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Tank vs compressor...preferences?

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Posted by tho9900 on Friday, November 11, 2005 7:04 PM
John - cool!  thanks for the feedback!  I can see one of these might well be in my future... I'll have to go feel out the welcding place down the street and see what they will charge me here... I might also contact my cousin who owns an airconditioning business and see if he can get it cheaper for me...
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Posted by Flatlander on Saturday, November 12, 2005 9:53 AM

Just a disclaimer (I was chemman on the old board).  My CO2 use is really based on the complete use of only ONE full tank, which lasted two years.  Since I build about six to ten models per year, I estimate I got about 12 - 20 models out of the tank.  I have used CO2 for years, but my job required me to move regularly, and moving companies won't let you ship compressed gasses.  At least three times I have vented a whole bunch of CO2 right before I moved. 

I don't use much CO2 when I paint - I have everything organized, taped down, ready for paint when I start.  Just psssst, psssst, pssst, and I'm finished.  If you do a lot of freehand work or paint complex camo, you might not get as many per tank.

Nonetheless, I love my CO2 tank and even if I only got ten models out of a tank, the ease, silence, and cleanliness would be worth $1.50 per model.  I spend that on only one beer, and I needed a lot more beers when I had to face the compressor.  It pays for itself!

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Posted by knight667 on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 4:07 PM
 Flatlander wrote:

Just a disclaimer (I was chemman on the old board).  My CO2 use is really based on the complete use of only ONE full tank, which lasted two years.  Since I build about six to ten models per year, I estimate I got about 12 - 20 models out of the tank.  I have used CO2 for years, but my job required me to move regularly, and moving companies won't let you ship compressed gasses.  At least three times I have vented a whole bunch of CO2 right before I moved. 

I don't use much CO2 when I paint - I have everything organized, taped down, ready for paint when I start.  Just psssst, psssst, pssst, and I'm finished.  If you do a lot of freehand work or paint complex camo, you might not get as many per tank.

Nonetheless, I love my CO2 tank and even if I only got ten models out of a tank, the ease, silence, and cleanliness would be worth $1.50 per model.  I spend that on only one beer, and I needed a lot more beers when I had to face the compressor.  It pays for itself!



I'll second the part about beers vs compressor. :)  Love the tank so far, results are good and silence is golden. :)
John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest
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Posted by gedenke on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:23 PM
The CO2 tank sounds good. How big of a tank would be sufficient? I'm looking at anywhere from a 3-10lb tank.
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Posted by knight667 on Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:54 AM
Mine and Flatlanders (I think) are 20lb tanks.
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Posted by gedenke on Saturday, November 19, 2005 10:52 PM
This might come off as dumb question, but do you think a large size paintball CO2 tank (I think they're about 20oz) would work for a model or two? I do very little spaying compared to some members who are building 10-12 a year or more. I personally have never done any paintballing so I don't even know if the valve would work. Just a shot in the dark...
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Posted by Bgrigg on Saturday, November 19, 2005 11:25 PM
I think you would have a hard time even getting one model completed. That's a pretty small tank.

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Posted by knight667 on Sunday, November 20, 2005 11:57 PM
 Bgrigg wrote:
I think you would have a hard time even getting one model completed. That's a pretty small tank.


I'll second that.  Having played paintball, those little tanks don't hold a lot of air.  Better off with a larger one.
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Posted by gedenke on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 2:55 AM
I figured as much, I'm going to try a 3lb. that my buddy is going to let me borrow. If I like it, then I'll go and invest in my own set up with a bigger tank.
-Geoff There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. — Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'.
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Posted by jcfay on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:10 AM

Hello all - I've been monitoring this thread for a while and now I must chime in.  I am a newbie/returning to modeling and want to start airbrushing; I'm trying to decide as well what route to go.  The tanks sound great, economical, super-quiet, and portable.  But I'm a little leery of sitting next to a potential bomb (unless it's properly secured, of course) and so I've been leaning towards the compressor route (maybe I'll reconsider...).  Been doing a bit of reading and I was wondering just how "quiet" the badger cyclone or iwatas (sprint/super/magnifico-jet or whatever its called) are.  I'm familiar with the old pneumatic big boy compressors that will shread your ear drums, and while I'm sure these aren't like that, I want to make sure that my girlfriend won't abandon her currently supporting position regarding my new obsession.  Any people in favor/against auto-shutoff too?  There is no reservoir on these compressors as well, so as long as you're painting they're running, right?  Lastly, how easy is it to refill the CO2 tanks?  I'm in a fairly large city (Pittsburgh), are welding supply places common, easy to work with for refills?  Thanks all and muchos graciasConfused [%-)]

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Posted by knight667 on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 10:13 AM
 jcfay wrote:

Hello all - I've been monitoring this thread for a while and now I must chime in.  I am a newbie/returning to modeling and want to start airbrushing; I'm trying to decide as well what route to go.  The tanks sound great, economical, super-quiet, and portable.  But I'm a little leery of sitting next to a potential bomb (unless it's properly secured, of course) and so I've been leaning towards the compressor route (maybe I'll reconsider...).  Been doing a bit of reading and I was wondering just how "quiet" the badger cyclone or iwatas (sprint/super/magnifico-jet or whatever its called) are.  I'm familiar with the old pneumatic big boy compressors that will shread your ear drums, and while I'm sure these aren't like that, I want to make sure that my girlfriend won't abandon her currently supporting position regarding my new obsession.  Any people in favor/against auto-shutoff too?  There is no reservoir on these compressors as well, so as long as you're painting they're running, right?  Lastly, how easy is it to refill the CO2 tanks?  I'm in a fairly large city (Pittsburgh), are welding supply places common, easy to work with for refills?  Thanks all and muchos graciasConfused [%-)]



I wouldn't consider a CO2 tank a "bomb" per se....unless you plan on having it in a high-traffic area where it could be knocked over. :)

As for ease of refilling...the place I got mine is very friendly and it should only be a matter of taking it and saying "Fill 'er up!" and I'll be on my way.  Not sure how it'd be in your area, though.
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Posted by Ratbert_CP on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 2:31 PM
You might also find success (if not economy) at a dive shop.  My guess is that it would actually cost more to fill a tank, but you may find a certain convenience over hunting down your local welding supply/compressed gas dealer.
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