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  • From: San Antonio, Texas
Model Master Metalizer Paints
Posted by Marcus McBean on Wednesday, July 22, 2015 10:06 AM
Do you really need to purchase the thinner and sealer for Model Master Metalizer paints? Would regular Testor thinner work and Future act as a sealer. Marcus
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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Wednesday, July 22, 2015 10:28 AM

Model Master Metalizer paints are strictly for airbrush use and yes, I do believe you do need to use their brand of Metalizer sealer. I never used them nor had experience with them. I'd rather use Alclad Metallic over Model Master Metalizer paints.

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  • From: State of Mississippi. State motto: Virtute et armis (By valor and arms)
Posted by mississippivol on Wednesday, July 22, 2015 2:46 PM

You need the thinner to clean up your tools. The sealer keeps the finish from coming off on your hands; the finish is very fragile. It will airbrush without thinning.

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  • From: San Antonio, Texas
Posted by Marcus McBean on Wednesday, July 22, 2015 4:54 PM

Thank you for the feedback.  Looks like I will be ordering the sealer.

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  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Wednesday, July 22, 2015 5:43 PM

If I use a brush to do small areas,I find the best brush cleaner is ISO Alcohol,go figure.

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Thursday, July 23, 2015 6:47 AM

Tojo72, Thank you for the reply.  

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, July 23, 2015 9:00 AM

I find that thinner costs, even for paint brand thinners, is a minor cost compared to price of kits.  No need to use it for cleaning, hardware store stuff is adequate for that.  I think it is false economy to scrimp on actual paint thinner. I have used generic stuff when LHS out of Testors thinner, but I do prefer the Testors stuff.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by razorbacks on Monday, January 3, 2022 11:29 PM

Good evening, I hane not had to order any new modelmaster laca metalizer in quite a while. well here we go, cant get it any more, my brand for many years, what is the best substute out there? Thank you for input. little of topic, but what is up with these Biden, Trump ads all over FSM home page

pat

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Tuesday, January 4, 2022 3:44 AM

razorbacks

Good evening, I hane not had to order any new modelmaster laca metalizer in quite a while. well here we go, cant get it any more, my brand for many years, what is the best substute out there? Thank you for input. little of topic, but what is up with these Biden, Trump ads all over FSM home page

 

Alclad would probably be the closest. There are others too, I'll let someone else comment on those. Nothing is quite like Testors MM was. Alclad will get you there but it's more fragile a finish.

The ads you see may have more to do with your browser and browsing history than FSM. I don't see them but then my computer has an ad blocker I installed, the name of which slips my mind off hand.

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Tuesday, January 4, 2022 6:23 AM

Alclad is a bit finicky to apply, generally needing a good smooth gloss basecoat.   Cant apply it too thick.   But once it is down and well hardened I've found Alclad to be solid, takes masking well, and am able to paint on top with acrylics or enamels.   MM. metals not so much

 

i recently purchased some AK Interactive aluminum  paints.   They claim to be an enamel.   They spray well with good coverage.   surface prep is needed, but not like Alclad. They take some handling abuse.   I like them

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Posted by cbaltrin on Tuesday, January 4, 2022 7:35 AM

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On the Bench: Too Much

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Tuesday, January 4, 2022 7:55 AM

I've been having really good results with Alclad and haven't had issues with it being fragile.  It does take a little bit of practice to get the optimum amount of coverage though.  As was already said, you don't want to put it on too thick...but you also don't want to put it on too thin.  I put mine on just to the point where no more black shows.  Having black showing through alters the color to the point where its not representative of what's in the bottle.  Any modulation or shading I need to do with it gets done with random mist coats of other Alclad colors on top of the base metal color.  One problem I have noticed with masking on Alclad is that certain types of masking tape (Tamiya vinyl masking tape being one of them) can leave a mark where the edges of the tape were.  I recently started using Tamiya's rice paper masking sheets, and those don't leave any marks behind...along with being seemingly infinitely repositionable.

This 1/32 F110-GE-100 engine was done with the Alclad base color/shading technique.

"You can have my illegal fireworks when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers...which are...over there somewhere."

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Posted by rocketman2000 on Tuesday, January 4, 2022 9:06 AM

Eaglecash, that is beautiful.  Was that from an aircraft kit, or is it a standalone kit?

I recently finished the big Allison Turboprop (1:10 scale)  Largeness of kit certainly makes using Alclad easier, but also used that Tamiya tape.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Tuesday, January 4, 2022 10:25 AM

Thanks Don!  Its from the 1/32 Tamiya F-16CJ kit.  Came with an engine dolly as well, but I ended up screwing that up so badly that the engine is currently hidden in the F-16.  The whole assembly slides out pretty easily though if I ever decide to get a replacement dolly.  Probably should do that, since Tamiya makes getting replacement parts so easy.

I used the Tamiya vinyl tape on that engine as well without issues, but I think that's just because of the irregular surface.  I did run into the marking issue recently with the stabilator on the F-4B I'm building at the moment, so that's a fairly large, flat, featureless surface.  The mark was very faint and barely noticeable, but definitely there.

"You can have my illegal fireworks when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers...which are...over there somewhere."

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