open challenge to all modelers!

... claymore68/

You would be most welcome ... and you're right ... we are having fun! I sure hope you will join us on our next CBP adventure.

Been behind on mine...but hey...we can't have everyone finish. It wouldn't be right.

At the current stage I'm at, it would fit nicely into my collection of unfinished models.

Regarding the tool list, I know it's been discusses a bit now and I think everyone is in agreement to drop the tool list. Except for a few things, mostly everything is readily available and inexpensive. We'll probably get more enjoyment and more participation if we're not worrying about the tools we're using.

The timeframe - well that's probably something that we should decide upon on a per kit basis. If it's an easier kit, then maybe a month or possibly less would be fine. If the kit is really hard, then maybe two months.

Aftermarket parts, etc. - maybe we should make this optional. If we allow airbrushes, then why not? With the time that's invested, might as well be flexible. I think it would be interesting to read the different approaches that would be taken and who would choose aftermarket parts and why and for what parts.

As far as CBP's are concerned, if people want to run something different, I think that would be good. If a couple people want to start building planes together, go for it. Maybe some will do armor or whatever. I mean I like this CBP that we've got going, the F-18 and the proposed Ferrari coming up (?). However, I'm thinking that if a bunch of people were discussing a particular kit and a couple of people were interested, then make it into a CBP and set your own timeframe, etc. (Does this make sense?)

So I guess it comes down to this. For a CBP, we just decide on the subject/kit and timeframe .... and just have fun and post pictures of your work.

I think we've learned a lot from the first CBP.

QUOTE: Tools: exacto knife tweezers sand paper cuticle file/emery board liquid cement or tube glue CA glue filler paint brushes spray can or bottled paint

You mean that that is MINIMAL tools? Heck, I don't even use THAT many tools! I don't use spray paint, or CA glue, the only smoothing system I have is sandpaper, and the only filler I have is white glue! And, my models come out looking great anyway! And, I've never used a single detail kit!

TenchiMuyo.
That's great! Some of us are not as talented as you and tend to convince ourselves that more tools are somehow better. My experience is that 'model building' really is about several different hobbies all rolled into one:
1. building the model
2. collecting all kinds of useless tools that somehow allow you to build better models...
3. collecting the kits themselves.
4. bit*hing about the model manufacturers and their supposed incompetence when it comes to designing/tooling a new model (I don't participate in this, but I've seen so much of it lately, I had to put it in the list...)
5. researching the kit subject.
6. participating in on-line forums

Some of us focus on one or two of the above more than others. My weakness is probably #6...

M.

QUOTE: Originally posted by mkish TenchiMuyo. That's great! Some of us are not as talented as you and tend to convince ourselves that more tools are somehow better. My experience is that 'model building' really is about several different hobbies all rolled into one: 1. building the model 2. collecting all kinds of useless tools that somehow allow you to build better models... 3. collecting the kits themselves. 4. bit*hing about the model manufacturers and their supposed incompetence when it comes to designing/tooling a new model (I don't participate in this, but I've seen so much of it lately, I had to put it in the list...) 5. researching the kit subject. 6. participating in on-line forums Some of us focus on one or two of the above more than others. My weakness is probably #6... M.

My vote is for number 3.

Uhm, that a stock room of a store, right?

No, just one of the bays in my three car garage that will not hold a car. My fellow clubs members come over once in awhile and drool. Lots of old kits - Hawk, Aurora, Esci, Entex, etc.

Ummm, thanx for the compliment, but, it's not called for! The only reason I have so few tools is lack of money! Believe me, it ain't fun! I would kill for a nice dremel, and an airbrush!

Tenchimuyo81,

Not that I'm taking sides but, After reading your first post I was thinking along the same lines as Mkish. Your comments seemed to indicate that you were bragging about your talents. After your second post it would appear that this is NOT the case. Sometimes it can be easy to misinterpret something a person will say. Thanks for clearing that up.

Darren

Hello to all,
so i repeat for me as a newbie :

Normal equipment
+ OOB KIT
Startline030703

all kits ( WW2 fighter e.g. ) cn bu used

Right ?

This group is different from the one doing the ferrari build?????

Hi littlemoe,

My understanding is, and I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong, is that this thread is what started the whole CBP thing. When it started to develop a 'mind of its own', they separated the original project and then the Ferrari project into different threads so that the threads would hopefully stay a little smaller and thus more manageable. I don't know if everyone from this group will participate in the Ferrari project but the Ferrari project is not a completely separate group. This is what started everything. If you do a little digging through this thread it should hopefully start to make a little more sense. I'm sure some of the original members could explain it better but I hope that helps clarify things a little.

Ray

heylonghair,

You summarized things very well. I am in this first F-18 CBP, and only finished today! I posted some pictures that participants sent to me for the F-18 build, which if you wish you can see them at http://www.safeplace.net/darienk/cbp.html I took pictures of my finished project just today as a matter of fact. About the same time as starting in this CBP, a modeler friend, who cannot do much any more due to health issues, gave me a kit as a suprise gift, so I have worked on that also, and need to finish it next.

I know we just started the second CBP, but isnt'it time to think anout #3..? I suggested the Ferrari for #2, so I'm going to shut up on this one and go along with the rest of you, but the earlier we know what to look for the easier it will be to start and the longer we have to 'recruit' new members..

Anyhow, how many of us are there in the CBP #2???

Well, I'll throw this out for people to 'chew on'. How about a figure for the next one. It could be either vinyl or resin,and either a complete figure or just a bust. I really don't know anything about figures so maybe someone with a little more knowledge could fill in some of the blanks. Just one suggestion, lets see what else people think.

Ray

Hello all,
I´m interested in participating of this project too,
what is the actual project?
When is the deadline for finishing?

lito,
head over to this link and you should find all that you need:
http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=583

As for next kit, I'd be into trying a figure. That would be a first for me. If everyone else agrees, I'd like to suggest that we allow the Gundam kits because I'm quite interested in building one of those.

M.

I have posted pictures of my finished F-18. Again, the link to the page I did for the F-18 CBP is:

http://www.safeplace.net/darienk/cbp.html

Now I need to concentrate on the 1/72 Lagg fighter that a friend gave me. I guess I'll see where things are at for the Ferrari CBP when that time comes, unless it will be way too late for that.

A figure or a bust sounds good to me!

hi!!!!!!

How about a Sci-Fi project???????? I don't know about the figure though, I'm still not that great at painting, but if that is what we agree
on, then thats ok with me.......... perhaps we can invite some of the people that live in the FIGURES threat to come in and help us out???
Just a thoght!!!!!

Well, no one else has really jumped in and dropped any suggestions. It doesn't really matter what subject we do next. We'll eventually get around to all of them, providing we keep this CBP going. I'm up for either one. But if you do a Star Trek figure or something like that wouldn't that make it a Sci-Fi project? Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Anyway, so here's the suggestions so far:
1. figure
2. Sci-Fi

We've got some time yet so let's see if anyone has any more suggestions or what the preference is.

Ray

seems to me that the CBP is starting to fail.............. just a thought......

Come on littlemoe, you shouldn't be so negative.
There's probably a few factors coming into play right now. At this particular time of year there's probably a lot of spring fever going on so people are taking a little break. The second one was started a little early too, maybe. There were a few people that weren't even finished the first one, yet.
Anyway, as long as we're having fun, it doesn't really matter how many people are participating. We'll have to expect some fluctuation in the participation.

Ray

winter hasgotten me depresededddd.... (spelling LOL) sorry :(

Perhaps once the warmer weather is here to stay......

I like the Scifi suggestion. See the Ferrari CBP thread for updates on my buildup.

M.

My vote goes for :
project nº 3 - figure
project nº 4 - sci fi
project nº 5 - WW II armor (maybe we should specify more exactly)

Good idea lito.sf. I was thinking myself that we should make a list of possible project subjects and then we could set up a temporary timeline and that would give us time to look for models and such. Here are a couple more subjects that we might consider:
Boat
Truck
Space (as opposed to Sci-Fi)
Motorbike (I've been dying to build a nice Tamiya kit - but I'd need some time to save up the dough. )
We could probably split WWII armour into 2 or more different subjects

That's all I can come up with off the top of my head. What else is out there that we could do. Let's get some more suggestions and then we can post a complete list and get a timeline going here.

Just looking at the other forums here. We could also add Helicopter as well.

Ray

Just set a finish date and a model type for the CPB and go for it.
This isnt rocket surgery; so what if you never built a PT boat (for xample) before. A skilled builder can work with anything, and if looks like crap,you'll do better next time.
Quit sounding like a bunch of women-- get yer butts to a hobby shop and have fun.

over and out!

PRIVATE!!! Drop and give me 20!!

Just kidding!

We are actually in the middle of a CBP right now. Building a Ferrari. It's just nice to have an idea of what might be coming up, especially if someone hasn't built a certain subject before then they can be on the lookout for something that they might like to build. Also reading the "State of the hobby" thread a lot of people don't live next door to a hobby shop so they can't just run out and pick up a kit on a whim.

Are you in for the next one?? Do you have any preference?

Ray

I just found this challenge today 4-23-03 was wondering if the
f-18c project was still on. Have not buildt a jet in a long time
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