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  • Member since
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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, January 17, 2015 11:41 AM

You can try to request parts from Revell.

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  • From: England
Posted by P mitch on Wednesday, January 14, 2015 9:30 AM

Knight

When you get round to starting the build have a look at amp.rokket.biz/lib_uboats.shtml

I found it looking for some info on the kit I have and there is loads of nice info and they do a few AM items which may help.

Phil

"If anybody ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me: it's all balls." R J Mitchell


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    February 2003
  • From: Green Bay, WI USA
Posted by echolmberg on Wednesday, January 14, 2015 9:12 AM

Devil Dawg

I like your wife's sense of humor!

Ditto  Ditto  Ditto  

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  • From: Tucson, AZ
Posted by Archangel Shooter on Tuesday, January 13, 2015 10:38 PM

Some years back...hell way way back, I got the Tamiya 1/350 Enterprise for $29.95 The salesgirl rang it up and I got it with no fuss. And I too would never think about switching price tags on any sort of merchandise. Now as for the Revell U-boats I got 3 on hand and trying to get rid of one. I'm at a standstill on one boat, after I finish a couple of group builds I really need to finish her too. The second boat will be a much bigger project having bought all the interior sets for it along various crew members sets. But the U-boat does look good on the shelf.

Scott

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 On the bench: So many hanger queens.

 

 

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  • From: Lancaster, South Carolina
Posted by Devil Dawg on Tuesday, January 13, 2015 10:04 PM

I like your wife's sense of humor!

Devil Dawg

On The Bench: Tamiya 1/32nd Mitsubishi A6M5 Model 52 Zeke For Japanese Group Build

Build one at a time? Hah! That'll be the day!!

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Posted by KnightTemplar5150 on Monday, January 12, 2015 4:24 PM

Now that this thread has resurfaced, it may be time for a brief update. I brought the kit down off the shelf last week to perform a proper inventory of parts and things are much worse than I had previously assumed. The AA gun is missing entirely, there are parts missing for the 88mm deck gun, one of the dive planes is MIA and all of the railings are beyond repair.

I made the mistake of complaining about the missing parts within earshot of my wife. "Well, you wanted a monster, Herr Doktor," she replied. "There it is - now go breathe life into it!" She walked away with her best 'evil laugh'. Despite her warped humor, she raised a valid point - I wanted a big project and it's entirely up to me to come up with solutions.

I have ordered some brass tubing and wire to replace the broken railings; the missing weapons can be replaced with a CMK set which also includes new periscopes and bits for the conning tower; and the missing dive plane is a fairly simple shape which I will have to scratchbuild. I am also lending a bit of consideration to the Archer rivet set (I don't feel any need to count those, but it will definitely help in the long run) and a set of propellers to replace the goofy looking bits in the kit.

I have started research into the Type VII-C, but judging by the list of modifications I have drawn up, I probably won't be getting into the actual build until sometime in March. At that point, I should have time to at least start things during the spring break at the college. Of course, I will try to post photos once I have done something other than inventory and daydreaming.

Again, thank you all for your support!

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  • From: Yorkville, IL
Posted by wolfhammer1 on Sunday, January 11, 2015 4:26 PM

Sir, you are a gentleman and an inspiration to us all.  I just found this thread and read thru it today and I am very impressed with the caring and understanding shown.  We need more people like you in the world, and you provide a wonderful example for us all.  Well Done!

John

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  • From: Lancaster, South Carolina
Posted by Devil Dawg on Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:19 PM

Way to go, Knight. Way to Go!!!

Devil Dawg

On The Bench: Tamiya 1/32nd Mitsubishi A6M5 Model 52 Zeke For Japanese Group Build

Build one at a time? Hah! That'll be the day!!

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  • From: Green Bay, WI USA
Posted by echolmberg on Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:00 PM

EXTREMELY well done, Timmy!  (Just kidding about the "Timmy" part.)

Your actions have put me to shame because I see that you are a better man than I would have been about it.  It took a bit of bravery to go back into the store.  It's something I probably would not have done not only because of my nervousness at facing the store owner again, but also because I would have been fearful of how I might have desired to lash out and become something that I'm not.  Does that make any sense?  I hope so.

You did a wonderful thing not only for your soul but for the lady as well.  Like G-J stated, this is probably the thread of the year right here.

Best wishes (as I clear my eyes for a moment),

Eric

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Posted by JayF on Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:13 PM

Great story and also great way to have handled this delicate situation.

Like my wife tells me from time to time :

no one is voluntarily saying or making evil things for no apparent reason, there is always an explanation

Now you see why the lady was reacting like that. She wasn't crazy or anything, it was an accumulation of many bad news. And like any normal human being, she reached her break-out point with that (now explainable) outburst.

And like every one else, I would also like to see this U-boat once completed !

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  • From: Houston, Texas
Posted by panzerpilot on Monday, November 10, 2014 9:35 PM

Great ending. You're a good man. It would be quick to draw conclusions and react emotionally, considering the circumstances. Something only sincere reflection and patience would allow to correct. A good lesson. To look beyond the mere actions of the store owner, take it all in and to go back took courage. I'm glad it was resolved and hopefully you'll post some pics of that U-boat?

-Tom

G-J
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Posted by G-J on Monday, November 10, 2014 8:44 PM

Thread of the year right here.....

On the bench:  Tamyia Mosquito Mk. VI for the '44 group build.  Yes, still.

On deck: 

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Posted by CodyJ on Monday, November 10, 2014 7:49 PM

Honorable actions man.

By law if a business posts a price on something, they lawfully must fell it to you at that price. Not everyone would have been so understanding as you were.  I have to admit after an owner exploded at me I probably would have exploded back.  

I hope the best for the owner.  I firmly believe in the power of prayer and that's one of the best thing you can do for someone who is having problems or needs it.  I would not be here with out it.

Major Kudos my friend!  Your actions are an inspiration and makes me realize & remember where I need to work on mine.

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  • From: Nampa, Idaho
Posted by jelliott523 on Monday, November 10, 2014 6:27 PM

Knight, you sir are a rare breed and I commend you on your actions.  The World needs more of your type of people in it, and less of the "What's-in-it-for-me" attitude.

On the Bench:  Lots of unfinished projects!  Smile

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    June 2014
Posted by vonSturmwolke on Monday, November 10, 2014 5:36 PM

Lovely story. Nice to hear something uplifting for a change. May I make a suggestion? Well, I'm gonna anyway. Build that greasy pig into a real show piece and then offer to display it there. What a circle that would make.

Nothing left but smoldering rubble. Nobody left but ghosts. This is what it is.

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  • From: Surrey B.C. Canada
Posted by Subhuman1 on Saturday, November 8, 2014 1:46 PM
Ok, this story brought a tear to my eye, heading into the holiday season ( ok soon enough we will be ), and along comes a story this good. Nice way to start the rush to Christmas. Great story, great in sites and fantastic outcome, definitely leaves hope out there for all of us to know not everything is as bad as they would have us believe on the evening news.
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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Saturday, November 8, 2014 12:49 PM

You sir could teach conflict resolution to the world. Starting with our global leaders and moving on to us average Joe's on the street.

It has occurred to me that in reading your initial post, I put myself in your place and turned me (playing you) into the victim. But your story proves yet again that there are always two sides to a story. You made the effort to hear the other side, and to me, that is what is so cool about this.

My hat too is off to you, good show mate.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, November 7, 2014 9:06 PM

Good form sir.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: Jefferson City, MO
Posted by iraqiwildman on Friday, November 7, 2014 8:14 PM

Very well done.

I am truly impressed you did not take advantage of this situation.

Bless you

Tim Wilding

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Posted by philo426 on Friday, November 7, 2014 7:48 PM

Talk about stepping up and doing the right thing!Kudos  for your great display of positive character!

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  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Friday, November 7, 2014 7:13 PM

Well done, Knight Templar. Your screen name is well-chosen.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Friday, November 7, 2014 7:02 PM

The model itself is secondary here. The mending of fences in the manner that it happened is wonderful. And your secret is safe with us.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by KnightTemplar5150 on Friday, November 7, 2014 6:59 PM
Doog, the way we reckon it in Big Sky country, the company you keep reflects directly on your character. This principle extends to cyberspace, too. It's pretty obvious that I am in good company here with all of you gentlemen. I'm grateful for that!
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Posted by the doog on Friday, November 7, 2014 6:06 PM

I cannot even begin to tell you how seriously impressed I am with what you did. It shows you to be a man of sincere integrity and honor, not to mention a generous and kind heart. It makes me glow to know that there are still people like you in the world. Thank you for relating your experiences here, and I Know that this will come back to you in good karma.

Well played, sir. A true class act. Toast Toast Toast Toast Toast Toast Toast Toast Toast Toast Toast Toast

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Friday, November 7, 2014 5:37 PM

That... my friend is a class act on both sides. Bravo!

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Posted by KnightTemplar5150 on Friday, November 7, 2014 5:23 PM

Gentlemen, each of you has my sincere thanks for contributing your thoughts here. I truly do appreciate the input from all of you.

Those of you who pointed out that I should have questioned the price marked on the kit are absolutely correct. The old clichés about assumptions definitely come into play here. This shop has offered consigned kits since just before Desert Shield. If a local hobbyist comes into financial difficulty or if one should pass away and the family needs help disposing of their collections, this shop has always tried to help as best they can in each circumstance. The U-boat kit was in a beat up box, so I just assumed that it was simply another lost nomadic kit in search of a builder. I guess that I have been in the hobby long enough to realize that Revell of Germany seldom shrink-wraps their offerings, but it never really occurred to me at the time that this may have been a new kit.

Anyhow, I took some time from work and studies this afternoon to finally get this situation off my conscience. I stopped by the store and the owner greeted me at the door with another apology. She called me "Timmy" the entire time, but I did not feel the need to correct her. We visited for nearly an hour and she explained her side of the story. The shop is, in fact, experiencing some very great financial difficulties and the owner has had to take out a reverse mortgage on her property holdings to meet the payroll and taxes. A recent visit to the doctor has revealed that she has some very serious medical conditions. She is well past retirement age, but she cannot afford to close shop at this point. Her tears told me the rest of the story. At the risk of betraying my reputation and exposing the gushy nonsense under my exterior, I may have had to fight back a tear myself, but please don't tell my wife or kids...I've raised them to be Spartans and anything to the contrary compromises the integrity of my leadership. Not a word!

The conversation eventually turned back to the kit. As I had guessed, it was a consigned kit, but she offered to let me take a look at the contents. First impressions were not favorable. The majority of the smaller parts had been clipped off the sprues and gathered into a zip-lock bag tucked into one of the hull halves; the fine railings for the wintergarten were broken beyond any reasonable hope of repair; and it appears that there may be a piece or two absent altogether. Underneath a pile of instruction sheets and pages torn from magazines which featured articles about this kit was a couple of real surprises - a WEM set of etch (beat up pretty hard, but workable) and a Nautilus wooden deck (many of the pieces loose and floating around the bottom of the box). While it was a mess, it was pretty apparent that someone had very big plans for this boat once upon a time.

In the end, I argued that the contents of the box were worth quite a bit more than the $125 she was asking and that I would be taking advantage of her if I did not give her a fair price for the lot. I made an offer well in excess of the asking price, but she countered with an unusual proposition. "Timmy," she said, "if you will forgive a foolish old woman and pray for her, you can just take the model. Bring it in when you are done with it so I can see how it turned out." So, we hugged it out and I took a knee to offer up a little prayer with her. She handed me the kit, gave me her blessing, and excused herself to go into the back to make herself presentable again. I took the opportunity to pay for the kit and left the clerk with instructions that the "change" was to be given directly to the owner, along with my thanks for her graciousness.

So, I guess that I now have a project for the winter...

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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, November 7, 2014 5:19 PM

As far as your continued patronage, I don't know what I would do. I might not shop there ever again.

As far as the posted price, see the second paragraph in this consumer reports link:

http://consumerreports.org/cro/shopping/december-2009/the-savvy-shopper/know-your-consumer-rights/the-savvy-shopper-consumer-rights.htm

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  • From: Barrie, Ontario
Posted by Cdn Colin on Friday, November 7, 2014 4:36 PM

If a deal looks too good to be true; it is.

I don't think you should worry too much about withholding your patronage; your LHS will be likely be gone by the end of the year.

Incidentally, I just picked up a Tamiya F4U.  The price tag said $33.99, but after taxes were added at the till it came to $32.89.  We both made a double take and checked the tag and what he keyed in.  He made a comment about it being a nice surprise.

I build 1/48 scale WW2 fighters.

Have fun.

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  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Friday, November 7, 2014 3:34 PM

It sounds to me like the lady in question was having some major emotional problem - perhaps related to the time of the month. Her behavior was inexcusable, but she did apologize.

One other thing to consider, though. If you have a good, well-established hobby shop within driving distance, you're a lucky man. Unless there's another one nearby (in which case you're a REALLY lucky man), I suggest considering carefully whether you want to give up that priceless asset over an incident like this.

In Hampton, VA (near where I used to live) there used to be a good-sized hobby shop owner by a disagreeable man and his equally disagreeable wife. They divorced, and in the settlement each of them got half of the store. So they both continued working there. Talk about a less-than-congenial atmosphere....

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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