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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 6, 2003 2:22 PM
Still no kit for me either, but let's not hold everyone up on that account. I'll get one some way or another! Off to Wal-Mart tonight to see if I can get the blue-angels version.

M.
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Thursday, February 6, 2003 2:00 AM
One day to go..! Still haven't got my 1/48 F-18, but the e-Bay auction only terminates tomorrow morning, so I keep my finger crossed and I might have a kit early next week. Agreed with BR, does not matter if I start a bit late. Taking part is the most important thing. I might still start the 1/72 kit in the meantime...
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Posted by dariencharlie on Thursday, February 6, 2003 1:20 AM
BR, thanks for pointing to the help on smiles and images. Smile [:)]

I would also agree to any F-18 variant. We certainly don't want anyone left out for that reason. As you say, the emphasis is on to have fun.

As for posting pictures, for this first build I might help with that if so desired. I have some web space with my ISP and, assuming it is enough space, if people email me images I can post them and share the URL when done. I'm no web master and it might not be fancy, but could get the job done.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 5, 2003 7:43 PM
Doh!! Didn't realize the Revell Monogram kit was discontinued.

I may be going out on a limb here, but since no one disagreed over opening it up to any variants of the F-18, I don't think the Blue Angels kit would be a problem.

With the first project - we're going to jump right into it and "wing it" (hehe...) as we go along. I'm sure there will be a lot of discussion after the project is complete about what worked and what didn't. Regardless, the important thing is to have fun.
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Posted by dkmacin on Wednesday, February 5, 2003 7:27 PM
This sounds very interesting. . .but,
The Revell Monogram FA18C was discontinued, it is now the Blue Angels FA18 and of course molded in blue. Could I use the decals I saved from the FA18C on the Blue Angels FA18 or do I have to build the Blue Angels aircraft?
I used aftermarket decals on the FA18C for my niece (USN VFA-131 Wildcats).
You guys can make the call, either way I'm in. . .I have the kit already.
BTW, your tool list is about all I have on my bench so I won't be cheating.
We do a build the same kit in our local club and always have a good turn out.
As for posting photo's. . .maybe my son can help there, he's much more savvy than I am on the is computer.

Don
I know it's only rock and roll, but I like it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 5, 2003 7:00 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dariencharlie

( Insert Smile picture, I haven't figure out how to do that yet...)

Maybe this will help - FAQ - How can I use smilies and images? Smile [:)]

That was very nice of you looking around for an additional F-18 kit. Although you didn't find one, it's greatly appreciated!

I haven't looked yet - I've been really sick the past couple of days. However I'm fairly confident I'll find one. There are a bunch of hobby shops in the area. I'll be amazed if I can't find one kit. If I don't, I'll just have to go online.

About the start date - I don't know. It would be great to start on Friday. Even if someone doesn't have a kit at that time (which could be me), there's an entire month to complete it. The way I look at it, this isn't a competition - so it doesn't really matter when it starts, if it's completed, how it looks, if it's painted, etc. In fact, I would love to see someone start an F-18 kit six months from now because of our project discussions.

I hope that these project discussions will over time become a useful resource for other modelers. Even well after the project has been wrapped up.
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Posted by dariencharlie on Wednesday, February 5, 2003 5:51 PM
Hi, All,

I tried to see if I could find another kit at a Hobby Lobby ( big craft store with a pretty good model selection ) but did not. That's not the store I got mine at, but there was only the one where I found mine.

I thought I could offer it to whoever, first come first serve, to mail/sell it to anyone who could not find one. I suppose one could get it as quickly by mail over the web.

But do we need to take inventory, if anyone without a kit by Friday, should we postpone start date?

By the way while I was in that Hobby Lobby I couldn't resist picking someting up! 1/48 Monogram F-86D Dog Sabre ( I don't know what the "Dog" means, maybe some of you do). So, see what you guys made me do? ( Insert Smile picture, I haven't figure out how to do that yet...)
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 4, 2003 7:07 PM
Hello everyone,

Future seams like a reasonable stretch of the imagination[:0]. Do we have everything on the list that we need? Pretty soon we will have our entire workbench on the list (just kidding). I certainly appreciated the friendly reminder about clearing off the workbench of any "unapproved" tools the other day. I'm sure I will need more reminders as we move along.

I have yet to obtain my model. To tell the truth, I haven't even gone looking for it yet. I know I had one in my blackhole of a collection somewhere. Oh well, thats another story. I work best under pressureCool [8D]

I've been extremely busy trying to wrap up a project that I'm working on. I have hardly had time to come to the forum except late at night. I suspect the frequency of our visits to diminish a bit during the build. At least mine will. If you guys don't slow down I will begin to wonder if you have jobs.

Darren
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Tuesday, February 4, 2003 2:01 AM
I think Future should be considered as paint and as such allowed. Since spray cans are also OK, there is an alternative to paintbrushes..! Still, it should not be that easy to get a nice two-tone finish, but I'll try!

Could not find my 1/48 F-18 in the shops either, but I'm hoping to get one off e-Bay in 2 days... It's an Italeri kit, and the guy selling it is including no less than 2 sets of brass and a resin seat...! I can always trade those back on e-Bay and get my money back that way I guess! Ha! But just in case, I purchased a 1/72 F-18...
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 3, 2003 11:17 PM
Future is such a modelling 'staple' that I just assumed it would be a given. I'm not sure any modeling project would be lefit if Future was not allowed. Here's the twist though: if we don't allow airbrushes, then that means you gotta brush it on.

My opinion, but I'll go the way of the group...

PS. I went to the hobbyshop today to pick up an 1/48 F-18 and they didn't have any in stock!! What ???!!! Nothing by any manufacturer. I guess I'll try hitting Wal-Mart, etc...
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Posted by upnorth on Monday, February 3, 2003 8:35 PM
I like this idea a lot, I'll have to pas on the first couple of rounds though. I'm trying to get a few lingering projects on my bench done before I take on any more, but I'll keep my eyes open for upcoming community builds in the future.

Great idea, Darren, hope this can be an ongoing thing.
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Posted by dariencharlie on Monday, February 3, 2003 8:16 PM
I was able to pick up the Revell F-18C today.

We said the build time ends, end of February, right?

Maybe silly question, but would Future be considered on or off the list? I take it that its no different than clear acrylic paint, if there is such a thing, but thought I'd ask.

Once building starts I may be more quiet here also, just for the reason of time.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 3, 2003 5:29 PM
Col. Kurtz,

We are not "officialy" starting until this Fri. 2/7/03. I put in the quotes because I suspect some of us may start a tad earlyTongue [:P]. Hopefully this will give you the time you need. It's ok if you get started late also. There is no cutoff date for joining. Me, I'll start Friday, I need all the time I can get.

B.R.

Bear with me, I'm a little slow on the uptake Big Smile [:D].
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 3, 2003 2:13 PM
Well, it can't start now. Are we just prepping for it, like telling everyone its gonna start so get you r supplies ready. I know I can't do it if it starts now, I don't have any extra kits on me and I wont be able to hiot hemodel store in time. Tell me when we have another one.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 2, 2003 11:59 PM
A few things:
- agree with opening it up to any F-18. The spirit is the same...
- I deny any accusations about starting this whole thing. It came to life on it's own.
- I'm sure we'll pass the 'torch' around as this whole thing goes on, but my vote is for darrenbb to lead the way! Nice job spreading the word!

I haven't been down to pickup a kit yet, but hoping to get there tomorrow!

M.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 2, 2003 10:00 PM
I was just joking about the posting thing. Smile [:)]
Tongue [:P]Wink [;)] = joking Wink [;)]

I can help in getting this organized, but once the modeling begins, I'm afraid I'll be taking a backseat. Seeing that I've primarily done miniatures the past couple of years, some of this will be new territory for me. Which is great - I'm excited. Smile [:)]

BTW, you need to give yourself credit for seeing this idea through and taking the initiative to start this thread. Smile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 2, 2003 9:46 PM
B.R.

Don't get me wrong, I want everyone to contribute to this. I am in no way in charge of this. The credit should go to mkish, he started it with that challenge stuff. I was just a deer caught in the headlights (lol). You make valid points about seperating the threads for each CBP. My primary is concern is not bothering others around us. Maybe FSM will start a CBP thread. I like that idea. Maybe one of us can put a bug in someones ear over in FSM feedback.

Please post away!!! Your much better at it than me. I haven't even figured out how to link stuff in a topic yet, oh well

Darren
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 2, 2003 9:34 PM
The choice of the F-18C due to it's availability at Wal-Mart make sense - so does the price (can't beat it). I bet the majority of us will end up doing a C version. However, if it's not available the use of any variant is understandable and acceptable.

I setup the other threads betting on the possibility we'll get a forum dedicated to CBPs. If that occurs, we can get the CBP threads moved into the new forum. Then I think it will be okay. Smile [:)]

Another reason I started the other threads is that I was thinking once a CBP gets going, there could be a lot of discussion for each specific CBP. It would be nice to keep everything contained in it's own dedicated thread. Even with a handful of people, we'll generate a good number of posts for each CBP. Wink [;)] This would still be the primary for discussions about CBPs, criteria, tools, etc. And next time I'll let Darren start the CBP threads. Tongue [:P]Wink [;)]

I think we'll see more of the regulars come Monday - people going back to work and all.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 2, 2003 9:01 PM
Hello again,

The reason I picked the F-18C was that I see it at the local wally world ( walmart- a large inxepensive retail store for those that are not familar). I just assumed that if they had it then it should be pretty easy to find. I agree with everyone about doing any model F-18. I will try for the "c" model at Walmart though, it cost something like $10 Big Smile [:D].

I don't know if you guys will agree but , I think we should keep our posts for the CBP limited to this thread for now. As it stands people can now read about this topic in 4 different threads. That is fine for those of us participating but may get irritating to those not interested. Also, I don't want to spread us to thin. If we concentrate all our posts to one thread people may want to see what all the fuss is. Just look at upnorths post, it has taken on a life of its own. We may be able to draw more people in this way Wink [;)].

I'm surprised that more of the regular contributers haven't chimed in. Thats ok, I think we have a good cross section anyways.

Thats all
Darren
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Posted by dariencharlie on Sunday, February 2, 2003 7:59 PM
I would vote for allowing any variant, just for the potential of making it easier to come up with the kit. I can see advantages to both approaches, I think either way fits the spirit of the project.

I'll try to get to my hobby shop tomorrow also and see what is on hand. I'll aim for the F-18C and see if/what they have. One shop I know could tell me on the phone, another I think I would have to go there myself and peruse.
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Sunday, February 2, 2003 2:48 PM
Was wondering too about what F-18C to get... Maybe Bayonet Recon is right and we need to open it up to any F-18 in 1/48.. Will visit the model shop tomorrow, will see..

By the way, my wife thinks we're all sad people.. HAHAHA! (She's American, you know!). Life must go on...
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 2, 2003 1:33 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dariencharlie

On the F-18C, I'm not sure where I will get it yet, web or hobby shop, but I was using the web to research what is out there. The only 1/48 F-18C, specifically, I have see so far i a Revelle Monogram; is that the case? Not saying that is a problem, just looking for background on kit avaiability, to not spend time looking for any other option, if there is no other option.

Looks like that's the case so far. I posted what I could find in the CBP thread for the F-18. It looks like there's two kits from Revell Monogram. I haven't wandered through any of the local hobby stores yet.

I'm wondering if opening it up to any type of F-18 would provide us more options? Or would the differences between the different versions cause some confusion?
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 2, 2003 1:16 PM
I'm in for the Ferrari too. I like that we're mixing it up with different subjects! This is gonna be fun!

M.
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Posted by dariencharlie on Sunday, February 2, 2003 12:58 PM
I agree with everything that has been added since my last post. Hey, I even agree with my last post!

On the F-18C, I'm not sure where I will get it yet, web or hobby shop, but I was using the web to research what is out there. The only 1/48 F-18C, specifically, I have see so far i a Revelle Monogram; is that the case? Not saying that is a problem, just looking for background on kit avaiability, to not spend time looking for any other option, if there is no other option.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 2, 2003 12:55 PM
Darren, you're right about getting too far ahead of ourselves. We'll definitely do the F-18. I think we can still discuss the Ferrari project though.

The F-18 project will be a learning process as to how CBP's will work. So for everyone, please bear with us!! Smile [:)]

BTW - I'm sure some have noticed that I started two posts for each project. We can discuss kit choices and stuff there. For the Ferrari project, we can discuss which model and scale.

Community Build Project - 1/48 F-18C
Community Build Project - Ferrari

Hope you don't mind me jumping the gun and posting those - I'm sort of excited about this, if you can't tell. Wink [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 2, 2003 12:30 PM
Hi all,

I definitely think a break/debrief period between projects is a great idea. Time to discuss the build pros and cons will be needed. I too will vote for a Ferrari for the next project. What model? F-40, Testarossa, 308 etc...or is any model ok? I would like to caution everyone, myself included, about getting to far ahead of ourselves. If we schedule a CBP one right after another we may get burnt out soon. We can play it by ear.

A ship in the near future could be fun. The only one that I've done is Tamiya's 1/350 Enterprise. That would be a nice
change of pace. So much for not getting ahead of myself.

One question I do have. I set the start date for 2/7/03. I think we should not start building until friday. That way we are all on the same time frame. I think it would be fun to see the different levels of progress that everyone made over the 30 days. I'll be lucky if mine sees paint I think.Blush [:I] What do you guys think?

Its very encouraging to see the interest being shown about the CBP. I was surprised anyone else wanted to do this. We may have to deal with the same old kits that keep getting cranked out cookie cutter style. But this is a nice diversion to add some spice to our modeling life. Hey, I'm a poet and don't know it (LOL).

I have been inspired by recent discussions about how long it takes to build a model. In near record time (for me at least) I'm getting ready to paint my Tamiya 1/48 scale F4U-1D. Over the course of the last 3 weeks I've spent about 15-20 hours building it. I lost a week due to a broken part. Thankfully another forum member bailed me out and sent me a spare he had. (THANKS DAVID). I hope to have it done by the end of the week. Time for me to get painting.

Darren
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Sunday, February 2, 2003 11:07 AM
Yeah, I think we should allow 6 or 8 weeks between projects, leaving only 4 for the building, then 2-4 for posting pics, discussing things and get ready to start the next one... I'm all excited too, guys!

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 2, 2003 10:07 AM
No sprue cutters? I just bought one. Smile [:)]
...no problem though, lots of other sprues to cut with it. Wink [;)]

I agree with the others, Ferrari in March. Maybe I'll get my stepfather involved on that one. He's been a car nut and would probably enjoy it. He used to put together models a long time ago and I think he's been wanting to get back into it.

After that we need to do a tank or a ship. Smile [:)]

One additional thought. I know I've began to refer to these as Feb 2003, March 2003 - but I was thinking that implying that we would do one kit a month might be a bit much - especially if we're trying to get many people involved. So we should leave it open. Plus allow time between projects to debrief and go over techniques and compare notes like DJ suggested.

I'm excited about this!! Smile [:)]
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Posted by dariencharlie on Sunday, February 2, 2003 8:19 AM
Ok, as I understand its time for me to go look for that 1/48 F-18C kit!

Just a hint, and/or clarification ( not disagreement )... someone mentioned no decal setting solution, and I thought, o yeah, I would have grabbed for that without thinking about it. Now I am thinking, I guess this means no spru cutters also.

My point or hint is, get everything off your workbench except the allowable items or before we know it we will have all built like with whatever our normal routine is, sit back, slap our forheads and say, Oh no! I disqualified myself! ! :)

I'm trying to make this funny if it sounds extreme, except I am partly serious. I know I will need to get all items not on the tool list deliberately out of the way. ( not that this modeler uses much more than the list anyway at this point) But then I have one of those two signs of old age, forgetfulness and...and...what was the other...

O yes, a Ferrari in March sounds good to me.
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Sunday, February 2, 2003 2:33 AM
It might be worth advertising what the next kit to build would be, so that people in remote areas have time to look for it, or order it... I'd like to propose a Ferrari car for March... Up to the challenge, guys (and dolls)..?

Other than that, I think it could be a useful thing to debrief once the models are completed, just to compare notes on building, painting, problems and solutions...
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