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1/48 Mono-cademy P-40 B "Pearl Harbor" (FINISHED)..

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  • Member since
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  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, October 24, 2014 6:55 PM

Your Welcome Mike...

Joe

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Buckeye on Tuesday, October 21, 2014 11:28 AM

Thanks for the info!

Mike

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Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, October 20, 2014 9:46 PM

Thanks guys.  Mike, I use Lock-tite instant superglue in the blue bottle then accelerator.  For the P-40, its tricky.  The lines go from the wings to the tail with another going down the center.  I made a tensioner out of wire wrapped around a needle then threaded the line through it.  I drilled a tiny divot on top of the wing where the line could sit in.  Run the line to the tensioner, glue it, then cut it off with a sharp Exacto.

Joe

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Brunswick, Ohio
Posted by Buckeye on Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:27 AM

Another awesome build there!Yes

Can you give us a little info on how you installed the antennae wires?  They look great.

Mike

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:23 AM

Despite your problems Joe she looks beautiful!

I wish my good models looked half as great as your 'bad' ones! Wink

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Cameron, Texas
Posted by Texgunner on Wednesday, October 15, 2014 10:50 PM

lawdog114

 The raised panel lines don't really bother me.  Its all in the paint bro.......Wink

Joe

I hear ya brother, and feel the same way!Beer

Gary


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  • From: Phoenix, AZ
Posted by Fly-n-hi on Wednesday, October 15, 2014 10:44 PM

Another beauty!  Well done!

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  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, October 15, 2014 9:43 PM

Thanks miss,,,

Joe

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by mississippivol on Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:21 PM

Beautiful work!

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  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, October 11, 2014 9:23 PM

Thanks Tex.  Yes that would be great.  The Monogram kit is supposed to be the most accurate in outline.  I may try to get my hands on a circa '64 kit and have a run at it with a True Details cockpit.  The raised panel lines don't really bother me.  Its all in the paint bro.......Wink

Joe

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Cameron, Texas
Posted by Texgunner on Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:17 AM

She looks mighty good Joe!  But, that's what I've come to expect from the "Lawdog treatment"!Bow Down

Wouldn't it be nice if Revell would update the old Monogram P-40B kit?  They had the shape down pat and with some modernization, that would be the "go to" build for the P-40. 

Gary


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  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, October 10, 2014 11:55 PM

Thanks guys, Nathan, I have that same old book.  Should one do all that, I'd go with a mold as close to 1964 as possible, when they were new.  This latest incarnation of it is garbage.  Its Flimsy and tears under a scriber tool.   I was aware of the wing root issue but decided it wasn't worth messing with.  I know others have with success.  Having built all of them, all things considered, I think the best is the Trumpy kit with a resin pit.  I can live with the mad rivets.  

Britt, the rudder is indeed off from what I understand.  The whole kit is pretty much off.  Perhaps Academy should hit the reset button on this thing. .......LOL.  I realized the glass thickness after I drilled out the holes.  I should have just omitted them.  Maybe I'll hit the inside edges with a black sharpie to hid the thickness a bit.   The prop is bugging me so I'll probably chop it down more.

Nice score on those flaps.  I still have markings for Taylor's plane.  I may do that with the Trumpy kit since I still have two in the stash. 

The Hasegawa P-40 E in my stash might be next for therapy......that kit needs nothing....

Joe

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Greenville, TX.
Posted by Raymond G on Friday, October 10, 2014 11:24 PM

I dunno Joe, I think it looks pretty good.  It's just a bugger of a model all the way around and I think you're on the right track.  So, well done...  Raymond

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U.S.S. Arizona (Revell)

P-51D Tribute (Revell)

57 Chevy Bel Air

 

 

 

 

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Posted by bvallot on Friday, October 10, 2014 10:32 PM

Well Joe, I think Nate's right about the kit's flaws making it difficult here.  I think you made this a much nicer -B than it would ever turn out OOB.  I saw those radiator flaps in an earlier post and was wondering if they were kit or scratched (very nice job on those).  The prop may be just a hair to big...but again that's probably due to the kit's dimensions.  I think the rudder seems a bit off...too long...?  The thickness of the glass for the fuel/oil caps are too thick for kit glass parts.  It was the same with the Revellogram kit as well.  I think for the the -B I'm doing I'll scratch something thinner.  I thought I'd sand them down, but I'm sure I'd lose the "circle" shape in the process.

Everything else though looks quite nice.  Don't be too disappointed with it.  The undersurface looks fantastic.  That Revell belly works brilliantly! =D The flaps are a nice addition.  Oh YEAH. Funny story...I just remembered.  I saw a pair of Eduard PE flaps for the -B on Ebay but it was nonspecific for which one.  The printing looked somewhat old.  I was on the fence about them for about a week and then just bit the bullet. Pulled them out of the packaging as soon as I saw it in the mail....browsed the instructions...Damn thing was cut and made for the Revell/Monogram kit!! Couldn't believe it! =]   How 'bout that.  Nothing else out there is.  It's all Trumpeter.  Probably cause Trumpeter keeps Eduard in business so well for fixing their busted kits. lol.  (no offense of course to the proud Trumpy peeps out there)  The brass seemed to have a little petina going on but it looks like it'll work.  Anyhow, Still a solid build here Joe.  I love it and the story.  I've been brushing up on the details about these two and I'd been deciding which one I might pick.  I think I'll go with Lt. Taylor now.  ;)

Kudos!

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by Nathan T on Friday, October 10, 2014 9:58 PM

Job well done on this tough kit Joe. Decals and paint came out awesome. Can't go wrong with Starfighter decals. I used them on my Monogram Devastator and they are first rate. As far as the look of the finished model, its not you, its the kit and that weird wrong wing root fairing. Wrong shape and placed too low on the fuselage maybe.

I have this great how to Model the P-40 book, and the authors are pure professionals. To get the best "B" model, they rescribed the Monogram kit, did resin and pe in the cockpit and flaps, resin wheels and vac canopy, and it looks 100% spot on. If you're up for rescribing, I'd say that is the only answer to a good P-40B, C kit right now.

 

 

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  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, October 10, 2014 9:35 PM

Your probably right.  Its a 74-ish year old photograph.  I'll remember that for my next B.  This pig is no prize winner anyways.  

That said, I'm gonna go with done here. To recap, it's in the markings of 15th Pursuit Group 47th Fighter Squadron 2nd Lt. George Welch at Wheeler Field on December 7, 1941.  Welch and another pilot,  2nd Lt. Kenneth Taylor, both still clad in tuxedos from an event the previous evening, got airborne and scores kills on the invading Japanese.  Welch initially took off with only 30 cal ammo in the wing guns and claimed two Val dive bombers. After reloading, he got another Val and a Zero fighter.   Both men would be awarded the Distinguished flying Cross for their heroism.

Now onto the kit.  How much time do you got?....Tongue Tied  To sum it up, if your looking for something simplistic that resembles a P-40, its fine.  The best way to describe this kit is "generic", from the cockpit to the landing gear.  If you want a bit more, like a replica of the real Hawk 81, get ready for surgery or perhaps look elsewhere.  On this one, I grafted the Monogram belly onto the kit and made new radiator flaps out of styrene stock. I replaced the cockpit, wheels, wing guns and the flaps to spruce it up.  I also replaced the prop blades with those from the Hasegawa P-38.  Other additions were a bulletproof windscreen out of clear stock and I used a spare Eduard Sptifire tail wheel which is much better than the kit example.   I used Starfighter Decals which were some of the best I've ever used.    

On the finished model, I added smoke colored invisible thread radio wires to finish it off.  As I sat there looking at the finished model, something just didn't seem right.  It seems to me that either the landing gear is too compresed (short stance?) or the prop is too big in diameter.  I suppose thats the story of this build....Bang Head

On conclusion, any future Hawk 81 builds will be done with the Trumpeter kit, until the elusive state of the art kit is offered.    I'm sure we'll see another 109 first though...

 

 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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  • From: North Pole, Alaska
Posted by richs26 on Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:32 AM

I found the original photo in the Life magazine archives that showed the plexiglass having a blue tint to it.  It is really apparent with the canopy.  You can compare it with the one in the background which has no plexi mounted yet.

WIP:  Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 73rd BS B-26, 40-1408, torpedo bomber attempt on Ryujo

Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 22nd BG B-26, 7-Mile Drome, New Guinea

Minicraft 1/72 B-24D as LB-30, AL-613, "Tough Boy", 28th Composite Group

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Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, October 8, 2014 12:34 AM

Hey Rich, interstingly its your link that showed me the alcoves were supposed to be grey (below).  Scroll down about half way and you'll see a color pic of a B in the factory sporting what seems to be grey alcoves. At least they look grey to me, however, it could be just an old doctored photo. 

http://www.ratomodeling.com/articles/AVG_cammo/

Thanks for the info about the props.  I kind of figured so since they both screwed onto Allison motors. 

......and thanks Ray

Joe

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Raymond G on Tuesday, October 7, 2014 2:46 PM

Again, very impressive Joe!  Looks great.  Raymond

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U.S.S. Arizona (Revell)

P-51D Tribute (Revell)

57 Chevy Bel Air

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Cleveland, OH
Posted by RadMax8 on Tuesday, October 7, 2014 11:48 AM

Man you crank through your builds! Even tough ones. This is looking great, your paint and shading is outstanding.

So... What's next? The Trumpeter P-40 you picked up for cheap?

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  • From: North Pole, Alaska
Posted by richs26 on Tuesday, October 7, 2014 1:19 AM
I'm curious about the alcoves being Neutral Gray. After going through most of the Curtiss-Wright factory photos in the Life photo archives, I did not see one that had the NG as all the photos had OD 41 from the factory, so it might have been a specific squadron color I'm guessing. And you chose correctly for the P-38 prop as they used Curtiss Electric props also.

WIP:  Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 73rd BS B-26, 40-1408, torpedo bomber attempt on Ryujo

Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 22nd BG B-26, 7-Mile Drome, New Guinea

Minicraft 1/72 B-24D as LB-30, AL-613, "Tough Boy", 28th Composite Group

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Posted by BrandonK on Monday, October 6, 2014 10:12 PM

Man, she is really starting to come to life. I need to build mine, but alas, this is not the time.

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A lot !! And I mean A LOT!!

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Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, October 6, 2014 7:09 PM

Good question Britt.  I never actually researched it.  On my AVG P-40 I built last year I used the Cutting Edge cockpit.  The instructions recommended "Bronze Green" so I figured they knew what they were talking about.  I found a recipe somewhere on line at that time and this is how it turned out.  Perhaps your references are right...who knows.  I've also been told early P-40s were destined for England, so the pits were grey green, in the likes of a Spitfire or Hurricane.  I have since discovered through photographi evidence the concave alcoves behind the pilot and rear bulkhead should be neutral grey on early B planes.     I decided to leave it as is.  This isn't no award winner anyways.

Anyways, last night I got it decaled.  I went wiith Welch's "160" machine. These were some of the best decals I've ever worked  with.   No issues whatsoever.  I was worried about the "160" but they snuggles right down under Micro Sol. 

As I said, the prop blades with this kit are comical.  They are flat and mishaped, so I raided my spare parts box for replacements.  I found some left over P-38 props which looked close.  Not too bad eh?  Probably not correct, but acceptable for a Frankestein.   I also drilled out the exhaust stubs. 

Flory wash soon.  This one shouldn't be much longer.  Did I mention I found the Trumpy kit on Ebay cheap?  

Joe 

 

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Timdude on Monday, October 6, 2014 5:33 PM

The ammo is loaded in from the bottom. They are the long skinny rectangles next to the shell ejection ports.

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Posted by bvallot on Monday, October 6, 2014 5:13 PM

I've got another one for you Joe.  I'm looking through cockpit stuff again for that other P-40B...I recall you mentioning that the cockpit was Bronze Green for those Hawks.  I've got a book that I've been using to reference everything with that tells it as Curtiss Green still for those in Pearl Harbor.  They call it resembling a Zinc Chromate color.

So which is more correct?  Was there a time where one was used, discontinued, then a new color selected? What do your sources say?

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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  • From: Greenville, TX.
Posted by Raymond G on Friday, October 3, 2014 2:40 AM

Looking good Joe!  I've very impressed.  I don't think we're talking Frankenstein here, rather his bride!  Keep up the good work, Raymond

On the Bench:

U.S.S. Arizona (Revell)

P-51D Tribute (Revell)

57 Chevy Bel Air

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, October 2, 2014 10:44 PM

Thanks Britt.  The prop blades are simplified and shaped wrong.  I'm going to steal three from the spare parts box that were from the Hasegawa P-38.  Hopefully they will just drop right in.

Joe

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by bvallot on Thursday, October 2, 2014 3:43 PM

Looking pretty sharp!!   =]  How are the props fitting in the spinner?  Will they just drop in?

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Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, October 1, 2014 11:15 PM

I sat down and got some quailty bench time in last night.  I fixed a few things here and there, to include cleaning up the leading edge wing roots which were a mess.  I added some semi-circular-shaped styrene stock and poked rivets in them with a sewing needle to leave the illusion they're supposed to be there.  Probably not "correct" but it worked and looks passible to me.  Here's the area primered and ready for paint. It's starting to look like a Hawk 81...

I preshaded all panel lines XF-1 Flat Black.  I then sprayed the inner flaps, wheel wells and gear bays XF-4 Yellow Green, the perfect zinc chromate.  After these were taped off, the bottom got XF-53 Neutral Grey.  This was then cut with XF-2 Flat White and condensation streaks were added.  I then added more XF-2 and lightened the control sufaces.  After a post shade of diluted XF-69 and XF-64, here's where I'm at.  Perhaps it could use more... 

She was flipped over and Blue Tac was used to mask off the demarcation lines thusly...

Since the Academy P-40 is so lacking in the detail department, I needed to be creative with the paint.  started off with straight Gunze Aqueous Olive Drab 1.  This is the perfect USAAC drab to my eye.  Nice and brown.  Too bad its so hard to get nowdays.

Xf-57 Buff was added and condensation streaks were added.  More XF-57 was added for the control surfaces.  I then added the postshade to highlight the areas that were detailed, such as the engine area and control surfaces.  I also added some minor exhaust streaks with diluted XF-1 then XF-53 over it to simulate heat. 

I will add some minor chipping here and there, especially at the wing root, then a gloss coat.

Joe

      

   

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