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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, March 13, 2005 3:50 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by peglegrc
Mike, while I have your attention, will you please give me your thoughts on the Badger 200-20?


I do not have one and I have not used one but from what Ken told me it is a real nice single-action airbrush with a micrometer adjustment on the needle similar to the Sotar's design.

QUOTE: Seems like your the "God Father" to us all here when it come to this hobby....I mean this in a good way...I've read your comments in other A/B sites as well as ours here...You know what your talking about and give good advice


Maybe I will have to make you an offer you can't refuse huh? Laugh [(-D]

QUOTE: Its hard to belive that your not one of Badgers key staff...Ken is missing out by not employing you.


Actually it is better for Badger that I am not employed by them.
If I were being paid by them then people would consider my advice as disingenuous as they would feel I am only saying what Badger paid me to say.
Since I pushed Badger products before I even knew Ken that makes me more valuable to a company as I am giving my honest opinion and not one that I am being paid to give. Wink [;)]
I do appreciate your kind words though. Thank You.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 13, 2005 9:45 PM
Hey mikeV
I totally agree with your comment on the badger products, I also suggest badgers airbrushes when aksed as I have had such excellent results using them and they are such good quality and value for money!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 14, 2005 9:35 AM
ORDER!!


we ordered our airbrushes at Dixieart

http://www.dixieart.com/Airbrushes.html
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:16 AM



THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE BADGER
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 18, 2005 1:40 PM
It's got such a nice shape!
Just the other day i was doing some spraying and I just want to make the comment that it makes the best sprayed line I've ever seen!!!!!!!!

Hows the spraying ? mines laying down some superb coats that anyone would be proud of!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:04 PM
I just did not train enough and i am not giving very fine lines, just as fine as with the aztek, but the practice will be fine lines to a near future, the spray or regular painting, just put some more air and pull back, to paint black the underside of a 1/24 duster 71 car, just great,

how do you clean the 100LG??
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 7:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by GABO72
how do you clean the 100LG??


I wrote and posted this once or twice before and thought it may be helpful to you.

Cleaning a gravity-feed airbrush

I like to spray out the airbrush at higher pressures and use 50 psi myself, but if your compressor only puts out 20-30 psi then just use as much pressure as you can.

Dump the excess paint out and wipe the cup with a paper towel or rag.
Fill the cup about ½-¾ of the way with cleaner and then take an old paintbrush and wipe around inside the cup and down in the bottom of the cup around the needle with it to break loose the paint particles. Just dab it into the needle area in the bottom of the cup and it cleans very well.
I like a flat paintbrush about 3/8” wide, but you can use what you want. Just make sure the paintbrush is not one of those real cheap ones that the hairs fall out of, as you don’t want the hair getting into the airbrush and possibly causing problems down the road.

After that, spray the cleaner out of the airbrush.
You can now look into the cup to see how well you cleaned it.
If you see paint particles around the needle and bottom of the cup still, then add a few drops of cleaner to the cup and dab the paintbrush into that area to break it loose, and fill the cup up about ½ way again with cleaner, wipe around in the cup with the paintbrush again and spray that out.
Wipe the inside of the cup with a soft rag or paper towel to clean any paint on the sides of the cup that may still be there. An old cotton T-shirt works good for this.
If you still see any residual paint particles, then once again dab the paintbrush around inside the cup with a few drops of cleaner in the bottom of the cup.

Fill the cup halfway with cleaner once more and hold a rag over the end of the airbrush to stop air from coming out of the tip. Push down on the trigger and pull back slowly and you will bubbles in the color cup as you are back flushing the airbrush. If you use high pressures to clean like I do then be careful doing this because if you have lacquer or other toxic cleaners in the cup and you pull the trigger back too far, it can shoot the cleaner up out of the cup and possibly into your eyes. That is why I say to pull the trigger back slowly until you get a pretty good amount of bubbles coming back into the cup. Do this for maybe 5 seconds or so and then look to see if any paint particles have appeared in the cup. Sometimes you will see paint particles, and sometimes you don’t, but I mention this just to let you see that back flushing can clean areas that just spraying out the airbrush can sometimes miss.
If there were very little paint particles in the cup from back flushing, then spray that cleaner out, fill the cup about ¼ way once more with cleaner and spray that out.

Now fill the cup ¾ of the way with filtered or distilled water and spray that all out.
You can fill it about ½ way once more if you like and spray that out also.
Some people like to then just spray air through the airbrush for several seconds to dry out the insides, but that is up to you. Sometimes I do it and sometimes I don’t.
Now wipe the inside of the cup out with a rag, wipe any paint off the outside of the airbrush and you are done.



About every 3 or 4 times of using the airbrush I will take the needle out after cleaning the airbrush and wipe it off with a rag with some thinner on it to get any paint that may have not gotten cleaned quite well enough in previous cleanings. I then apply Badger Needle Juice or Medea Super Lube to the needle to help eliminate tip dry and keep paint from adhering to the needle. I also like a drop on the trigger to make it smoother as well as putting a drop on my finger and rubbing it around inside the color cup to make paint removal easier when cleaning.
These two products do not affect paint at all and are safe with enamels, lacquers, acrylics, and urethanes.

Every airbrush expert I know does not recommend disassembly to clean it each time and I agree.
Disassembling the airbrush each time is not necessary and I don’t personally recommend it because the potential of damaging the needle, tip, needle bearing, and other parts increases each time you take it apart. Some people feel it is better to take it apart each time and give it a thorough cleaning, and you have to make that decision yourself.

I hope this is helpful

Mike





Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:38 AM
Cheers Mike
Thats some excellent advice and info for everyone including me and I've been airbrushing for years!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 25, 2005 3:54 AM
Have you got that patented yet Mike ;)
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 25, 2005 2:50 PM
Hey mike
Do you have a 100LG ?
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Posted by MikeV on Friday, March 25, 2005 4:48 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by stuka_69

Hey mike
Do you have a 100LG ?


Yes I do. Big Smile [:D]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by MikeV on Friday, March 25, 2005 4:48 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by woodbeck3

Have you got that patented yet Mike ;)


I have the patent lawyers working on it as we speak. Wink [;)]Tongue [:P]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 1:39 PM
Today i did follow your tips to clean, really works and i did use a testors plastic paintbrush to help a little , i did no use the 100LG with acrilyx yet but i will keep you informed
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:25 PM
Vice versa for me , all I've used in mine is acrylics as I've alwayas found them easier to work with and clean up!
By the way hows the models coming on with the fine spray pattern?

Hey MikeV do you do much modeling?
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Posted by MikeV on Saturday, April 2, 2005 4:34 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by stuka_69
Hey MikeV do you do much modeling?


I haven't been for the last few months.
I just can't get into it right now.
You know how that goes. Wink [;)]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 4, 2005 9:37 AM
i did use tamiya flat base in future for an A7 1/72, and the acrilyc work jus fine, ease to clean and for the first time i striped,( i did 5 paint sessions ) carefully put it back to work, here are the pictures the A7 is flated ( it is mine) and the F5B was painted with the 100 LG this is a camo patern





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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 12:18 AM
Wow those are some excellent models!, Keep up the great work, Maybe I'll post some pictures of some of my recent paint jobs with my 100LG?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 4:40 PM
HURRY UP PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 9, 2005 2:19 PM
Patience GABO72
I'll need to finish it first!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:19 PM
patience is the mother of all model builders haha, yesterday i did use acrylic white from tamiya, then i use some flat base , i clean the 100 with alcohol, driyed it witn tissue and then cleaned again with thinner, the airbrush seems to work fine with acrylic paints to, we are using the fine version of the 100 lg for fine work and medium camo works, and for us it just great ok, will try to put some pics ok
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 15, 2005 1:46 AM
DISASTER STRIKES!!!!!!
A bent tip has occoured whilst I was back flushing my 100LG , I think I'll be able to bend it back if I'm carefull !?
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Posted by MikeV on Friday, April 15, 2005 10:34 AM
How did you do that?

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 15, 2005 11:03 AM
HOLLY SHI*, try to explain how it was , and do you said bend tip , or bend needle??
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 15, 2005 7:10 PM
It was the tip that got bent when I was covering the end with a piece of tissue , but its all good now I bent it back and its working like normal again.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 17, 2005 11:21 PM
howd you bend it back????

Shoulda went with an Omni 4000G... forget those little kid 100's Wink [;)], woo hoo I am stiring a ruckus
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 18, 2005 4:59 PM
I happened to find an article on airbrush maintenance in an old FSM and it had a page on things that go wrong which described fixing a bent tip. AS FOR YOUR OTHER COMMENT!!!! ... I'll imagine that it was'nt said as there would be severe consequences !!!Mischief [:-,]Thumbs Down [tdn]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 7:10 PM
heh heh heh (evil chuckle)Evil [}:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:45 PM
Hey Gabo
Nearly ready to post those pics you asked for , just a few more bits of weathering and she'll be done and ready. That's if you still waiting?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:55 AM
Something happenssss

yesterday Guillermo and I buy the medium and the large tips and needles, he is using the medium in his 100LG and yesterday i tryed the large in my 100LG, at the first time, i change the tip and needle and put some paint cover the cup, and beguin the magic in a Duster 71 1/24 AMT car, the fisrt coat was great, and then the paint has consumed, i put some more but this time with no cup closed, then i saw some production of air bubbles bue the paint flow was not disturbed, why this bubbles appear , it is a problem of adjustment or fitting, or it is normal , or what happens??
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 13, 2005 2:50 PM
I wouldn't know, I also get bubbles building up when I spray?!
I did find if you lube up the needle and head it cuts the bubbling right down until it nearly doesn't exist!
You should give it a try and see what happens?!
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