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Hasegawa 1/48 Macchi c.202 Folgore WIP

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Hasegawa 1/48 Macchi c.202 Folgore WIP
Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, March 10, 2017 2:41 PM
I started the 1/48 Hasegawa Macchi c.202 the other day for the Thunderbolt GB. Folgore, meaning Thunderbolt.
The c.202 was developed from its radial engine father the c.200. At the time the most powerful Italian inline engine was the 960 Hp Isotta Fraschini Asso XI so it was decided to incorporate the Daimler-Benz DB 601 engine, which was later built under license by Alfa Romeo.
This markedly improved the airframes performance and it was clear Macchi had an advanced design on their hands.
The c.202’s weakness was its light armament of two 12.7 mm machine guns in the cowl and two 7.7 mm machine guns in the wings. It wasn’t until the c.205 that underwing cannons were installed making the “Veltro” a much more potent platform.
I love Italian aircraft. Their lines are beautiful and well as their camo schemes IMO. I will be building out of the box with the exception of the Eduard flap detail set and painting the box camo, mainly because I don’t want to try the smoke ring camo or purchase the decal set, which I understand is very nice.
Anyway here is where I’m at for the moment.
 
 
 
The pit is complete. I added some detail such as tape for the belts, and added some holes into the seat.
  
 
 
The fuse glued together.
 
 
 
The port wing flap PE.
 
 
should have more completed by this weekend
Steve
 

ON THE BENCH

1/350 Dragon USS The Sulivans built as USS Johnston
1/48 Hasegawa C.202 Folgore
1/350 Aoshima IJN Takao

In Que

1/32 Hasegawa Mk Vb Spitfire
1/72 Hasegawa B5N2 Kate
1/48 Tamiya Mk1 Swordfish

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Posted by M. Brindos on Friday, March 10, 2017 2:58 PM

Watching!  :)

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, March 10, 2017 3:05 PM

Thanks Mike.

ON THE BENCH

1/350 Dragon USS The Sulivans built as USS Johnston
1/48 Hasegawa C.202 Folgore
1/350 Aoshima IJN Takao

In Que

1/32 Hasegawa Mk Vb Spitfire
1/72 Hasegawa B5N2 Kate
1/48 Tamiya Mk1 Swordfish

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Friday, March 10, 2017 4:09 PM

I love this kit.  Can't wait to see the end result!

MM

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At the plate: 1/48 Dragon Ho 229

On deck: Hobby Boss 1/48 Bv-141/B

In the hole: 1/48 Eduard Yak-3

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, March 10, 2017 4:39 PM

I was just eyeballing this kit in my stash the other day. I will be filling this build. 

Just curious, but what green are you using for the cockpit interior color? Are you following the instruction sheet mix, or do you have a good recommendation for an off the shelf (and hopefully not Vallejo)?

 

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Posted by BrandonK on Friday, March 10, 2017 4:46 PM

Been wanting to do one of these. I'll watching this one for sure.

BK

On the bench:  1/48 Hasegawa P-40E--Flying Tiger (60%+ done)

1/48 Monogram P-40B--Early Pearl Harbor (60% done)

On deck: 1/48 Tamiya Bristol Beaufighter, Night fighter

2x Monogram 1/48 Kingfishers with cockpits and floats, full kit overhauls each

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Posted by Bossman on Friday, March 10, 2017 4:50 PM

Verily . . .     the Ferrari of WWII aircraft.

Looks great so far MC.

Chris

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, March 10, 2017 7:08 PM

Thanks guys, 

Stick. I used MM enamel pale green FS34227, what is called out in the instructions. I need to get RLM 78, 79, and 80.

The entire underside of the wing including the wheel wells, struts and flap interior is RLM 78. The only part that is pale green is the pit.

ON THE BENCH

1/350 Dragon USS The Sulivans built as USS Johnston
1/48 Hasegawa C.202 Folgore
1/350 Aoshima IJN Takao

In Que

1/32 Hasegawa Mk Vb Spitfire
1/72 Hasegawa B5N2 Kate
1/48 Tamiya Mk1 Swordfish

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, March 10, 2017 9:57 PM

Copy that on the cockpit color. You're not going to use Italian colors for the exterior?  

 

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U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by fermis on Friday, March 10, 2017 10:12 PM

modelcrazy
 
 
 

YUMMY!!!!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, March 10, 2017 11:19 PM

stikpusher

Copy that on the cockpit color. You're not going to use Italian colors for the exterior?  

 

According to the instructions those 3 RLM colors were used, but I will do some research on that.

ON THE BENCH

1/350 Dragon USS The Sulivans built as USS Johnston
1/48 Hasegawa C.202 Folgore
1/350 Aoshima IJN Takao

In Que

1/32 Hasegawa Mk Vb Spitfire
1/72 Hasegawa B5N2 Kate
1/48 Tamiya Mk1 Swordfish

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:28 AM
Stick,
Doing some research from the Stormo color guide,
this is what I found.
Grigio Azzumo Chiaro 1 (Light Blue Grey 1) or FS 36307 Light Sea Grey for the gray underwing
Nocciola Chiaro 4 (Light Hazel 4) or FS 30219 Dark Tan
Verde Oliva Scuro 2 (Dark Olive Green 2) or 34052 for the green
Most of these colors I have and what I don’t will be easy to find.
Thanks for challenging me to look further 

ON THE BENCH

1/350 Dragon USS The Sulivans built as USS Johnston
1/48 Hasegawa C.202 Folgore
1/350 Aoshima IJN Takao

In Que

1/32 Hasegawa Mk Vb Spitfire
1/72 Hasegawa B5N2 Kate
1/48 Tamiya Mk1 Swordfish

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:19 AM

You're welcome. I knew that they used something like two or three different sand shades- a couple more yellow, and the hazelnut shade. As well as a few different greens. I'm not too keen on instruction sheets for color call outs in many cases. 

Are you going to do a "smoke ring" camo scheme? 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, March 11, 2017 2:01 AM

Yeah, the Stormo site has a wealth of info. I forgot about it.

As far as the camo, no I’m going with the box art. The “Macchie Verde su fondo Nocciola” scheme, or literally translated “Green spots on the bottom Hazel

I was planning on the smoke ring originally but I didn’t want to try my airbrush capabilities or purchase the decal sheet. I did think of trying the method in the new issue of FSM by using Bob Dively liquid mask but not this time. I would like to get a c.205 and do the smoke ring pattern on that kit.

 
 

ON THE BENCH

1/350 Dragon USS The Sulivans built as USS Johnston
1/48 Hasegawa C.202 Folgore
1/350 Aoshima IJN Takao

In Que

1/32 Hasegawa Mk Vb Spitfire
1/72 Hasegawa B5N2 Kate
1/48 Tamiya Mk1 Swordfish

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, March 11, 2017 3:50 PM

Yes I had forgotten about the Stormo site as well. Thanks for posting the link and reminding me about them. I now have it saved.

looking forward to your next progress.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by bvallot on Saturday, March 11, 2017 11:19 PM

Very cool Steve! Looking forward to your build. =]

On the bench:  

Tamiya P-51D-conversion: F6-D William Shomo

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:08 AM
Thanks Brit,
I installed the wings, stabilizers and cowl pieces today. Everything fit as you would expect from a Hase kit although the upper cowl did fit a little off. If I just placed it in its opening, then the middle would have been lower than the rest of the cowl. I had to glue the front and the sides first then the rear when those dried.
I applied Mr. Dissolved Putty to the seams and will smooth them out after it dries.

ON THE BENCH

1/350 Dragon USS The Sulivans built as USS Johnston
1/48 Hasegawa C.202 Folgore
1/350 Aoshima IJN Takao

In Que

1/32 Hasegawa Mk Vb Spitfire
1/72 Hasegawa B5N2 Kate
1/48 Tamiya Mk1 Swordfish

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    July, 2004
  • From: Sunny So. Cal... The OC
Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, March 12, 2017 1:32 AM

Test fit and troubleshoot... good job!

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Sunday, March 12, 2017 5:10 AM
Nice save on the cowl

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, March 13, 2017 8:36 AM

Thnks guys,

I have some figures I wanted to add to the Macchi dio.

ON THE BENCH

1/350 Dragon USS The Sulivans built as USS Johnston
1/48 Hasegawa C.202 Folgore
1/350 Aoshima IJN Takao

In Que

1/32 Hasegawa Mk Vb Spitfire
1/72 Hasegawa B5N2 Kate
1/48 Tamiya Mk1 Swordfish

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Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, March 13, 2017 11:11 PM

Oh! Now it gets even more interesting.  :)

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, March 14, 2017 9:29 AM

LOL Thanks Mike. I really stink a figures, but I keep trying. I colud use some pointers.

ON THE BENCH

1/350 Dragon USS The Sulivans built as USS Johnston
1/48 Hasegawa C.202 Folgore
1/350 Aoshima IJN Takao

In Que

1/32 Hasegawa Mk Vb Spitfire
1/72 Hasegawa B5N2 Kate
1/48 Tamiya Mk1 Swordfish

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  • From: Lacey, WA.
Posted by M. Brindos on Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:12 PM

I've got a lot of pointers, but I'll start with a couple that should help you out.  :)

Faces; choose a medium skin tone, wash with a brown tone mixed with the base color and a very tiny bit of red.

Highlight with the base color mixed with white. 

Remember that shadows are easier to paint if you turn the figure upside-down. Bottom of the chin, nose, and eyebrows.

Highlights go under the eyes, bridge of the nose, upper lip, and the chin.

To finish it off add a little rose to the cheeks and add dots for the eyes with a 0.05 artist's pen. (Dotting the eyes) can also be done with a fine point pencil for scale effect.

For the clothing you can use the same processes mentioned above, but you can get away with dry brushing the highlights after a wash.

The secret is actually just getting the blocking clean. 

But for best results, always wash with a similar color to the base color (Yellow vest- orangeish yellow wash). An overall black wash on your figures will make them look dirty, especially in the smaller scales.

Of that advice, use what you want. There is more than one way to paint a figure and I encourage you to find out what works best for your style.  :)

Now, I can't wait to see how you do.  :D

- Mike Brindos

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, March 14, 2017 8:01 PM
Thanks Mike! I will certainly do that. I'm excited to see how they turn out. Seems I have been doing it wrong with my previous figures.
I went over some of the seams with another thin coat of Mt Dissolved Putty so the 202 should be ready for the gears soon.

ON THE BENCH

1/350 Dragon USS The Sulivans built as USS Johnston
1/48 Hasegawa C.202 Folgore
1/350 Aoshima IJN Takao

In Que

1/32 Hasegawa Mk Vb Spitfire
1/72 Hasegawa B5N2 Kate
1/48 Tamiya Mk1 Swordfish

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    January, 2015
  • From: Lacey, WA.
Posted by M. Brindos on Tuesday, March 14, 2017 8:35 PM

I'm excited too. Just treat your figures like any other part of the build and you should do just fine.

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, March 15, 2017 1:15 AM
Looking great

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, March 15, 2017 8:09 AM

Looks great Steve, really impressed with the flap detail you added too. 

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Posted by BrandonD on Friday, March 17, 2017 5:35 PM

Great work so far. I need to get to work on one of these sometime. Can't wait to see the finish.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, March 17, 2017 9:22 PM
Thanks guys.
A short update on the 202 and figures. I finished the filling and added the gear. I also started painting the figures with the base colors but I need to find out what color the parachute and life vests were in the Regia Aeronautica.
Mike I have a question on hair. What color do you typically use for hair color?

ON THE BENCH

1/350 Dragon USS The Sulivans built as USS Johnston
1/48 Hasegawa C.202 Folgore
1/350 Aoshima IJN Takao

In Que

1/32 Hasegawa Mk Vb Spitfire
1/72 Hasegawa B5N2 Kate
1/48 Tamiya Mk1 Swordfish

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    July, 2004
  • From: Sunny So. Cal... The OC
Posted by stikpusher on Friday, March 17, 2017 10:33 PM

Taking shape fast!

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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