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Posted by MikeV on Saturday, May 1, 2010 5:14 PM

Bgrigg

 

 keilau:
Very interesting link. Apparently no relationship to the Badger SATA 2020 airbrush.

 

 

 

Keilau, that's SOTAR, not SATA!

Sata makes spray guns for the most part although they do have some airbrushes. They are German.

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Bgrigg on Saturday, May 1, 2010 5:21 PM

I'm familiar with SATA, but Keilau was referring to the Badger SATA 20/20 airbrush, which is Sotar, of course!

So long folks!

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Posted by keilau on Saturday, May 1, 2010 8:30 PM

MikeV

 keilau:

Amoils.com in lubricant,

What does this mean Keilau? Are you saying Amsoil is not as good as other oils? If you are you need to do some homework.

I misspelled their name. It should be amsoil.com. It is a small company that makes lubricating products.

Amsoils.com sells their products, including synthetic engine oil, through individuals as dealer, somewhat like the Amway does. Their oils are good products and they compare them to Mobil 1.

I drive a VW Passat with a Turbo 4-cyl engine that needs synthetic oil. As an engineer, I am naturally interested in what Amsoil claimed. From my "homework", the Amsoil synthetic oils are all pretty good, as good as, if not better than Mobil 1. The problem is the higher price just like Snap-on tools. And their marketing approach a worst problem than the high price.

Some of their engine oils are not API certified that caused some question whether it could affect their new car warranty. Some reported that Amsoil adds zinc based lubricant to the oil that prevent them from submitting the oil for approval. The worst problem is what people see at some of their dealers' web sites who made misleading claims or imply dangereous practices in using engine oils. You can check their dealer web sites to see what I mean.

Amsoil's own web site shows some lab tests to claim that the oil is better than Mobil 1, but never explains the significance of those numbers. I am not a chemist, but I know how Synthetic engineer oil was developed and how they work better for aerospace engines. If the Amsoil web site reads confusing to me, I am not sure the average person can get much information from it.

I apologize to other forum members for this off topic discussion with MIke V.

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Posted by bondoman on Saturday, May 1, 2010 10:17 PM

brickshooter

I think that this thread name should be changed to "what is the best airbrush to purchase in my price range (state what it is) and for the scale I work on??"

I just set up a new Badger Patriot. It's a step up from the Aztek I used for ten years. In one evening I realize I waited 9 years and 364 days too long. It's so much better that I know I'll be happy for awhile. I paid $ 82.00 including a hose and an adaptor to fit my compressor.

 

Oh man, I had no idea. I'm standing there in the shop just looking around for more stuff to paint. " Here doggie...!".

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Posted by Bgrigg on Saturday, May 1, 2010 10:26 PM

Glad to hear the Patriot is meeting or beating your expectations! As a diehard Badger fan, I know you'll be pleased for years to come! Yes

So long folks!

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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, May 2, 2010 8:07 AM

keilau

 

 MikeV:

 

 

 keilau:

Amoils.com in lubricant,

What does this mean Keilau? Are you saying Amsoil is not as good as other oils? If you are you need to do some homework.

 

 

 

I misspelled their name. It should be amsoil.com. It is a small company that makes lubricating products.

Amsoils.com sells their products, including synthetic engine oil, through individuals as dealer, somewhat like the Amway does. Their oils are good products and they compare them to Mobil 1.

I drive a VW Passat with a Turbo 4-cyl engine that needs synthetic oil. As an engineer, I am naturally interested in what Amsoil claimed. From my "homework", the Amsoil synthetic oils are all pretty good, as good as, if not better than Mobil 1. The problem is the higher price just like Snap-on tools. And their marketing approach a worst problem than the high price.

Some of their engine oils are not API certified that caused some question whether it could affect their new car warranty. Some reported that Amsoil adds zinc based lubricant to the oil that prevent them from submitting the oil for approval. The worst problem is what people see at some of their dealers' web sites who made misleading claims or imply dangereous practices in using engine oils. You can check their dealer web sites to see what I mean.

Amsoil's own web site shows some lab tests to claim that the oil is better than Mobil 1, but never explains the significance of those numbers. I am not a chemist, but I know how Synthetic engineer oil was developed and how they work better for aerospace engines. If the Amsoil web site reads confusing to me, I am not sure the average person can get much information from it.

I apologize to other forum members for this off topic discussion with MIke V.

Yes Amsoil is more expensive than regular oils but it is about the same price as Mobil 1 and yes it is better.

By the way regular oils are more expensive when you consider you have to change them every 3,000 miles. Wink

Try using Mobil 1 for 30,000 miles or 1 year without an oil change and I will do the same with Amsoil and we can send in an oil sample for chemical analysis. I use Amsoil in all of my vehicles and am completely convinced it is the best oil bar none. It allows for less wear on an engine of any oil manufactured and that is why it is rated the best, that plus it's long life.

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by keilau on Sunday, May 2, 2010 1:52 PM

MikeV

By the way regular oils are more expensive when you consider you have to change them every 3,000 miles. Wink

Try using Mobil 1 for 30,000 miles or 1 year without an oil change and I will do the same with Amsoil and we can send in an oil sample for chemical analysis. I use Amsoil in all of my vehicles and am completely convinced it is the best oil bar none. It allows for less wear on an engine of any oil manufactured and that is why it is rated the best, that plus it's long life.

No, I will prefer to continue to use Mobil 1 and change oil every 5000 miles. VW recommend 7500 mile intervel per oil change.

After 30,000 miles with no oil change, the Amsoil may still be good, but my car may not be.  It is exactly that kind of "30,000 mile or 1 year" oil change intervel that makes me stay away from Amsoil. It is even worst if the "30,000 mile or 1 year" oil change intervel is not an Amsoil recommendation, yet they encourage their dealers to make such claim and take no resesponsibility of it. Ask your Amsoild dealer who will take responsibility of this long oil change.

I will suggest that we stay with the modeling topic.

 

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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, May 2, 2010 3:18 PM

I don't know where you are getting your info Keilau but it is absolutely incorrect!

I sent you a "Conversation" on this subject so as to not hijack this thread any longer. Smile

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by mar526 on Wednesday, May 3, 2017 8:28 PM

I personally use the karmin makeup airbrush kit Balloons

 

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Posted by carsandplanes on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 12:44 PM

I hope I don't bother anyone by reviving this old thread but I landed here after a google search and did a little browsing on the forum but didn't see any newer threads after searching the site.

I'm looking to get my father in law an airbrush set for Christmas as he has been an rc and scale model builder for 30 plus years. This is pretty much the only tool he doesn't seem to have and likely not something he'd buy for himself. Anyhow just looking for some updated advice on a good high quality set for him that will last. I did find this best airbrush guide for models that seems recent and I'm leaning toward the Badger units since he'd appreciate they are american made although the Iwata seem top notch. Maybe pair it with a Badger compressor?

If it helps in recommending a particular model, he mostly does rc war planes and older antique cars. He is also a career paint and body man so if any of the models would lend to someone who has worked that trade would be great.

Appreciate any advice and I look forward to sticking around here and getting into the hobby myself! 

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Posted by MonsterZero on Monday, December 4, 2017 12:22 PM

Look for an airbrush that does a good job while having as few moving parts as possible. You can do this by viewing their technical diagrams online before you purchase. Having too many small parts begs for disaster when you take it apart for cleaning.

I'm submitting an image of an airbrush that in my opinion has too many small parts. If you open the thing up and it falls apart like a broken Swiss clock raining tiny parts all over your table then this is very much the wrong airbrush design. Look at parts 5, 6, 18 and 19. If those microscopic parts fall out during disassembly you may be unable to put the airbrush together again.

Don't buy an expensive airbrush. If you are skilled you can do superb work with any aibrush. If you suck, having a $300 or $400 airbrush won't help you.

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, December 4, 2017 12:36 PM

Yes it's a zombie thread but it's still a useful question.

I use the Badger 105 Patriot. It's very good for a basic dual action gravity feed and Badger's customer service is top notch. A lot of members use the Iwata brand and are very happy with them.

As far as a compressor you may want to go with a Harbor Freight for now until he sees what he wants, after you blow his socks off with an AB.

Just my 2 cents

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by modelmaker66 on Monday, December 4, 2017 3:07 PM

Zombie post!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, December 4, 2017 3:10 PM

modelmaker66

Zombie post!

 

Yes we know, already mentioned.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

http://www.spamodeler.com/forum/

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Posted by keavdog on Monday, December 4, 2017 3:29 PM

I do 99% of my airbrushing with a Paasche H - single action airbrush around $50.

For air source, nothing I have tried beats my CO2 tank.

I hope my future son-in-law is as thoughtful :)

Thanks,

John

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, December 4, 2017 3:47 PM

Retired In Kalifornia

 

 
modelmaker66

Zombie post!

 

 

 

Oh No Mr. Bill! Angry Orange's "Processed" Cousins Are After Me! 

 

Now that's funny.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

http://www.spamodeler.com/forum/

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Posted by damouav on Monday, December 4, 2017 4:11 PM

LOL

In Progress
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1/48 Hobby Boss TBF-1C Avenger (on hold)
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Posted by damouav on Monday, December 4, 2017 4:12 PM

Here...

In Progress
1/48 Tamiya P47-D Bubbletop
1/48 Hobby Boss TBF-1C Avenger (on hold)
Pending
1/48 Roden S.E.5a
1/48 Airfix Walrus
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Posted by damouav on Monday, December 4, 2017 4:12 PM

Kitty!

In Progress
1/48 Tamiya P47-D Bubbletop
1/48 Hobby Boss TBF-1C Avenger (on hold)
Pending
1/48 Roden S.E.5a
1/48 Airfix Walrus
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Posted by damouav on Monday, December 4, 2017 4:13 PM

So with this 4th post can I assume 4 kittens are dead!

In Progress
1/48 Tamiya P47-D Bubbletop
1/48 Hobby Boss TBF-1C Avenger (on hold)
Pending
1/48 Roden S.E.5a
1/48 Airfix Walrus
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Posted by modelmaker66 on Monday, December 4, 2017 11:30 PM

modelcrazy
 
Retired In Kalifornia

 

 
modelmaker66

Zombie post!

 

 

 

Oh No Mr. Bill! Angry Orange's "Processed" Cousins Are After Me! 

 

 

 

Now that's funny.

 

Not a big cat fan so I will keep that in mind in the future

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