Do you ever feel CHEATED?

BlackSheepTwoOneFour

 

 

PFJN

Hi,

Unfortunately it is also considered in some areas to be an insult as I believe it derived from negative ethnic slang, so "ripped off" may be a better term to use here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

How does "screwed" or even "gypped" a negative ethnic slang? It's pretty common slang to say "You got screwed" (not in a sexual way *eye roll*) or even "You're screwed"... Just saying.... 

 

Gypped comes from a derogatory term for the Romani people, otherwise known as Gypsies. Also gypo is another term used as one who buys stuff at extremely low prices.  Or works to undercut other people as in Gypo logger.  Wikipedia.  "Beggars, tramps, and thieves"....

PFJN

Hi,

Unfortunately it is also considered in some areas to be an insult as I believe it derived from negative ethnic slang, so "ripped off" may be a better term to use here.

 

 

How does "screwed" or even "gypped" a negative ethnic slang? It's pretty common slang to say "You got screwed" (not in a sexual way *eye roll*) or even "You're screwed"... Just saying.... 

Hi,

This thread and another on "what was your first kit" got me remembering about some early kits I built.  Many of my early kits were cars from the local 5 & Dime that sold 1/32(?) scale cars that may have been Lindberg, Life Like, or AMT (I'm not sure).

Anyway, most of those kits were of older 1930s/40s era cars.  Once they got in a model for a newer (1960s/70s era) car, that I decided that I really wanted.  Unfortunately it was more expensive than the other kits so I had to save up my money.

Eventually, after (I thought) I had enough money I went to by it only to find that I was a bit short.  Eventhough my brother and the sales clerk both tried to convince me to by a cheaper model, I had my heart set on the more expensive "newer car" kit, so I think that my brother finally loaned me the extra 50-75 cents, that I needed.

I guess at the time I had only built the other (Lindbergh/Life-Like/etc) kits, and was probably expecting something similar.  Unfortunately when I got home and opened the kit up, I found the kit was a bit more "toy-like" than the kits I was used to. 

I guess its not that I felt "ripped off" or anything, but I did kind of feel a bit "bummed" I guess that it wasn't what I was hoping for.

Pat

Hi,

Unfortunately it is also considered in some areas to be an insult as I believe it derived from negative ethnic slang, so "ripped off" may be a better term to use here.

I believe the word is also derived from the wandering, nomadic group of people known as "Gypsies", based on the alledged way they did business.  It was not a complimentary reference.

Also meaning he got screwed. LOL!

hogfanfs

 

 

 

Bish

Sorry, but i just have to ask. Whats gypped?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

gyp

jip/

informal

verb

past tense: gypped; past participle: gypped

1. cheat or swindle (someone).

   "that's salesmanship, you have to gyp people into buying stuff they don't like"

 

Thanks Bruce, guess it must be an American thing, never heard of it.

It has been a long time since.  Being in the hobby as long as I have, I have learned what kits to expect good stuff from and those to avoid.  This is especially true on stuff from Eastern Europe.

If there is a new brand, or one of the few I haven't tried already, I look for help from model club members or online forums.

There are getting to be a bunch of new brands these days, especially from Asia.  I listen to others opinions before I try a new brand.  However, most of my modeling friends have been saying good things about these new Asian brands.

If I really want something from Lindberg or Glencoe, I try not to expect too much.  I have to really want the subject, and the price must not be very much.

Sorry, but i just have to ask. Whats gypped?

Everytime I buy something model related it doesn' stop me though.

It all depends on where you ordered it from. Have you compared prices of the kit from other online stores? Sometimes you will find it cheaper elsewhere besides your go-to online store. 

I agree with scalemates as well. It’s worth the time to research the kit before buying it.

I hear ya loud and clear. I’ve become quite a bargain hunter in this hobby over the past decades. I see the list prices of some kits and shake my head. Especially when I know what’s in the box and know the original and past pricing of the same molds. 

stikpusher

 

 

Bakster

This may be true if you are choosing from a genre where multiple knockoffs are available. In my case, there was only one. I knew that I was settling for something potentially bad. I just didn't expect it to be as bad.

 

 

 

well even in mainstream categories, there are kit subjects that are the only game in town in a given scale. Sure there oodles and oodles of some subjects out there. But others in injection plastic... good luck. 

For example, if you want a 1/48 F-82, there is only one injection plastic kit out there, by Modelcraft of Canada. It has less than a stellar reputation. And let’s just say that if you need that kit to fill a gap in your collection,(which I do for my Korean War collection) then the choice is that and that alone. Unless somebody comes out with one I can afford before I leave the hobby. 

If you have not been to Scalemates, you should check it out. They have a pretty comprehensive database of most every kit out there. Not always linked to reviews, as many older kits have no reviews. But at least you know the vintage and lineage of a kit and then have a good idea of what to expect. 

 

 

GMorrison

Sure I sent thirty bucks on gas yesterday, went up to the City, came back today. CR sitting where it was Wednesday.

Nothing to show for it.

Point his the trip is the value.

 

Sure I sent thirty bucks on gas yesterday, went up to the City, came back today. CR sitting where it was Wednesday.

Nothing to show for it.

Point his the trip is the value.

Bakster

This may be true if you are choosing from a genre where multiple knockoffs are available. In my case, there was only one. I knew that I was settling for something potentially bad. I just didn't expect it to be as bad.

 

well even in mainstream categories, there are kit subjects that are the only game in town in a given scale. Sure there oodles and oodles of some subjects out there. But others in injection plastic... good luck. 

For example, if you want a 1/48 F-82, there is only one injection plastic kit out there, by Modelcraft of Canada. It has less than a stellar reputation. And let’s just say that if you need that kit to fill a gap in your collection,(which I do for my Korean War collection) then the choice is that and that alone. Unless somebody comes out with one I can afford before I leave the hobby. 

If you have not been to Scalemates, you should check it out. They have a pretty comprehensive database of most every kit out there. Not always linked to reviews, as many older kits have no reviews. But at least you know the vintage and lineage of a kit and then have a good idea of what to expect. 

patrick206

Same thing for me, bought the Revell AH-1W in 1:48th, most of the kit was just excellent. But the canopy fit was quite poor, required many bits of thin plastic stock to make for a proper fit. Then, only one way to assemble the main rotor system, (instructions confirm that,) and the direction of rotation is reverse. No practical way to correct, and a purchaser shouldn't have to.  Even the box art shows the defect. It's for a young Marine, medically retired after disabling wounds in Afghanistan, he was a Crew Chief on the AH-1W. He would see the problem of reverse direction very easily, can't present that clunker to him, it resides in the trash and have the replacement on order. $26 wasted. The replacement was produced by a different kit manufacturer. Patrick  

I am sorry for you Patrick. And for a noble cause too. 

stikpusher

Not in a long time. It’s too easy to research a kit nowadays and have a real good idea of what’s in the box before you ever order. 

 

Bakster

I just ordered and received a kit. When I opened it... I thought...I paid what for this? Sheesh. A dollars worth of plastic (at most), and $28 bucks later with shipping, I feel gypped. I'm not complaining really because I knew I was not gonna get much. But holy cats. This kit should sell for $3.00 at most. I might get a better prize from a gum ball machine. It is a bit sad. That is all that I am saying. Ah well. It is still a good value for the many hours of enjoyment (torture) I will get. 

THE END

 

 

 

Then, only one way to assemble the main rotor system, (instructions confirm that,) and the direction of rotation is reverse. No practical way to correct, and a purchaser shouldn't have to.  Even the box art shows the defect.

It's for a young Marine, medically retired after disabling wounds in Afghanistan, he was a Crew Chief on the AH-1W. He would see the problem of reverse direction very easily, can't present that clunker to him, it resides in the trash and have the replacement on order. $26 wasted.

The replacement was produced by a different kit manufacturer.

Patrick

Not in a long time. It’s too easy to research a kit nowadays and have a real good idea of what’s in the box before you ever order. 

Amen, GH.

Have seen a few over the last couple of years where the box was worth more than the contents.........and not just in modeling.

Then you have the other side of the coin...as in, what am I supposed to do with all this (95 tiny individual parts when it could have been done in 3 semi easy to handle parts), but at least it looks like you got what you paid for.

But kind of the same way.....all in the enjoyment.