GAF

Okay, then... It's a ME-110 on it's way to bomb Pearl Harbor.

 

"Forget it...he's rolling."

Wow Tanker-Builder!!!! Thats a heck of an opening line. Ive never known anyone who has owned a warbird before, let alone a beastie with two engines.

Okay, then... It's a ME-110 on it's way to bomb Pearl Harbor.

The trouble is...that picture was taken in a different part of teh country, maybe over White Sands.

The Loadstar was a shorter, fatter aircraft with thicker wings, unless someone's been on Jenny Graig recently.

modelcrazy

That's a B-25 right there

But not for very long....

gregbale

 

 

Gamera

Not sure what sort of plane it is. 

Pretty sure it ain't The Giant Claw though... 

 

 

 

 

 

That's a B-25 right there

Gamera

Not sure what sort of plane it is. 

Pretty sure it ain't The Giant Claw though... 

 

Oh, detective work!

Well, the photo is a bit blurry, so it's hard to say.  Perspective is a problem.

However, there is an airshow in Twin Falls in which the CAF B-25 is appearing.

https://commemorativeairforce.org/events/293

Not sure what other aircraft are showing up.  Will have to check if there is a list.

Gary

Not sure what sort of plane it is. 

Pretty sure it ain't The Giant Claw though... 

NF- 104. Not really but a dressed up 104.

Im quite sure the original is a Caribou. Viewer heard radials. It really does not resemble a Mitchell for the reasons stated.

Also, those were hot rods with a pair of 2600s

I'm quite certain it is a DH Caribou. The location and apparent purpose of the flight fits, i.e. there aren't any airshows going on and it is fire season.

Notice the inner wing trailing edges go pretty much straight across. Big flaps, STOL set up. The Caribou does have a little "gull" in the wings.

It's impossible to tell wether there is one vertical tail or more, but the horizontal stab is a squared off rectangle which suggests that. However thats also a feature of the Caribou/ Buffalo.

As noted by others, the proportions don't fit a Mitchell.

Last thing. Yes an aircraft can throttle back, but in usual flight the Mitchell is a hot rod with two 2600s. Caribou cruise is 160 mph, Mitchell is 230.

I am starting to agree with those who think it is not a B-25.  I think the nose is not long enough.   Could it be an old Lockeed, maybe a Lodestar?  That had twin tails and radials.

stikpusher

 

What kind of a plane is That?

 

It coiuldn't be a B-25, it's nowhere near the Empire State Building.

My original guess would have been a C-7.

What kind of a plane is That?

May be, with a fire cooking on the OR/ID border.

I would bet money it's a fire plane, perhaps smoke jumpers, out of NIFC.

BK

scottrc

It is impossible to tell from the photo if it has radials or turbos.  I would lean towards a Buffalo deploying smoke jumpers. 

 

The sound were radials, that's what made me look up. We get a lot of Dash 8's out of BOI so I ignore turboprops but radials.....

I think Scott may have it, loaded with smoke jumpers.

stikpusher

Wings look too narrow in chord for a B-25. Possibly a C-7 Caribou

 

But that has a single vertical tail.  Also, Mitchell is not a very high aspect ratio wing.

It is impossible to tell from the photo if it has radials or turbos.  I would lean towards a Buffalo deploying smoke jumpers. 

stikpusher

Wings look too narrow in chord for a B-25. Possibly a C-7 Caribou

 

The Caribou has radial engines. The Buffalo has turboprops. Completely different sounds as I’m sure that you’d know. And both types are STOL capable aircraft, so the slow is not an issue for them. 

modelcrazy

 

 

stikpusher

 

 

Caveman

I believe it's a caribou or even a buffalo.

 

 

 

 

 

I’m not familiar with the Buffalo, but after looking it up, yes it could be that also. Apparently the Buffalo is based off of the Caribou. The types of engines used and the placement of the horizontal stabilizers being the main differences. Did it sound like it had radial engines or turboprop engines? 

 

 

 

 

Radials.

I know what a 25 looks like in the sky. I can pick a B-17, B24, B25, A26, B29, HE111 and a Ford tri motor from the ground and I garantee this was not a Mitchell. 

John, if there were any HE 117s and they just happen to be flying over Boise, I'd totaly agree.

Stick and Caveman are probably right, something like a Caribou or Buffalo. Two things bother me though, why did it appear (too far for a positive conformation really) to have twin vert stabs and why would it still have radals? On the speed, at a longer distance I thought it might have been a 17 at first. I've seen plenty of those and I had lots of time to get my camera, wait till it was closer then shoot.

It's probably a tanker for the fires but I usually recognize those as well.

 

Having Owned a B-25;

    It is definitely not one of those. More Likely a Caribou or a Buffalo. They are similar and so many have had mods to keep them flying.The only other plane that would've qualified except for the Empennage is the Canadair Fire Bomber.

stikpusher

 

 

Caveman

I believe it's a caribou or even a buffalo.

 

 

 

 

 

I’m not familiar with the Buffalo, but after looking it up, yes it could be that also. Apparently the Buffalo is based off of the Caribou. The types of engines used and the placement of the horizontal stabilizers being the main differences. Did it sound like it had radial engines or turboprop engines? 

 

Radials.

I know what a 25 looks like in the sky. I can pick a B-17, B24, B25, A26, B29, HE111 and a Ford tri motor from the ground and I garantee this was not a Mitchell. 

John, if there were any HE 117s and they just happen to be flying over Boise, I'd totaly agree.

Stick and Caveman are probably right, something like a Caribou or Buffalo. Two things bother me though, why did it appear (too far for a positive conformation really) to have twin vert stabs and why would it still have radals? On the speed, at a longer distance I thought it might have been a 17 at first. I've seen plenty of those and I had lots of time to get my camera, wait till it was closer then shoot.

It's probably a tanker for the fires but I usually recognize those as well.

stikpusher

 

 

 

 

 

visual aspects against B-25

Engine nacelles do not project far enough back from the trailing edge of the wings

longer distance in the fuselage between the wings and the horizontal stabilizers

nose does not extend as far out past the engine nacelles 

wings appear to extend out further from engine nacelles and are thinner in chord 

I can see a slight bulge on the trailing edge that could be the nacelle extensions, and the vertical stabs are at the ends of the horizontal stabs.  Wing shape suggests maybe some diehidral from the fuselage to the nacelles.

Still thinking B 25.