Dragon 1/350 Buchanan

To paint her in Measure 12 Modified, White Ensign is the source for Deck Blue 20-B, Navy Blue 5-N, Haze Gray 5-H and Ocean Gray 5-O correct?

EdGrune wrote:

NAVSOURCE is ther best reference site available for US Naval ships.

There is also DestroyerHistory.org as well, but in this case their page on the Emmons will not be of much help with details. There is plenty of history there though, so it's worth a link.

ps1scw wrote:

airtrans Crash wrote: im stuck on Okinawa so most things needed are ordered through mail. You should be playing with the girls not models.

airtrans Crash wrote:

im stuck on Okinawa so most things needed are ordered through mail.

You should be playing with the girls not models.

This may have been pointed out before, but here it is again.  NAVSOURCE is ther best reference site available for US Naval ships.  This is the link to the high speed minesweeper page which includes the Benson/Livermore conversions (right column)

http://www.navsource.org/archives/11/09idx.htm

There is only one shot of the Emmons, at a distance.  It is from her service as a DD - not a DMS.   But peruse the rest of the list.  There are a couple of good shots of the Quick & Thompson which show the gear. 

The major change will be to delete the #4 5-inch gun and replace it with a cable drum.  Add some davits to handle the sweep gear and some other structures on the fantail.   The conversion will touch little of the area forward of the #4 gun.  Build that out of the box.   For the conversion, styrene sheet & strip stock will be your best bet.   Perhaps some repurposed model railroad items (my mind's eye goes to a PRR radio antenna set in PE which looks like a spoked wheel - great for the cable drum!)

sfcmac wrote:

Tracy White wrote:  sfcmac wrote: I need to find the link to that camo mask that was for the earlier version. May be a useful short cut? Not for the '45 release; she was in Measure 22. The company in question is probably Gator's Masks. Thanks that is it they were out due to the storm as well.  I'm a sick fellow. I got both of them the 42 and 45 version.  I forgot I ordered the 45 version as Manny posted that link on the previous page and I couldn't resist. It is his fault totally! I can't be blamed for my own obcessions after all! Thanks!

Tracy White wrote:

Not for the '45 release; she was in Measure 22.

That should be Ms. 21

Tracy White wrote:

sfcmac wrote: I need to find the link to that camo mask that was for the earlier version. May be a useful short cut? Not for the '45 release; she was in Measure 22. The company in question is probably Gator's Masks.

Thanks that is it they were out due to the storm as well.  I'm a sick fellow. I got both of them the 42 and 45 version.  I forgot I ordered the 45 version as Manny posted that link on the previous page and I couldn't resist. It is his fault totally! I can't be blamed for my own obcessions after all! Thanks!

sfcmac wrote:

I need to find the link to that camo mask that was for the earlier version. May be a useful short cut?

Not for the '45 release; she was in Measure 22. The company in question is probably Gator's Masks.

 Got my second Buchanan Today. The Cyberhobby version hooked me with the last chance sale of the 1945 version. Got it from Dragon USA and they included the PE set . Was a pretty fair deal on the both as I recall.

I included some photo's of the package contents just to show this free extra gift that came with it.  I figure Manny had some input as it is a Can DO pocket Army Feldgendarmerie w/ dogs. So order a ship and get a 1/35 dog handler as a bonus. Has to be Manny if if only subliminally!

The quality of the figure and German shepard are vey good. Some one with diarama and painting skills might actually find these figures as a useful addition for parts poses extc. Too bad no one comes to mind.

I need to find the link to that camo mask that was for the earlier version. May be a useful short cut?

BTW Manny thanks for the Iron Bottom Sound scans they are very cool and great refs!

airtrans Crash wrote:

email sent today.. my Buchanan has been shipped!

Mansteins revenge wrote:

Cool...a lot of folks don't appreciate the hard-fought battles around the Solomons during '42-'43...I think mostly because it involved less glamourous ships than Carriers or Battleships...I have read of some hellacious night battles betwwen cruisers...and often the Americans got the bloodier nose for it...

I suggest you read up on the Battle For The Savo Straits. There was so many skirmishes involving destroyers that it's almost mindboggeling

gary

EdGrune wrote:

The 1942 version of the Buchanan is available from the ususal online store suspects.   I've seen it on the Squadron and Sprue Brothers sites.   Check the sites of the advertizers who support this site.    I bought mine from Dragon/Cyberhobby http://www.cyber-hobby.com/shop/ The 1945 version is a limited run kit.    There were a few left over inventory from the IPMS Nats supplied to Freetime Hobbies,  but they are now sold out.    You may still be able to buy some from the Cyberhobby online store. --EDIT 0855 - 23AUG08 -- Just got an email from Dragon/Cyberhobby.  They are sold out of the 1945 Buchanans also.   -- END EDIT -- Online ordering from most online shops is quite easy with a credit card or paypal.  Most sites have a shopping cart system which make it easy for you to spend your money.  Shipping to Okinawa may add some to the cost, if you are military it may be cheaper. Try Hobby Link-Japan (hlj.com) or Rainbow-10.   They may be able to get it to you more inexpensively from Japan than from a Stateside operation.

 For the equivelent of the Fletchers:

I'm going to guess that for the Germans the Z23 or Z46 class.

For the Japanese maybe the Asashio or Atkitsuki.

Don't quote me on this though.

David

The 1942 version of the Buchanan is available from the ususal online store suspects.   I've seen it on the Squadron and Sprue Brothers sites.   Check the sites of the advertizers who support this site.    I bought mine from Dragon/Cyberhobby

http://www.cyber-hobby.com/shop/

The 1945 version is a limited run kit.    There were a few left over inventory from the IPMS Nats supplied to Freetime Hobbies,  but they are now sold out.    You may still be able to buy some from the Cyberhobby online store.

--EDIT 0855 - 23AUG08 --

Just got an email from Dragon/Cyberhobby.  They are sold out of the 1945 Buchanans also.  

-- END EDIT --

Online ordering from most online shops is quite easy with a credit card or paypal.  Most sites have a shopping cart system which make it easy for you to spend your money.  Shipping to Okinawa may add some to the cost, if you are military it may be cheaper.

Try Hobby Link-Japan (hlj.com) or Rainbow-10.   They may be able to get it to you more inexpensively from Japan than from a Stateside operation.

where is the best place to get the Buchanan? she'll convert to the 1944 mine sweeping version of the Emmons, so I dont need the 45 version.

I have never bought a model online 

Tracy White wrote:

Patience...

Dragon has them at http://www.dragonusaonline.com/

It is a limited edition and will not be run again.

Just got an email from the Dragon/Cyberhobby online store.  

They have a 'limited number' of the special run 1945 Buchanans available.  They are a penny less than what I paid for mine, plus you have to pay for shipping.   The photoetched rails and preformed MK37 radar set for the Buchanan is also available at the special convention rate.   

Google Cyberhobby for the website.  

So do all kits come with the '42 and '45 options?

No.  Stock Number 1021 is the 1942 version.   Stock number 1030 is the 1945 version.   The boxes are different,.  What is planned with the intervening numbers ... the Bensons,  pre-war versions ... ?   

In addition to the figures mentioned previously, there is a difference in the included PE items, including them late-war 40mm deck and the extra 20mm on the bridge face.  If you buy a '45 you get most of a '42.  You buy a '42 and you don't get the '45 parts

Free Time Hobbies tried to buy the excess stock from Dragon after the convention but was told no.   They may appear on the Cyberhobby site -- or they may become a collectors item.

EdGrune wrote:

Picked up the '45 Buchanan at the Nats.   The bulk of the parts from the '42 version are in a special box ( the 6 crew men are not there).  It comes with a set of sprues which comprise the difference between the '42 qnd '45 versions.  In place of the crew are figures of MacArthur and Nimitz and Halsey .  The Buchanan delivered MacArthur to the Missouri for the surrender. Still enroute home.   Full debrief midweek when I get there