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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:42 PM
However "urban legend" it may sound the chicken cannon story is true, with a modification. It was The then General Dynamics that designed the "chicken Canon" for testing the F-16 Canopy for strength, after a couple of really nasty birdstrikes in Europe, including one in Norway where the pilot was struck by the bird (But managed to eject) after the bird penetrated. The cannon was lent to British Rail in the 1980's and they DID test the frozen chickens on their new intercity locomotive.

Wether the bird is strong enough is really a point of mass, not of structure, and the birds go through even helicopter windscreens at the modest speeds they travel in.

Hope that answer some questions!
There are images of an israli blackhawk somewhere, with a crane through the cockpit windscreen (Not nice) just search for that!Wink [;)]

The GenDyn story I have from one of the engineers there who worked with it.
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Posted by caine on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 12:01 AM
I remember seeing that 777 video, Nova episode I think. That chicken got chopped up like ti was going through a meat grinder. Anyone for chicken waffers?

If you want some fun, check out Google.com and look up images with "airplane bird strike". I found a 737 that must have hit a small flock of birds. One even knocked part of the instrument panel out of place! Viewer discretion is advised.
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Posted by Par429 on Friday, January 21, 2005 8:07 PM
Hey-
Here's a picture of an AV-8B Harrier that hit a Canada Goose. A bit bigger than a chicken perhaps, but it did penetrate the metal inlet lip and blew out the suction door behind it on the way out. It also holed a fuel feed tank, so he lost a lot of fuel. Some goose parts and metal bits went into the engine, but it continued to run and the pilot made a successful emergency landing.



Phil
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Posted by schoonerbumm on Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:25 AM
Another NASA culture legend.... your tax dollars at work

Aftere the collapse of the Soviet Union, NASA scientists finally got to meet their Soviet counterparts and compare notes. One of NASA's many technical accomplishments was a ball point pen that functioned in a zero g environment. When the subject of data collection in orbit came up, the Soviets were quizzed about how they approached the ball point pen problem. The incredulous Russians responded that they used a pencil.

Alan

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Posted by stinger on Thursday, December 16, 2004 9:59 PM
This subject was touched on lightly about a year or more ago here in the Forum. It was referred to as the Rooster Booster. Try Googling that and see what comes up.

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Posted by overkillphil on Thursday, December 16, 2004 10:40 AM
Back when the 777 came out PBS ran a special called 21st Century Jet and one of the segments in it was about the engines. There was footage of geese (can't recall if frozen or not) being chucked into Rolls Royce and GE engines. Neither engine survived in operable condition but the Rolls died a spectacular death (and ultimately lost the competition).
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Posted by uilleann on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 9:06 PM
Heard this on the Discovery Channel show 'Mythbusters' about a year back as well. I doubt VERY much that any chicken has that kind of penetrating power and on the Mythbusters show, every one they fired out of their own chicken gun disintegrated after impact with the first object it was fired into. I see no way it would every be possible to imbed a chicken - no matter HOW frozen - into anything metal.

I have however seen air force videos relating to the testing of jet fighter canopies and their resistance to bird strikes. They were testing a new flexible material that would flex when hit rather than shatter. Pretty cool stuff - unless you were the turkey they used to test! :)
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Posted by Delbert on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 8:28 PM
not a bad story.. might want to file this one under Urban Legend though as variants of it have been going about for years.. just do a Yahoo! search for "nasa and chicken and cannon" and you will get more info on them..

laters.. and it was good for a laugh Big Smile [:D]



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NASA and chickens
Posted by jtilley on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 6:57 AM
Please forgive a intrusion by a ship modeler who's straying a long way from home. Maybe everyone in this forum has heard the following sad story - but if not, everyone needs to know it.

It's fairly well known that, a few years ago, NASA, in its ongoing effort to figure out the potential effects of collisions with birds on spacecraft and aircraft, developed a cannon-like machine that, in a laboratory environment, fires dead chickens at airplane and space shuttle mockups. It seems that a British manufacturer of railroad locomotives was concerned about what would happen if one of its latest high-speed trains collided with a flying bird. So the company ordered a duplicate of the NASA chicken cannon.

The first chicken they fired at the windshield of the locomotive smashed the glass, went straight through the head of the dummy sitting on the operator's seat, continued through the headrest behind it, and imbedded itself in the steel bulkhead behind the seat. The engineers, needless to say, found this disturbing. They sent NASA an e-mail, describing the problem in detail and asking, "what on earth should we do now?"

NASA sent back an e-mail consisting of three words: "Thaw the chicken."

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