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Hasegawa F-4E Phantom II
Posted by SargeUSMC on Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:57 PM

1:72......My 1st Hasegawa build.......fuselage together, in putty. Photos coming.

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Sunday, December 14, 2014 10:07 AM

shaping up....

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Sunday, December 14, 2014 5:27 PM

Well this ain't good.......with the port side of the wing sub assy lined up, the starboard side is WAY OFF. If I buzz off all that extra material the undercarriage won't look right......

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Sunday, December 14, 2014 5:28 PM

And I had to scribe a missing line for the port underside forward flap...

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Posted by mississippivol on Sunday, December 14, 2014 6:27 PM

If the underside of the fuselage is hollow, you might can put a length of sprue across the back like a spreader bar to make that side fit closer.

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Sunday, December 14, 2014 7:15 PM

 I'm learning all kinds of stuff from you guys around here.....

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Sunday, December 14, 2014 7:20 PM

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Posted by jelliott523 on Monday, December 15, 2014 1:04 PM

SargeUSMC, you will learn all kinds of useful tricks from these wonderful folks here.  That "spreader" sprue trick has saved my bacon a couple of times.  As has using thin strips of those advertisement credit cards you get in the mail.  They work great to fill small gaps or to build up areas.

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Posted by patrick206 on Monday, December 15, 2014 1:22 PM

Hey, Sarge -

Good fix with the spreader bar, nice of 'Sippi to pass it along, typical of the knowledge and kindness the members are so willing to share. Question for you, Sarge, what is the red filler material you use??? Thanks in advance.

Patrick

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Posted by jelliott523 on Monday, December 15, 2014 1:25 PM

Patrick, to me that red looks like Bondo Red glazing compound that you can pick up at most auto parts supply stores.  I've used it myself a few times.  It stays workable for quite awhile and didn't tend to harden as fast as stuff like squadron putty or Tamiya putty.  I could be wrong but that is what it looks like to me.

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Posted by TarnShip on Monday, December 15, 2014 1:49 PM

Another way to fix that gap besides the "Revell always needs it spreader bar" is to shave just a touch off the wing mating edge on the outside of the undersurface wing half, you could cut the locating pins off too, if you need it. This lets the top half of the wing slide inwards a bit.

I see that it is too late for that idea, but, judging from the picture, you may want to consider doing both on any future build, since you look like you might end up with a slight gap after doing the spreader bar deal,,,,,after you stop the spreading even with the bottom fuselage part.

Nice to see another glazing putty user, I still use it because it shows up so nice while working, and the primer I use covers right over it in one coat, anyway.

Rex

almost gone

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Monday, December 15, 2014 1:55 PM

I haven't glued the wings on yet. I was gonna fill the gaps between the fuselage and the wings. I've used the white putty but i prefer the red.

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Posted by echolmberg on Monday, December 15, 2014 2:36 PM

Hi Sarge! I hope your "E" is coming along just fine.  I built the Hasegawa "J" version a couple of years back and really had a good time with it.  

I just thought I'd pass along my 2 cents on the topic of filler especially along the spine.  I always like to lay down a couple of pieces of masking tape along the spine, one on either side and pretty close together.  That way, after I apply the putty and smooth it down, I can then quickly remove the tape.  What I'm left with is a nice and neat narrow line of putty along the top.  Sanding is cut to the bare minimum as is any detail loss along the top.  That was another handy dandy tip I learned from the good folks here on the FSM forum.

Otherwise, I can't wait to see your plane when it's all finished!  I'm not much of a jet fan but I do loves me the F-4!  That beast just SCREAMS out "fighter" even when standing still.

Eric

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Monday, December 15, 2014 2:44 PM

That's another good tip to remember....thanks! I'll try that with the wing/fuselage gap once I get the thing glued in there. I'm not too worried about panel details tho.....I may try some scribing on the 1:48, but the 1:72 is so small......we shall see.

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Posted by Straycat1911 on Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:20 PM

Sarge, be careful of the pitot tubes on the tail fin and the fuel dump under the rudder. I've built a few of those 1:72 Hasegawa Phantoms and damned if I haven't broke one or the other off every time.

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Posted by TarnShip on Thursday, December 18, 2014 5:38 AM

I read a review of a Phantom model the other day, and the guy said that if someone like Quickboost would release 1/72 Fuel Dumps that they wouldn't be able to keep them in stock.

I was nodding my head as I read that, and had the same reaction to Straycat's post.

One thing that helps as of now,,,,,,,take those parts off yourself, before they go "PINGGG" into the parts warp, then you can just add them back later, at the end of the build. It sounds "wrong", but, at least you are in control when (not if) one of them comes off.

Rex

almost gone

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:05 AM

Sure, now you tell me.......heheheheh........I'm being more cognizant of the fuel dump but I'll be making a new pitoh tube.....

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Friday, December 19, 2014 7:46 PM

Ugh.....why can't I delete a bad post.....see below

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Friday, December 19, 2014 7:48 PM

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Saturday, December 20, 2014 3:07 PM

More putty work.....

Do I have a good angle on the stabilizer fins??

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Posted by Nathan T on Sunday, December 21, 2014 12:22 AM

Yes. Although the pic isn't a straight on shot, but it's close enough on my screen

 

 

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Sunday, December 21, 2014 7:48 AM

roger that. ty

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Sunday, December 21, 2014 11:38 AM

Putty up to my neck here......going slow...taking my time.....do the stabilizer fins rotate fore and aft or are they fixed.....

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Posted by Nathan T on Sunday, December 21, 2014 1:11 PM

They rotate. There should be a tiny gap in between them and the fuselage. If you plan on posing them other than neutral, technically you'd have to have the u shaped pivot cover posed at the same angle also, which is hard to do cause Hasegawa molds this piece with the fuselage on both the 48 and 72 scale kit.

 

 

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Sunday, December 21, 2014 7:51 PM

That was a good tip, Eric. I used it on the wing roots of my A-7 build...haven't sanded it yet, but I ripped the tape off and it's a nice, clean straight joint to process.......thanks.

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:43 PM

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:44 PM

Wings & intakes.......

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Posted by Rob S. on Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:58 PM

Looks good Sarge...I just finished my first Phantom as well. I did it for the Vietnam Group Build running right now.

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Posted by SargeUSMC on Tuesday, December 23, 2014 5:16 PM

gimme the link to some pictures!! I just realized this thing has Air Force decals! I'll have to get some Navy or Marine decals from somewhere!  ; )

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Posted by rangerj on Tuesday, December 23, 2014 7:55 PM

Note: Glazing or filler putties for automotive use can usually be thinned with lacquer thinner and brushed on to fill a seam. The Bondo brand can be found in auto parts stores as well as retail stores in the automotive department. 3M makes an acrylic glazing putty that is also easy to use and it sands easily and it takes primer well. The problem with the 3 M brand is that it comes in a large tube and an average modeler could not use it in a lifetime. Sarge, did the Navy or Marines fly F4 echos. I know the Marines flew RF 4 Es, but I have never seen an F4E in Navy or Marine markings.  

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