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How do you deal with TAMIYA decals?

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Posted by Butz on Sunday, August 15, 2004 8:49 PM
Hey Steve,
I totally forgot about the "Stink Factor".....heheheheTongue [:P]Wink [;)]. I love the smell of burning Tamiya decals in the morning.........Tongue [:P]
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Posted by bstrump on Sunday, August 15, 2004 2:45 PM
Hi feli250. It's afrustrating problem, I know. First of all, most of the available decal solvents like supersol,aerosol,solvaset are much toostrong for tamiya decals. As you are finding, they will eat 'em up. That's why I toss them. If you are stuck with them, they are soft enough that they will conform on their own, usually. Try using setting solution alone under the decal and then blot it down with a damp cloth after a few minutes. This has worked for me in the past.
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Saturday, August 14, 2004 10:23 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Butz

Remember folks, no Tamiya Decals were actually harmed in the making of this post...

Mike... that's not exactly true... Wink [;)] Man those things stink when they burn...

They stink when you try to put 'em on a model, too...


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Posted by Butz on Saturday, August 14, 2004 4:48 PM
Remember folks, no Tamiya Decals were actually harmed in the making of this post....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Wink [;)]
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Thursday, August 12, 2004 5:54 PM
Actually, to be serious, (who? me? serious?) sometimes it's a matter of potluck as to what the decals in Tamiya kits will be like. I'm speaking mostly of their aircraft kits but I've noticed similar cases among the auto and armor kits which have passed through my hands.

As to what you can do to get Tamiya's decals to perform properly, I cannot tell you. I've never used any of 'em because I'm a firm believer that most kit decals, in general, are good for kindling for the campfire and nothing else. That's just me, though.

Those who have used kit decals, either out of necessity or preference, are the ones to provide the advice as to how they perform, and there's been a good bit of sound advice given in this thread already.

So even though I can't offer advice as to how to handle Tamiya's decals I can tell you that of all the Tamiya kits I've owned (speaking only of recent releases over the last ten to fifteeen years, that is) there have been three distinctly different 'types' of decals.

One type was what I refer to as the 'standard' type. Feli250, if the decals you were having problems with were the same ones as I used for my... uh... experiment (yeah, that's what it was...) then most likely they are the 'standard' type. They look godawful thick on the sheet and have a funky satin sheen to 'em but are printed rather nicely and look too nice to cut apart.

Another type I've noticed are what I call 'garage' decals. They also look kinda thick, but not as thick as the 'standards', are on a funky paper and, although you can see the decal film, it looks like the decals and paper are as one. They're not printed quite as nicely as the 'standards', either.

The third type are printed by good 'ole Scale-Master. They're very thin, and are generally well printed, although they can be of wildly varying quality.

Anyhoo, my point is that Tamiya, like most any other model manufacturer, uses a number of different companies to provide decals for their kits. Because of this some techniques and decal setting solutions which work for one type of decal may not work the same way for other types.


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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, August 12, 2004 4:47 PM
I've never built a Tamiya aircraft kit so can't comment on those decals, however the armor decals have always worked out ok for me. I use enamel paints and lacquers, spray a gloss coat, apply decals, apply glosscoat over the decals with a brush to snug them down and prevent silvering, then apply a dull coat and voila!
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Posted by dubix88 on Thursday, August 12, 2004 4:30 PM
HEY,
It seems like the only problems are with planes. Not sure though.

Randy
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 12, 2004 1:06 PM
Hi,

Don't know if Tamiya decals are different in aircrat, armour, etc., than in their motorcycles and autos as I have never used them. I would think not. I have never had a problem wih their auto decals.
What I do is,-

1- Give the surface a couple of good coats of Klear and leave it a day to fully cure.

2- I use a few drops of Tamiya acrylic thinners in warm water (10-1 ish mix). Let them soak until they start lifting from the paper. Then place them and brush out any air bubbles. Blot them to remoce excess water. Leave them to dry.

3- If I get any bubbles, lifting, etc., I just brush them over with the mix.

4- Some more Klear, which again I let fully cure. Then depending where they are top coat with matt, gloss or laquer.

This works for me.

Paul.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 12, 2004 8:59 AM
Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]
blackwolf you really make me laugh today!!!
Those are the exact decals that I’m having troubles right now!!!!!!…excellent idea…..
I have found a nice decal sheet from Techmond decals in Squadron, I´ll ordering them soonThumbs Up [tup]

later
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Posted by dubix88 on Thursday, August 12, 2004 5:24 AM
HEY,
What if you cant get aftermarket stuff? I am building a Tamiya US M1A1 Abrams and im stuck using the decals that come with it so what can i do? Ive never used tamiya decals so im kinda new to this.

Randy
THATS MY VOTE "If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there is a man on base." -Dave Barry In the words of the great Larry the Cable Guy, "GIT-R-DONE!!!"
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 12, 2004 2:10 AM
Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D] That's a great answer Blackwolf!

Seriously though, 86 the decals, try using dry-transfers instead.
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:37 PM


'Nuff said...


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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 8:58 PM
Man, I am so interested in the answer to this one. I have had the same problems with my Tamiya decals. I have even had them wrinkle when putting on the top coat of future. I am at just as much a loss as you. I thought that it was just me. I have been told that aftermarket decals are the way to go, so I picked up a few packages recently to try them out, but haven't had a chance. I will be watching this thread like a hawk.
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How do you deal with TAMIYA decals?
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 3:24 PM
Hi folks

I´m having a real decaling nightmare regarding TAMIYA decals on my Spitfire, the problems are:

Some of them don´t react to supersol.
Others deform after the coat of supersol.
Permanent wrinkles imposible to remove after 7 coats of supersol.
Fogging problems.

I have the ideal glossy surface for decals, the test decal I used worked perfectly with the microset and supersol system and hot water…..but when I started to apply decals on the aircraft the problems began.Banged Head [banghead]

So my question is how do you deal with this Censored [censored]Censored [censored] decals????

Thanks in advance.
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