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What plane is this?
Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 2:54 PM

Flying very slowly over Boise yesterday. I snaped a picture...I had plenty of time.

What is it?

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Posted by DiscoStu on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 3:06 PM

Tough to tell for sure.  A B-25, maybe? 

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Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 3:09 PM

Wing shape out to nacelles and tail configuration tend to say Mitchell to me too.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 4:19 PM

Wings look too narrow in chord for a B-25. Possibly a C-7 Caribou

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 4:24 PM

modelcrazy

Flying very slowly over Boise yesterday. I snaped a picture...I had plenty of time.

What is it?

 

 

compare a B-25 from similar angle

 

 

 

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 4:56 PM

Hard to tell from the picture.  Could you tell if it had fixed landing gear?  Did it have a single vertical stab or double?

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Posted by armornut on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 5:31 PM

   I think it's a B-25. does the WarBirds museum over in Napa,( Eagle), Idaho have a flying B-25?

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Posted by Tojo72 on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 5:53 PM

That was fun,here are some of mine that are probably easy

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 6:19 PM

The cord is not wide enough for a B25. I think Stick may be right but it looks to have two vertical stabs. Mustang, yes I believe it had retracs

Tojo, B24, B29

At first I thought it might be a Manchester. 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 6:24 PM

I did too, but there aren't any left. The striking characteristic is the inboard flap edges being square to the centerline.

 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 7:23 PM
I don't think it's a B-25. The nacelles don't extend past the trailing edge of the wing

 

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Posted by Caveman on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 7:56 PM

I believe it's a caribou or even a buffalo.

 

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Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 8:17 PM

Thanks,

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Posted by Dodgy on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 9:16 PM

For my two pennys worth I reckon its a B25

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 10:14 PM

I am sure it's a civilian. Slow means not a turbo.

It'll come up "short"ly. Something like a DH Caribou.

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 10:51 PM

Caveman

I believe it's a caribou or even a buffalo.

 

 

I’m not familiar with the Buffalo, but after looking it up, yes it could be that also. Apparently the Buffalo is based off of the Caribou. The types of engines used and the placement of the horizontal stabilizers being the main differences. Did it sound like it had radial engines or turboprop engines? 

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 10:52 PM

I can see a slight bulge on the trailing edge that could be the nacelle extensions, and the vertical stabs are at the ends of the horizontal stabs.  Wing shape suggests maybe some diehidral from the fuselage to the nacelles.

Still thinking B 25.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 11:07 PM

stikpusher

 

 

 

 

 

visual aspects against B-25

Engine nacelles do not project far enough back from the trailing edge of the wings

longer distance in the fuselage between the wings and the horizontal stabilizers

nose does not extend as far out past the engine nacelles 

wings appear to extend out further from engine nacelles and are thinner in chord 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, September 9, 2020 7:38 AM

stikpusher

 

 
Caveman

I believe it's a caribou or even a buffalo.

 

 

 

 

I’m not familiar with the Buffalo, but after looking it up, yes it could be that also. Apparently the Buffalo is based off of the Caribou. The types of engines used and the placement of the horizontal stabilizers being the main differences. Did it sound like it had radial engines or turboprop engines? 

 

Radials.

I know what a 25 looks like in the sky. I can pick a B-17, B24, B25, A26, B29, HE111 and a Ford tri motor from the ground and I garantee this was not a Mitchell. 

John, if there were any HE 117s and they just happen to be flying over Boise, I'd totaly agree.

Stick and Caveman are probably right, something like a Caribou or Buffalo. Two things bother me though, why did it appear (too far for a positive conformation really) to have twin vert stabs and why would it still have radals? On the speed, at a longer distance I thought it might have been a 17 at first. I've seen plenty of those and I had lots of time to get my camera, wait till it was closer then shoot.

It's probably a tanker for the fires but I usually recognize those as well.

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Wednesday, September 9, 2020 7:51 AM

Having Owned a B-25;

    It is definitely not one of those. More Likely a Caribou or a Buffalo. They are similar and so many have had mods to keep them flying.The only other plane that would've qualified except for the Empennage is the Canadair Fire Bomber.

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, September 9, 2020 11:18 AM

The Caribou has radial engines. The Buffalo has turboprops. Completely different sounds as I’m sure that you’d know. And both types are STOL capable aircraft, so the slow is not an issue for them. 

 

modelcrazy

 

 
stikpusher

 

 
Caveman

I believe it's a caribou or even a buffalo.

 

 

 

 

I’m not familiar with the Buffalo, but after looking it up, yes it could be that also. Apparently the Buffalo is based off of the Caribou. The types of engines used and the placement of the horizontal stabilizers being the main differences. Did it sound like it had radial engines or turboprop engines? 

 

 

 

Radials.

I know what a 25 looks like in the sky. I can pick a B-17, B24, B25, A26, B29, HE111 and a Ford tri motor from the ground and I garantee this was not a Mitchell. 

John, if there were any HE 117s and they just happen to be flying over Boise, I'd totaly agree.

Stick and Caveman are probably right, something like a Caribou or Buffalo. Two things bother me though, why did it appear (too far for a positive conformation really) to have twin vert stabs and why would it still have radals? On the speed, at a longer distance I thought it might have been a 17 at first. I've seen plenty of those and I had lots of time to get my camera, wait till it was closer then shoot.

It's probably a tanker for the fires but I usually recognize those as well.

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, September 9, 2020 11:27 AM

stikpusher

Wings look too narrow in chord for a B-25. Possibly a C-7 Caribou

 

The squared off stabs too. Good call.

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Posted by mawright20 on Wednesday, September 9, 2020 12:37 PM
Tapered wings and double tail...B-25
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Posted by scottrc on Wednesday, September 9, 2020 1:02 PM

It is impossible to tell from the photo if it has radials or turbos.  I would lean towards a Buffalo deploying smoke jumpers. 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, September 9, 2020 1:11 PM

stikpusher

Wings look too narrow in chord for a B-25. Possibly a C-7 Caribou

 

But that has a single vertical tail.  Also, Mitchell is not a very high aspect ratio wing.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, September 9, 2020 3:32 PM

scottrc

It is impossible to tell from the photo if it has radials or turbos.  I would lean towards a Buffalo deploying smoke jumpers. 

 

The sound were radials, that's what made me look up. We get a lot of Dash 8's out of BOI so I ignore turboprops but radials.....

I think Scott may have it, loaded with smoke jumpers.

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Posted by BrandonK on Wednesday, September 9, 2020 3:47 PM

I would bet money it's a fire plane, perhaps smoke jumpers, out of NIFC.

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, September 9, 2020 3:49 PM

May be, with a fire cooking on the OR/ID border.

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Posted by skyraider0609 on Wednesday, September 9, 2020 9:25 PM
I’ll say Caribou if it had radials
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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, September 9, 2020 10:14 PM

 

What kind of a plane is That?

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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