Badger or Omni????

QUOTE: Originally posted by GABO72 First question: do you buy the fine 100LG

I would recommend the medium for all around.
You could buy the fine later if you wanted to experiment with it but it will be more problematic getting paint to flow through it as reliably.

Mike

thank you mike , guillermo and i will buy the 100LG for finest detail in 1/144 jet fighters , and we are thinking to buy the medium needle latter, thank you for your advice



If i decide to buy the medium needle , i need to buy some other things, tips, bearing , or i can get a medium set just to do it my self ??

You will need to buy the medium needle as well as the medium head & tip and the medium spray regulator.

Mike

THANKS MIKE V , guillermo and i just ordered the airbrushes, with the fine needles, and will order te medium sets soon, we will keep you informed

Hey GABO72
I ordered my airbrush with the fine tip, I've found that it is excellent when using it to weather aircraft with subtle shading and stains but if you are trying to do a paint job it is not as good because the paints have to be extremly thin and therfore don't cover as well meaning that you would have to do multiple coats over one another which is pretty hard with complecated camo schemes.
I would recommend also purchasing the medium head set as this can use thicker paint and still get very fine lines for camo designs.

TOO LATE,


WE HAD ORDERED THE FINE TIP, but wil practice with it and save money to buy the medium set, the fines 100LG will be used to paint 1/144 models almost exclusively,

thanks for the advice

a question??

the proportion or rate thinner / paint for the 100 LG??????

QUOTE: Originally posted by GABO72 a question?? the proportion or rate thinner / paint for the 100 LG??????

That depends on the paint.
Try starting with about a 2:1 ratio of paint to thinner and sdjust from there.
If you are using acrylics you may have trouble getting it to flow reliably through the fine tip/needle and may need some retarder to slow the paint drying time..

Mike

I've found that with the fine tip the paint to thinner ratio has to be pretty high to get good flow I would suggest about 70% thinner to 30% paint [acrylic] if you want good flow , although I haven't tried using a retarder to slow the drying time yet.

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we expect to use enamel paints, we seldom use acrylics, and will do some tests about the rate and the air pressure that i likes, with some photos, we expecto to receive the badgers here in Guatemala Central america about next monday, we are praying

The badgers had just arrived, Guillermo made some test , and i am preparing my own tests, i will inform how it evolves with my own settings

Good luck Gabo!!!

Hey GABO72
Keep us posted on the testing , I hope you like it.
I think its a good airbrush because its got a nice solid feel to it what do you think?

Ok, the tests are not runing yet, buy the balck box is in my hands right now, i did chek how it can be adjusted, and how it fells in my hands,

for now two things,

one is i did receive as a gift from Gmoalfaro one beeswax to use it with the badger, i did not know how or where put it, can it help to the airbrush care or to the paint to not stuk

two
the box has a sticker with a warnig " this product contains material known in california as hazardous or may caus birth deffects " as ai can remember for now, i will check this sticker tonight, anyone know abot it???

QUOTE: Originally posted by GABO72 the box has a sticker with a warnig " this product contains material known in california as hazardous or may caus birth deffects " as ai can remember for now, i will check this sticker tonight, anyone know abot it???

As long as you're not in California, you're ok! And you won't get more birth defects after you've been born anyway.

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SO FAR ENOUGH FROM CALIFORNIA and if i will born again i want to be a hobby shop owner jiiiiihaaaa

All products that contain any amount of lead at all have to have that sticker here in this liberal state we know as California.

Mike

Beeswax? I don't know if you can use it on your airbrush, but give it a try cause it would be intersting to see if it worked to stop tip dry or help paint flow?
P.S Have you taken your airbrush on its maiden test yet , I want to know what you think!

Maiden test done, but is plenty of questions,

the 100LG does like humbrol enamels
the 100LG does very fine lines
the 100LG does like very low air pressures
the 100LG does have a large color cup
the 100LG fine niddle is FINE

at some point i did try with model master paint, german olivegrun but with the ratio that i am acustomed, this is very thinned paint, and it does not cover much, i did try over a hasegawa 1/72 armor box, but at the model itself i did see the light covering, but fine lines, the air pressure rates 5 to 8 psi,

At first time i did feel disturbed with my self, just imagine the transition from aztec to badger 350 to the 100LG, its just another trigger feel, but this moring i figure that i have to practice and to practice,

The covering for mediun range area , did just great, but remember its the maiden test, some other tests will be done these following days

beeswax is for the needle, i think its for the paing not to stuk on the needle, and i repeat this needle is just "FINE"

The beeswax is to seal the tip on some airbrushes.
After being disassembled many times the tip can leak air around the threads so beeswax is heated and applied to the area to seal it better.

Mike

ok, we don´t move our fingers yetttttttt


LAST NIGHT Gmoalfaro made some retouches in a F5B with SEA camo scheme, he is impressed with the precision fo the 100LG , he is using 8 to 10 psi in a paaschee compressor and using humbrol paints,

thats why we are called "MAPACHE" (RACOON) because we do our modeling work by the night

I will do more tests this weekend, using a plastic dish instead my old model of a mustang to do paintg tests

Another important thing to know is that we do 1/72 models and buy the 100LG to do veri fine paint works on 1/144 scale models

I very recently got a 100LG after having used an Aztek. I loved it straight off, didn't really encounter much of that 'paradigm shift' that some people imply going between an Aztec & a more trad style brush. I was surprised how much air it pumps out (I have the medium needle) but once loaded the paint is very controllable & the flow not at all excessive. I've been using Gunze & Tamiya acrylics so far.

I still find myself still using the Aztec for quick jobs such as touch ups or 'Future' Coats (can't get Future here) as it's easier to clean, even stripping the needle down each time.

THE SAME GOES TO US, we did use the AZTEK for future coats, but get the future is not hard as it is in Australia.

Sounds like your enjoying your new airbrush !!

JJJJJJJJJJJJJJust as it is

last night i did some painting but can not manage to control the triger "YET", in front of the triger it has a little screw i think it is to control the point where the paint begin to flow, i will keep practicing but yesterday i try to paint some green lines in a SDKFZ7 german half trak in 1/72, with a very fine lines in some cases and medium lines in others, nothing that can not be repaired haha

tomorow, we gather with the scale builders in a weekly reunion, and some other friends will do their tests

trhee trys and very happy

I use the screw at the front of the lever toallow fineline spraying , you twist the screw which pushes the lever back which in turn allows you to spray cosistant thin lines by only having to push down for the airflow . This feature is excellent and has allowed me to produce some fine work , you should try it !!

Hey GABO72
Just out of interest where did you order your airbrush from?

I received my Badger 360 the other day and just ordered a Badger 200-20 with the medium tip..What do you think of the Badger 200-20..It says its a single stage A/B that acts as good as a Badger 155...Will it do the fine lines that the 155 does?...Oh Yea, for us in California...No more CSC! I bought the last large bottle K-Mart here in the little town of Tehachapi, Ca. had and told them they need to reorder....
The Saleslady let me read the new bulletin that they will no longer carrie "Castrol Super Clean"and in three other States as well. I don't remember what other States..Our beloved CSC is Gone! If you can Find it, Buy it!...Wonder Why?...It's got nothing in it to hurt anything, you can use it to clean drains, toilet drains, bathtubs, remove paint off models..etc.etc.etc....California and three other States will no longer carrie CSC..Wonder if thats only K-Mart? Thats the only Store we have here...We have to drive to Lancaster, or Bakersfield to buy anything K-Mart don't have...We have two markets and they don't carrie it. Auto Zone has small bottles, Wonder if their dropping it too? Hummmm? "RC"

That is probably just a Walmart thing as CSC is biodegradable and I see no reason why they would take it off the market when they allow products like Tilex here which is much more toxic.
I bought mine at Kragen Auto Parts several months back and I would assume they still have it as it is a degreaser.

Mike

Yea Mike, probably so...It was K-Mart, wish we had a Wal-Mart...Mike, while I have your attention, will you please give me your thoughts on the Badger 200-20? As I said above I have the 360 which I love, but I'm not to good with the light finger touch yet on double action to do fine lines and keep my finger holding the same line when I lift my finger off and then try to fine the same line again, I'm waisting alot of paint trying to get back to the same tight line...I ordered the 200-20 last night after reading about how its mainly a 155 as is the 360 is only differance being, its a single action ...Have you used this one yet? and if you have please tell me what you think and feel about it..Seems like your the "God Father" to us all here when it come to this hobby....I mean this in a good way...I've read your comments in other A/B sites as well as ours here...You know what your talking about and give good advicel..Its hard to belive that your not one of Badgers key staff...Ken is missing out by not employing you... Thanks in advance
RC"