island in the Ellice Islands.

On the night of 11-12 October, as a unit of TG 64.2 Buchanan took part in the Battle of Cape Esperance. On 12 November the destroyer was damaged during the initial stages of the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal when she was accidentally hit by U. S. naval gunfire. She suffered the loss of five of her crew and had to withdraw from the action. After undergoing repairs, she was assigned to convoy escort duty until February 1943.

After leave in Sydney, Australia, Buchanan joined the screen of TF 15. On 30 April 1943, while screening in convoy, the ship ran aground off the southern coast of Guadalcanal and, after jettisoning heavy gear and ammunition, she was eased off th e reef by three tugs. She proceeded to Espiritu Santo New Hebrides, for repairs. Repairs completed, she participated in the New Georgia Group operations (30 June-13 July) and while under heavy attack she effectively bombarded the enemy shore batteries dur ing the invasion of Rendova. She participated in the bombardment of Munda (12 July) and the Battle of Kolombangara (13 July). Buchanan was damaged when she collided with Woodworth (DD-460) during the latter engagement and retired to Noumea f or repairs. During the ensuing months, Buchanan convoyed ships to Noumea, Espiritu Santo, and Guadalcanal. She participated in the Treasury-Bougainville operation (1-11 November), taking part in the Rabaul and Buka-Bonis strikes. Next, as a unit of TF 38, she bombarded Shortland Island and Bougainville (8 and 13 January 1944). On 22 January, while going to the rescue of the torpedoed oiler Cache (AO-67), Buchanan hunted down and sank the Japanese submarine RO-37 in 11°47' S., 1 64°17' E.

During February the destroyer participated in various phases of the Bismarck Archipelago operation (15 February-1 March). She covered the Green Island landings and took an active part in the bombardment of Kavieng, Rabaul, and New Ireland before steaming to the United States to undergo a yard overhaul at Mare Island.

Upon completion of overhaul and refresher training Buchanan returned to the Pacific and served with the transport screen during the assault and capture of the southern Palaus (6 September-14 October 1944) . She next participated in the strikes a gainst Luzon between 14 and 16 December. On 18 December she was damaged by a typhoon in the Philippine Sea. Upon completion of repairs she engaged in attacks on Luzon, Formosa, and the China coast (6-16 January 1945) in support of the Luzon operation. Dur ing the remainder of World War II she participated in the Iwo Jima invasion (15 February-5 March ), Okinawa operation and supporting 3d and 5th Fleet raids (16 March-30 June); as well as the 3d Fleet operations against Japan (10 July -15 August 1945).

On 29 August she entered Tokyo Bay escorting South Dakota (BB-57). On 1 September she carried Fleet Admirals Nimitz and Halsey from their respective flagships to Yokohama where they met with General MacArthur and then returned them to the fleet. The following day she carried General MacArthur to Missouri (BB-63) where he accepted the Japanese surrender and then returned him to Yokohama. She remained on occupation duty in the Far East until 8 October and then departed for San Francisco whe re she arrived 20 October. Buchanan steamed to Charleston, S. C. for pre-inactivation overhaul and went out of commission in reserve there 21 May 1946.

Buchanan was recommissioned 11 December 1948 at Charleston and underwent shakedown and refresher training with a nucleus Turkish crew aboard. On 29 March 1949 she got underway for Golcuk, Turkey, where she was turned over to the Turkish Navy 28 Apr il 1949.

Buchanan received the Presidential Unit Citation and 16 battle stars for her World War II service.

Wow, that's some record...she even survived Halsey's Typhoon debacle...

The Japanese were VERY good at nighttime engagements.  Even without the benefit of radar.

You spoke of the Typhoon, there was a saying among tincan sailors that they should have been eligible to wear 1/2 of the submariners dophin warfare pin because they spent half thier time underwater!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 11, 2008 5:58 PM
 EdGrune wrote:

Was she credited with any "kills"?

From: DICTIONARY OF AMERICAN NAVAL FIGHTING SHIPS, Vol. I, pp. 168-69.  via NAVSOURCE 

Buchanan

(DD-484: dp. 1630; l. 348'3"; b. 36'1"; dr. 17'5"; s. 37.4 k.; cpl. 276; a. 4 5", 6 21" TT.; cl. Gleaves)

The second Buchanan (DD-484) was launched 22 November 1941 by Federal Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Co., Kearny, N. J.; sponsored by Miss Hildreth Meiere, great-granddaughter of Admiral Buchanan; and commissioned 21 March 1942, Lt. Cdr. R. E. Wilson in command.

Buchanan got underway for the Pacific 28 May 1942. She played an effective role in the landings at Guadalcanal and Tulagi (7-9 August) and on 9 August she was present during the Battle of Savo Island and rescued many survivors of Astoria (CA-34), Quincy (CA-39), Vincennes (CA-44), and HMAS Canberra, sunk during the battle. In September she escorted Wasp (CV-7) and other units to Noumea, New Caledonia. Shortly there after, as part of TF 64.2, Buchanan *** isted in the occupation of Funafuti Island in the Ellice Islands.

On the night of 11-12 October, as a unit of TG 64.2 Buchanan took part in the Battle of Cape Esperance. On 12 November the destroyer was damaged during the initial stages of the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal when she was accidentally hit by U. S. naval gunfire. She suffered the loss of five of her crew and had to withdraw from the action. After undergoing repairs, she was assigned to convoy escort duty until February 1943.

After leave in Sydney, Australia, Buchanan joined the screen of TF 15. On 30 April 1943, while screening in convoy, the ship ran aground off the southern coast of Guadalcanal and, after jettisoning heavy gear and ammunition, she was eased off th e reef by three tugs. She proceeded to Espiritu Santo New Hebrides, for repairs. Repairs completed, she participated in the New Georgia Group operations (30 June-13 July) and while under heavy attack she effectively bombarded the enemy shore batteries dur ing the invasion of Rendova. She participated in the bombardment of Munda (12 July) and the Battle of Kolombangara (13 July). Buchanan was damaged when she collided with Woodworth (DD-460) during the latter engagement and retired to Noumea f or repairs. During the ensuing months, Buchanan convoyed ships to Noumea, Espiritu Santo, and Guadalcanal. She participated in the Treasury-Bougainville operation (1-11 November), taking part in the Rabaul and Buka-Bonis strikes. Next, as a unit of TF 38, she bombarded Shortland Island and Bougainville (8 and 13 January 1944). On 22 January, while going to the rescue of the torpedoed oiler Cache (AO-67), Buchanan hunted down and sank the Japanese submarine RO-37 in 11°47' S., 1 64°17' E.

During February the destroyer participated in various phases of the Bismarck Archipelago operation (15 February-1 March). She covered the Green Island landings and took an active part in the bombardment of Kavieng, Rabaul, and New Ireland before steaming to the United States to undergo a yard overhaul at Mare Island.

Upon completion of overhaul and refresher training Buchanan returned to the Pacific and served with the transport screen during the assault and capture of the southern Palaus (6 September-14 October 1944) . She next participated in the strikes a gainst Luzon between 14 and 16 December. On 18 December she was damaged by a typhoon in the Philippine Sea. Upon completion of repairs she engaged in attacks on Luzon, Formosa, and the China coast (6-16 January 1945) in support of the Luzon operation. Dur ing the remainder of World War II she participated in the Iwo Jima invasion (15 February-5 March ), Okinawa operation and supporting 3d and 5th Fleet raids (16 March-30 June); as well as the 3d Fleet operations against Japan (10 July -15 August 1945).

On 29 August she entered Tokyo Bay escorting South Dakota (BB-57). On 1 September she carried Fleet Admirals Nimitz and Halsey from their respective flagships to Yokohama where they met with General MacArthur and then returned them to the fleet. The following day she carried General MacArthur to Missouri (BB-63) where he accepted the Japanese surrender and then returned him to Yokohama. She remained on occupation duty in the Far East until 8 October and then departed for San Francisco whe re she arrived 20 October. Buchanan steamed to Charleston, S. C. for pre-inactivation overhaul and went out of commission in reserve there 21 May 1946.

Buchanan was recommissioned 11 December 1948 at Charleston and underwent shakedown and refresher training with a nucleus Turkish crew aboard. On 29 March 1949 she got underway for Golcuk, Turkey, where she was turned over to the Turkish Navy 28 Apr il 1949.

Buchanan received the Presidential Unit Citation and 16 battle stars for her World War II service.

Wow, that's some record...she even survived Halsey's Typhoon debacle...
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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, July 11, 2008 5:13 PM
 I have the kit and just ordered the cyber hobby upgrade. My father-in-law served aboard her during the war. He passed on Memorial Day 1990 but now that there is such a kit and such a nice one how can I resist. Please let me know if you get one going as I will be nutty with intrest.Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by EdGrune on Friday, July 11, 2008 5:09 PM

Was she credited with any "kills"?

From: DICTIONARY OF AMERICAN NAVAL FIGHTING SHIPS, Vol. I, pp. 168-69.  via NAVSOURCE 

Buchanan

(DD-484: dp. 1630; l. 348'3"; b. 36'1"; dr. 17'5"; s. 37.4 k.; cpl. 276; a. 4 5", 6 21" TT.; cl. Gleaves)

The second Buchanan (DD-484) was launched 22 November 1941 by Federal Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Co., Kearny, N. J.; sponsored by Miss Hildreth Meiere, great-granddaughter of Admiral Buchanan; and commissioned 21 March 1942, Lt. Cdr. R. E. Wilson in command.

Buchanan got underway for the Pacific 28 May 1942. She played an effective role in the landings at Guadalcanal and Tulagi (7-9 August) and on 9 August she was present during the Battle of Savo Island and rescued many survivors of Astoria (CA-34), Quincy (CA-39), Vincennes (CA-44), and HMAS Canberra, sunk during the battle. In September she escorted Wasp (CV-7) and other units to Noumea, New Caledonia. Shortly there after, as part of TF 64.2, Buchanan *** isted in the occupation of Funafuti Island in the Ellice Islands.

On the night of 11-12 October, as a unit of TG 64.2 Buchanan took part in the Battle of Cape Esperance. On 12 November the destroyer was damaged during the initial stages of the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal when she was accidentally hit by U. S. naval gunfire. She suffered the loss of five of her crew and had to withdraw from the action. After undergoing repairs, she was assigned to convoy escort duty until February 1943.

After leave in Sydney, Australia, Buchanan joined the screen of TF 15. On 30 April 1943, while screening in convoy, the ship ran aground off the southern coast of Guadalcanal and, after jettisoning heavy gear and ammunition, she was eased off th e reef by three tugs. She proceeded to Espiritu Santo New Hebrides, for repairs. Repairs completed, she participated in the New Georgia Group operations (30 June-13 July) and while under heavy attack she effectively bombarded the enemy shore batteries dur ing the invasion of Rendova. She participated in the bombardment of Munda (12 July) and the Battle of Kolombangara (13 July). Buchanan was damaged when she collided with Woodworth (DD-460) during the latter engagement and retired to Noumea f or repairs. During the ensuing months, Buchanan convoyed ships to Noumea, Espiritu Santo, and Guadalcanal. She participated in the Treasury-Bougainville operation (1-11 November), taking part in the Rabaul and Buka-Bonis strikes. Next, as a unit of TF 38, she bombarded Shortland Island and Bougainville (8 and 13 January 1944). On 22 January, while going to the rescue of the torpedoed oiler Cache (AO-67), Buchanan hunted down and sank the Japanese submarine RO-37 in 11°47' S., 1 64°17' E.

During February the destroyer participated in various phases of the Bismarck Archipelago operation (15 February-1 March). She covered the Green Island landings and took an active part in the bombardment of Kavieng, Rabaul, and New Ireland before steaming to the United States to undergo a yard overhaul at Mare Island.

Upon completion of overhaul and refresher training Buchanan returned to the Pacific and served with the transport screen during the assault and capture of the southern Palaus (6 September-14 October 1944) . She next participated in the strikes a gainst Luzon between 14 and 16 December. On 18 December she was damaged by a typhoon in the Philippine Sea. Upon completion of repairs she engaged in attacks on Luzon, Formosa, and the China coast (6-16 January 1945) in support of the Luzon operation. Dur ing the remainder of World War II she participated in the Iwo Jima invasion (15 February-5 March ), Okinawa operation and supporting 3d and 5th Fleet raids (16 March-30 June); as well as the 3d Fleet operations against Japan (10 July -15 August 1945).

On 29 August she entered Tokyo Bay escorting South Dakota (BB-57). On 1 September she carried Fleet Admirals Nimitz and Halsey from their respective flagships to Yokohama where they met with General MacArthur and then returned them to the fleet. The following day she carried General MacArthur to Missouri (BB-63) where he accepted the Japanese surrender and then returned him to Yokohama. She remained on occupation duty in the Far East until 8 October and then departed for San Francisco whe re she arrived 20 October. Buchanan steamed to Charleston, S. C. for pre-inactivation overhaul and went out of commission in reserve there 21 May 1946.

Buchanan was recommissioned 11 December 1948 at Charleston and underwent shakedown and refresher training with a nucleus Turkish crew aboard. On 29 March 1949 she got underway for Golcuk, Turkey, where she was turned over to the Turkish Navy 28 Apr il 1949.

Buchanan received the Presidential Unit Citation and 16 battle stars for her World War II service.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 11, 2008 4:59 PM
Cool...a lot of folks don't appreciate the hard-fought battles around the Solomons during '42-'43...I think mostly because it involved less glamourous ships than Carriers or Battleships...I have read of some hellacious night battles betwwen cruisers...and often the Americans got the bloodier nose for it...
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Posted by subfixer on Friday, July 11, 2008 4:27 PM

She sank RO-37, an IJN submarine.

  http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Base/1250/buchanan.html

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 11, 2008 4:01 PM
Was she credited with any "kills"?
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Posted by ModelWarships on Friday, July 11, 2008 3:26 PM
Well if you like US Naval history, specifically the battles in and around the Solomon Isles, this ship was in the mix in many major battles. She wore a colorful camo scheme in 42. The instructions include a 1/350 camo sheet that can be used to make your own paint mask. Hint photocopy it onto a full page printer label and cut it out.  Or if you hate masking, you can do a 1943 version in Ms-21 Navy Blue. The Buc faced off against some other Japanese ships now available in plastic so the diorama possibilities are there if you have a lot of room. Or you could do her anchored next to some beach front property on Guadalcanal complete with some palm trees. Aaron Ward DD-483 is nearly a carbon copy of her and I will be doing her in 42 for the November 13th 1942 Second Savo battle.

Timothy Dike

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Posted by warshipguy on Friday, July 11, 2008 2:31 PM

This kit is an outstanding kit in virtually every respect.  As with all kits, there are minor flaws, but even these a very minimized.  You will not regret buying the USS BUCHANAN!

Bill Morrison

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Posted by subfixer on Friday, July 11, 2008 1:50 PM
Hey there Manny, check out the thread in this section. It is quite an eye opener in some respects.

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