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[Yet Another] Tamiya 1:48 F4U-1A WIP

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Wednesday, December 5, 2018 10:12 AM

ta da!

I've got it mostly back together. Following lawdog's sensible advice, I added a bit of styrene strip as a flange to give more surface area to the joint. 

The snapped off forward antenna still isn't on—I'll probably recreate with brass rod, as that's a pretty fragile and exposed item, and it's a bit too thin to get a pin in. Below the cowel, you can see one of the brake lines that fell off. 

cheers

-J

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Tuesday, December 4, 2018 3:32 PM

Thanks!

I think you've warned about that before, and I thought "I should really deal with that" but then didn't. Lesson learned!

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Posted by lawdog114 on Tuesday, December 4, 2018 3:27 PM

Yep...lousy design by Tamiya with that weak joint. I ended up reinforcing the inside surface with sheet styrene to give me something to glue too. A lip if you will. They did the same thing on their 1/32 kit too.

 

That’s looking great Johnny...

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Tuesday, December 4, 2018 2:36 PM

Yikes! That does sound much worse. 

Yes, this is completely repairable. I'm just at that place where I really want to be done and on to the next thing. 

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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Tuesday, December 4, 2018 1:35 PM

Oops. Could have been worse. Had a 1/32 Mk VI Spitfire once. Nearly completed and I was holding it by the wingtip (idiot!) when it snapped of. Very broken Spit whilst I was left holding a wingtip! This looks rather more repairable

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

Chris

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Tuesday, December 4, 2018 1:02 PM

Oops. 

Two steps forward... 

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Saturday, November 10, 2018 11:07 AM

Thanks lawdog! I’m def happy I took the time with that bit.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, November 10, 2018 2:43 AM
Beautiful....Love the bomb rack detail..

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Friday, November 9, 2018 2:04 PM

Thanks Scott! That's very nice to hear indeed. 

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Posted by scottrc on Friday, November 9, 2018 8:13 AM

I was impressed with you Wildcat, but with this build, you had really raised the bar.

 

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Wednesday, November 7, 2018 10:47 AM

Thanks Mark! That's very kind of you to say. 

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Posted by MrStecks on Wednesday, November 7, 2018 10:24 AM

What a beautiful job you've done with this build.  I'm in awe.  Your attention to detail goes above and beyond.  Bow Down

Cheers,
Mark


On the bench:  Revel 1/48 B-25J Mitchell

In the queue: Tamiya 1/48 F4U-1A Corsair

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:48 AM

Thanks guys!

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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Wednesday, November 7, 2018 3:08 AM

Nearly there! It's a fabulous model

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

Chris

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Posted by Ole on Tuesday, November 6, 2018 4:54 PM

That's an amazing amount of details!

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Tuesday, November 6, 2018 4:45 PM

Bench time has been even more sporadic than usual, so not much procedure this time. I am getting close though.

Re-did the bomb rack support bars with the next size down (.8mm) brass tube. Looks much more the part.

Re-profiled the bomb, which was a bit too round, and then used the PE fins from the Eduard set and added mounting lugs.

Odds and ends... identification lights. Punched holes in Tamiya tape with a MicroMark punch set, then sprayed Tamiya transparent red, green, and orange, followed by a few coats of Aqua Gloss. 

Landing gear on! Bomb and rack on! It's looking kind of like an airplane.

Need to dirty up that propeller a bit.

I tried to do the gun port tape with painted decal stock, but couldn't get it to work. This is Tamiya tape painted a light grey.

That cockpit is looking a little clean. Need to think about how to address that. Also need to get some better oil/fuel staining around the fuel cover.

Yikes! Got to fix that nick on the upper left corner of the vertical stablizer.

The wheel wells are filthy. 

 

Need to take care of some other odds and ends, but I should be about done soon... The year anniversary of starting this build was Oct 15. 

Thanks for looking. I'd welcome any feedback/critique as I try to land this pup. 

-J

 

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Tuesday, October 9, 2018 3:55 PM

The mighty bomb rack!

Tamiya molds the Brewster bomb rack as a single part, with big solid chunks that you embed into the bomb. I’m sure it’s very sturdy. 

However, it’s not very representational. The rack should feel spindly and crude. There’s a misconception that these were produced in the field by the ground crew, but that’s not the case—they were designed and built by Brewster, who were not exactly known for elegant design (the F2A Buffalo?).

I’m going to cut away the bomb holding chunks and replace with brass tubing.

 

We need to get a 1mm tube to bend tightly without crimping too much. The first step is to anneal by heating and gradually allowing to cool. 

Next, we need something inside the tube (this is called a mandrel in tube bending circles). 0.7mm lead wire will do, plus it’s easy to drill out after the bend. Rolling with the  flat end of tweezers gets it straight.

(Bad focus job here, but hey! Someone got a new cutting mat…)

 

The moment of truth. In the argot of pipe bending, a nail in a piece of scrap 2x4 is our bend die. A pair of 123 blocks are our compression die. You can see the lead wire mandril sticking out of the bent end.

The 123 (1” x 2” x 3”) are nice because they’re heavy and perfectly straight (more or less). I got them for my experiments in machining, but they come in handy for all kinds of things. 

 

To cut, roll on a smooth surface with a sharp knife. Because I have an odd shape, I have it hanging off the end of my bench.

I’m attempting the mounting holes seen in the reference pic. After locating the spot with a pin, drilled out in a drill press with carbide bits. You could probably do it with a hand tool, but this was quick and somewhat precise. 

And the bars mounted. These are a lot better than the stock rack, but looking at it here, they’re definitely over-scale. Bother. Not sure if I’m going to redo with a slightly smaller diameter tube, though now I have the procedure down, it shouldn’t be that big of a deal.

I also added a few details to the main mounting part, including the fuse looking thing and rivets. These were done with Archer resin rivets. After getting a coat of primer on, the carrier film was a bit bunched here and there, so I scraped off and re-did with a beading tool. 

The overscale diameter is bugging me... Will probably go back with the next size down.

Next time: the bomb

Thanks for looking!

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Friday, September 21, 2018 12:25 PM

Thanks Chris, Joe, and Mike!

Coming from the three of you, especially, means a lot. You've each taught me so much in your own work.

Cheers

-J

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Posted by 1943Mike on Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:43 PM

What ChrisJH666 said +1.

Mike

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Hector Berlioz

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Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, September 20, 2018 4:36 PM
Looking great!

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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Thursday, September 20, 2018 2:59 PM

Love that weathered finish! The problem is now you've set such a high benchmark how are us mere mortals ever going to build one of these again? Lol Bow Down

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Thursday, September 20, 2018 11:04 AM

Okay, so that was not a fruitful rabbit hole. I’ll spare you the shenanigans, but I finally decided life is short and I kind of want to finish this build before I hit it’s year anniversary in mid-October. I’ve also been traveling a lot for work lately, which makes bench time even more sporadic, so I’ll have to master the fine art of scratch building fabric control surfaces another time.  

I got another copy of the kit and started over with the rudder and elevators. Now that I had more clarity around how to approach this, cleaning these up was pretty painless. Reworking the tab actuators was also straightforward. For the small ones (left top and right bottom) I used PE from the Eduard set. For the large ones (rudder, top right and left bottom) I used thin copper wire with CA to build up the ‘elbow’ and section of the arm that goes into the tab. 

I've got to clean up the bit of 'stair stepping' around the BuNo decal stencil. It's a DIY decal, and is a bit thick. The font is also a bit heavy weight, so I'll probably scrape off and redo.

Oil paint weathering.  I need to get the cockpit area a little filthier to match the rest of the airframe.

Windsor and Newton artist color titanium white with a little mineral spirits to further fade. A little grey and burnt ochre for grime and dirt.

The exhaust stains are interesting. The cooling panel directly aft of the exhausts folds out, creating a little ridge that blocks most of the fuselage, cutting the stain sharply.

The above reference has a lot of grime accumulating on the underside fuselage aft of the window. I may build up a bit more there. I did build up some general filth and spatters. The shell casing ports got a bit of diffuse darkening, which better matches what examples I’ve been able to find than clear streaks. The actual gun ports are going to get ‘taped’ over.

The only real construction project on this left is the bomb and rack. Will be working on that next and then it's on to final touches

Thanks for looking!

 

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Friday, August 3, 2018 5:04 PM

I'm committed to my rabbits. Either that, or my rabbits are going to get me committed...

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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Friday, August 3, 2018 4:56 PM

Hmmm. Lot of rabbits down that hole!!

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

Chris

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Friday, August 3, 2018 4:52 PM

Rudder on with trim tab, PE actuator (via Eduard), scratch built fairing from .020" rod, and rescribed panel. Also added copper wire for the long trim tab actuators on the elevators, which I had to cut when I removed from the horizontal stablizers. 

Looks okay. But after staring at reference photos for hours, neither the rudders nor elevators look quite right. 

It's hard to see with the black primer, but the ribs look a lot like the molded kit ribs, but not so much like a real Corsair, where they're super thin:

I'm thinking the ribs might be better represented with bits of wire faired in with CA. 

(The problem with references is you can't unsee this stuff.)

Also, the elevators don't quite line up. It's not noticable except from below, but as long as I'm messing with them, the molded actuators are bugging me. On the prototype, they have a really distinctive angle shape:

I rekon fixing the rudder (again) and elevators will make for a fun weekend activity...

Cheers

-J

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Tuesday, July 31, 2018 4:20 PM

Before we move on, it’s a quick trip back into the rabbit hole! 

Somehow the rudder antenna mast broke off. Rather than craft a new one from styrene (which will just break off again), I decided to machine one from brass (I’m learning how to use a micro lathe, so am always looking for opportunities to play). 

First I turned to the diameter, then filed to shape. (I’m not very proficient with the lathe, so this took a few tries.)

I drilled a hole and CA’d in. Black rubber infused CA from Bob Smith to fair over. This will continue to get refined.

 

But after all this messing about with the rudder, I’ve lost pretty much all the ribbing detail, and the trim tab actuator is a bit mushy.

Silhouette to the rescue! Kind of. I traced a blue print of the rudder in Illustrator. 

 

I didn’t want to blow through too much styrene messing about, so cut .015 evergreen sheet bit shallow, but then was able to use the Silhouette cut lines as a guide to cut out with a knife. 

I filed the rudder part smooth, and then glued on the ribbing with Tamiya Extra Thin. Here we are starting to shape the new detail. This got further refined, along with fixing some of the soft lines in the profile (under the lip in front, above the trim tab, and there’s a flat spot behind the mast. 

That’s alls I got. I’m really looking forward to moving on to proper weathering, so hopefully will not let myself get too distracted with these tangents. (There is that bomb rack…) 

Thanks for looking!

 

-J

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Wednesday, July 4, 2018 1:35 PM

Ha! I didn't mean to ressurect the Great Panel Line Debate...

My approach here is more about variation, texture, and visual storytelling than highlighting panel lines, per se. But, as a rule, filthy airplanes have more contrasty panel lines than non-filthy ones, and it doesn't get much filthier than an island based aircraft in the PTO. They just shouldn't be filled in uniformly across the whole airframe. 

Happy independence day for the folks in the US! 

-J

 

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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Tuesday, July 3, 2018 2:47 PM

Looking great. I agree with you about those panel lines. There are too many really great models which, in my opinion, are spoiled by being covered with black panel lines. In reality most panel lines are barely visible from any kind of distance

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, July 2, 2018 9:53 PM

The latest models of Silhouette cutters can also cut plastic sheet.

John

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Monday, July 2, 2018 5:42 PM

I got a little work in the other morning, so a quick update.  

The main struts, now with break lines, covers, and a dirty wash (Black Tamiya Panel Line Accent FTW). I also got the masks on the covers, cut with the Silhouette. 

Quickboost resin wheels. The rubber is approx 90% XF-1 to XF-2, followed with a light mist of Buff with a little black added. The treads then got Dark Brown Tamiya Panel Line Accent. The hubs get black TPLA. 

Starting to detail the panels on the wings: black for active panels (moving panels such as ailerons, or gun access covers) and a mix of dark brown and grey for passive joins. I’m trying to avoid the uniform, all over panel line effect. 

I’m almost ready to get a flat coat down, and then will start in with oils for more fading (esp the insignia, which are looking a bit hysterical at the moment) and grime. 

Thanks for looking!

-J

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Sunday, July 1, 2018 5:11 PM

Thanks guys. That really is nice of you to say. I feel like if I had more actual skill, I'd have to do a lot less sanding and filling. This is a Tamiya kit, after all... next time I'm going to try not to get quite so silly with details, and focus more on fundamentals. 

1943Mike

That Silhouette Portrait cutting machine looks interesting. Were I to buy one would you recommend my getting just the machine or the machine plus the starter package?

I just got the basic machine, an extra mat and a couple extra blades from Amazon. The rest of that package are things like inks for using it as a plotter (which might be cool, but not sure the utility for scale model building).

For vinyl, I got Oramask 810 from https://anteupgraphicsupply.com/. It comes in 12" square sheets, and so far I've been just cutting down to 6" x 6" squares (so 4 to a sheet). You can use the default settings for "Silouette vinyl", though someone suggested turning 'overcut' on for cleaner cuts, so I did by 1mm. I haven't tried yet, but you can also cut thin sheet styrene really precisely, which is intriguing for scratch building.

If you use/are proficient in Adobe Illustrator (or Corel Draw), spring for the plug in, which opens up the world in terms of file formats, and therefore source material. 

Cheers!

-John

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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Sunday, July 1, 2018 2:57 PM

Yet more excellent work! Not exactly sure how I'm going to get mine that good once I get around to it. This post is pretty much the definitive guide to building a Corsair

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

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Posted by 1943Mike on Sunday, July 1, 2018 10:45 AM

It's hard for me to fathom the patience, determination (as Keyda said), and skill you've demonstrated in the building of this kit.

While reading some of your posts I kept getting the sinking feeling that with all the sanding and filing you were doing you'd end up with a hole where there shouldn't be any. I'm sure I would have Angry. But then that's the difference between me and skilled modelers.

That Silhouette Portrait cutting machine looks interesting. Were I to buy one would you recommend my getting just the machine or the machine plus the starter package?

See here:

https://www.amazon.com/Silhouette-Portrait-2-Starter-Bundle/dp/B07B13KLZQ/ref=asc_df_B07B13KLZQ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=242034444893&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15788436527733658224&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032968&hvtargid=pla-438002476975&psc=1

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1376346-REG/silhouette_silhouette_portrait_2_4t_portrait_electronic_cutting_tool.html?ap=y&gclid=CjwKCAjw9-HZBRAwEiwAGw0QcadlpYOSXOPni9KWFvu5iy-L1uQA2jMU_oOoDuxO5hwclwAfbVyBnhoCeQwQAvD_BwE&smp=y

Mike

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Hector Berlioz

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Friday, June 29, 2018 6:52 AM

Thanks Rambo, that’s kind of you to say. Of course, that‘s probaby six weeks of work... :)

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Posted by Rambo on Friday, June 29, 2018 4:13 AM
Looks like you got alot done to me.

Clint

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Friday, June 29, 2018 3:55 AM

Hello! Greetings from Shanghai, where I’ve been on assignment for the past week or so. 

I had a little downtime this afternoon waiting for my flight back to NY, and figured I’d cobble together a post.

Sorry for no update, or general participation on the forum. Same boring stuff—life/work. But even at my glacial pace of scale model construction, I’m probably overdue. This update won’t really be interesting, but the next one should be more so. I also didn’t do much documenting, so apologies for the lack of pics.

We left off last time with fixing the big circular fuel cover in front of the windscreen. Even after everything, it still didn’t look right. So I sanded it back, filled with CA, sanded and primed, and filled, sanded, primed some more until the surface was baby butt smooth to give a properly clean canvas. 

But now it was looking a bit flattened off. Uh oh. Holding up a straightedge showed a flat area about .5mm/.125” deep extending maybe 2.5 cm/1”. So I filled with a couple sheets of .010 styrene, and then shaped that. A few more rounds of priming/sanding, I was ready to scribe the panel and punch rivets. The scribing went okay, but getting the rivets perfectly aligned in the circle was not. 

More filling, sanding, and priming. While I was at it, I also sanded the side markings, wanting to get better ID numbers and to fix some little things with the insignia.

After trying everything I could think of in terms of jigs and paper guides, it finally occurred to me to try cutting a guide in vinyl with the Silhouette Portrait I recently got for cutting masks (among other things). I really, really wish I had taken a pic. I first scribed the outer circle using a metal template. Then, using the dimension of that circle, I created a template in Illustrator (which I’ve been using for work for 25 years, so it’s really fast for me—you could do this with the Silhouette software, I’m sure) and exported to the Silhouette plug in. 

2 minutes later, I had a perfectly cut guide in semi translucent vinyl, the exact size of the panel. Super easy to align. A few minutes with a beading tool and I had my rivets. Bang! I also used this to cut new masks for the ID numbers and insignia. 

I also filled and re-riveted along the nose, and finally attached the engine and cowling, which required still more filling, sanding and re-scribing. None of this is documented.

I know a lot of people say this is a shake and bake kit. And I believe them. But either I really suck at fundamentals of model construction (entirely possible) or we have really different standards for the level of finish and polish we’re looking for. Probably the former. 

(You’d think I’d have taken a pic.)

I added Quickboost exhausts. In retrospect, I could probably have just thinned out the kit exhausts. Live and learn.

Mr Surfacer 1500, followed by a thin wash of Tamiya XF-64 Red Brown, then various pigments. The exhaust stain will get detailed with oils later, but I started it with Tamiya X-19 Smoke thinned 1:10 with Mr Leveling Thinner built up slowly, and masked just behind the raised panel step approximate 1/3 back from the leading edge of the wings.

A quick reference check shows the exhaust cuts sharply off there, then gradually reappears farther down the fuselage. When I go back, I need to get a tighter scallop shape in the stain. 

And finally, I finally started the landing gear, which is almost the last major sub-assembly. One detail of note, is that Eduard supplies replacement PE for the scissor mechanism which has the virtue of including lightening holes. However, they have the wrong cross section, which should be quite hefty. My solution was to rough out the lightening holes in the kit struts, and then CA the Eduard pieces over. 

I’ve been trying to get into machining with a Taig micro lathe, so I thought I try milling them out as a learning exercise. This worked, kind of, but I’d have been better off just drilling them in the conventional way. I was hoping I’d have more control with the cross slide, but the area is just so tiny that it doesn’t really make a difference.

You can kind of see the finished result here. These are waiting for a wash and weathering. 

I’m also going to try to replicate the springs that run from the base of the support bracket up to just above where the hydraulic piston meets the strut. I’ve tried a few things as proof of concept, and think I can get close to the right scale diameter and tightness. Will report back on that.

 And here’s the gang. Ultracast wheels got masks from the Silhouette. I tried masking the old fashioned way, and after spending 15 minutes trying to get a clean cut in Tamiya tape with a compass cutter, realized that this could be way faster. 3 minutes later, perfect vinyl masks. The tires are Tamiya XF-1 with a drop of XF-80 Light Grey. They’ll get a little XF-57 Buff, and then washes for hubs and diamond tire pattern.

Thanks for looking/comments/advice!

-J

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Posted by aeroplanegripper on Tuesday, May 22, 2018 2:50 PM

Johnny,

Superb build, I will be starting on the Tamiya 1/72 Birdcage next, and this is getting me keen to start. Well done. Ill be watching this with interest.

Best Regards

Mark

"bis vivit qui bene vivit"

 

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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Tuesday, May 22, 2018 2:47 PM

Looking really good Johnny. Can't wait to see how you weather it. Going to have to try spraying markings myself (a first for me) on the Boomerang due to the amount of fading.

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

Chris

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Posted by scottrc on Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:47 PM

Johnny,

I am tagging this build log for future references.  You are doing a lot of neat things.  You tagged a photo earlier of the Corsair with the wild tail weathering.  That looks like a neat one to try to replicate.  

Scott

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Tuesday, May 22, 2018 9:41 AM

Thankee much! 

What I'm really liking about MRP is how workable they are after laying them down. I'm sort of using them interchangeably with Tamiya/MLT, but MRP does seem a bit more forgiving downstream. 

Re: decals... except for really small/complex stuff, they're for the birds. I haven't used Montex. I liked the Maketar masks okay, but as I kept mangling them, it was really bothering me that the supply of each insignia was extremely finite. And I also wanted a bit more control over how the ID number is rendered so... I just ordered a Silouette Portrait to cut my own masks. Rabbit, meet hole. :)

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Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, May 21, 2018 11:51 PM
Yeah, the waiting is the hardest part bro. That's coming out great. I used MRP on my Corsair and liked it. I still prefer Tamiya paints though. Decals? we don't need no stinkin' decals! Montex all the way...

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Monday, May 21, 2018 5:13 PM

The waiting is the hardest part
Every day you see one more card
You take it on faith, you take it to the heart
The waiting is the hardest part

Had some time this weekend, and made some progress. We’re getting there, in fits and starts. 

First up, the panel detailing on the forward top of the fuselage. In the process of cleaning up the seam between the two fuselage halves, the fuel tank cover got a bit chewed up. This is an area that is messy in a lot of people’s builds, so I was kind of going to let it slide, but as I get closer to finishing, it was standing out as a real weak spot. I also noticed that it should only have an inner ring of rivets, not both inner and outer as rendered by Tamiya, and was considering how to address that.

I’m using lacquers (MRP) to paint, which are very sand-able, so it’s easy to feather out and then blend back in, which means you always have a lot of control and it's not a big deal to go back and fix things.

Here I’ve started sanding down and filling with CA. I was originally tried selectively re-scribing the lines and rivets, but it didn’t quite look right, and CA is hard to scribe with any control. I decided to wipe it out and start over. While I was there, I also noticed that the small square panel right behind the cowl isn’t shown on any reference I could find, so I deleted that as well.

My first attempt at a template for the rivets. The thing about this method is that it’s nearly impossible to line up precisely with the panel line. So, I filled again, this time with sprue goo, on the basis that it’s styrene, so it scribes well once it finally sets. 

In search of a more precise method, I got almost Budzikian with a plan to photo etch a template of the cover with rivet holes, which I would temporarily CA in place. My etching skills aren’t really dialed in yet, so that didn’t work. I eventually figured out that if you do the rivets first, it’s easy to line up the guide around them. 

Here’s the cover re-scribed cover. I had let the sprue goo set over night, but should have really given it more time because it was still a bit soft in spots. 

The end result. I’ve got to go back and touch up a few spots—a bit of goo sitting proud that I didn’t quite catch around the starboard side, and then pocks where the styrene wasn’t quite ready to be worked. Even still, as is it’s way better than it was. 

But in the meantime, it’s time for markings! I do not like decals for insignia if I can help it. Here I’m trying Maketar masks. That ID number is too big. I removed and used smaller. 

  

Here I’ve got the white bits masked, and am getting the insignia blue on. You can see the smaller ID number already on, but it’s not still not right—for one, the spacing should be tighter. 

This looks okay, but could look a lot better. I’d like to get closer to references (both shots from VMF-115). I have a plan. 

I didn’t wait long enough for the Insignia white to set before masking (sensing a theme here?), so I’ve got some remedial work to do to fix, but it’s starting to look like a Corsair. 

I’m really excited to finally get to panel lines and weathering. Just not sure when I’ll get time at the bench next… so it goes! Thanks for looking.

Cheers

-J

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Thursday, May 10, 2018 1:26 PM

Thanks Chris!

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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Wednesday, May 9, 2018 3:53 PM

Looking really good. Definitely has that worn and faded look nailed.

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

Chris

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:44 AM

Thanks Bob

I look forward to seeing your Corsair when you get to it.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:00 AM
That looks really good Johnny! I'm not sure how I missed your earlier post with the chipping. Looks like you made a nice recovery. I'm going to be sure to refer back to this when I get around to doing my own Corsair.

On my bench: Academy 1/35 UH-60L Black Hawk

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Tuesday, May 8, 2018 5:25 PM

Quick update… 

Not much to report, due to not much time at the bench, and what I do have to show is basically a rework of stuff I’ve already done. 

I decided that the camo coat needed some work, and that a lot of the paint chipping was a bit over scale. When I went in to clean up and rechip, I accidentally bombed the hair spray, melting a bunch of paint underneath. This necessitated much sanding and clean up over a good chunk of the upper wings and fuselage. I re-primed the key areas with Mr Surfacer 1500, and laid down Alcald Aluminum over, with a light hair spray layer over that to give me a base to chip with.

As long as I was going back in, I wanted to try to get a more finally modulated finish, so I built up layers of slightly lighter and darker blue tones, using MRP sea blue mixed with more or less MRP light grey. The nice thing about MRP being lacquers is that if you get into trouble, it’s not a big deal to sand back and get back in to fix.

Here’s where I’m at with it. I need to fix the blend in the intermediate blue on the fuselage, and I might tone down the transition to the fabric portion of wings a bit, but otherwise I’m pretty happy with how it’s starting to take shape. 

The chipping is at scale, and the variation of tones over the surface looks close to my references. 

Thanks for looking

-J

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Monday, April 9, 2018 7:21 PM

Howdy, all

In addition to faded camo, land based Corsairs in the South Pacific were notorious for heavily chipped paint, mostly due to the runways being surfaced with crushed coral, which would literally sandblast the leading edges. 

I wanted to try multilayer hairspray chipping, and also black basing, because why keep it simple when you can overcomplicate it?  

Start off with a layer of Alclad aluminum cover the areas I want to expose. Then decant a bit of Tresemme 3 hairspray (some people spray it right out of the can, but that freaks me out) and spray 3-4 light coats.

As soon as that’s dry to the touch, a thin coat of XF-4 for the zinc chromate. This is going to pretty much all be covered or stripped, so don’t get too fussy about it. 

Chips! Rubbing a wet brush on the areas you want to chip soaks through the paint and reactivates the hairspray, loosening chips of paint. If you’re super fussy, getting very specific effects take practice, but here I was just trying to get a general effect. 

That gets sealed with a varnish, in this case MRP matte, and then when that’s dry, another layer of black (for the black basing) under the camo color. I used X-18, semi gloss black because, and then remembered why I avoid it. (What’s wrong with that shade?)

A quick detour to the belly to show the black basing. Basically, the idea is to slowly build up random patterns of the camo color (in this case MRP Insignia White), along with other colors to create a modulated surface. You can avoid the panels lines to get a kind of pre-shading effect. I sort of tried, but pre-shading doesn’t ever look right to me, so I gave up.

This gets a blend layer. I’ll be honest, by the time I had enough density to get the camo color looking right, I lost most of the modulation. I might try it again, and I’m a convert to the idea of a more nuanced finish, but I think other ways to achieve modulation might be more my speed.

Back to the top. MRP Sea Blue. MRP is more like a lacquer than an acrylic, so you have to get in quick to get chipping before it cures. The wing root area looks pretty good here. It’s hard to see in the glare, but the leading edge isn’t so great.

But the root on this side is just bad. You can see where I tried gently sanding down to get through the finish, which mostly just exposed the black layer. On the other hand, the leading edge on this side is pretty respectable.

So, a little 91% IA and I get the inner wing back down to the Alclad. On the second round, I didn’t bother with the ZC layer. 

And here’s where we are. The wing root is looking a lot better. The starboard leading edge is better, but could probably be better still. And then the main thing is I’ve faded the Sea Blue and Intermediate blue a lot, getting a nicely modulated surface. I’ll go back and touch up a bit here and there, and this will get a bit more homogeneous overall with downstream weathering, but I’m basically happy with where it’s headed.

That’s all's I got. Thanks for looking.

-J

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Sunday, April 8, 2018 1:02 PM

lawdog114
Loving this...I take it you didn’t have trouble attaching the outer wings. I had a bear of a time getting a solid bond and used styrene reinforcement inside. I love the raised flap work.

Thanks, Joe. I remembered that you had mentioned fussing with it, so I went back to your build log to see what you had done, but of course all the images got obliterated in the Photobucalypse. 

I did a bonehead move in getting my wings on, which was that I was so focused on getting the fit in the wheel wells right, I didn't check to make sure I had everything I needed before gluing the outer wall, and omitted the spars that exend out, which are meant to slide in before attaching. So I had to trim a bit, and then to reinforce, I first cemented and then filled the remaining cavity with 5 minute epoxy.

To get the outer wings on, I glued the wing tops on first, again reinforcing with great globs of epoxy, and then the bottoms after, reasoning that I'd get the strength I needed, and still be able to manage any fit issues. I think it worked out okay, but was probably the long way around the tree...

-J

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Sunday, April 8, 2018 12:51 PM

ChrisJH666

Did you not try obtaining a pack of sprues of various light lenses in clear coloured plastic? Just a thought. Got some myself which should look ok.

 

 
Thanks Chris... I surely would have, but it never occured to me that such a thing even existed. But of course it does. Now that I have the procedure down, I can crank a nav light out in about 15 minutes, so I reckon I'm happy I've acquired a skill.
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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, April 7, 2018 11:47 PM
Loving this...I take it you didn’t have trouble attaching the outer wings. I had a bear of a time getting a solid bond and used styrene reinforcement inside. I love the raised flap work.

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Saturday, April 7, 2018 6:34 PM

Did you not try obtaining a pack of sprues of various light lenses in clear coloured plastic? Just a thought. Got some myself which should look ok.

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

Chris

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Friday, April 6, 2018 11:07 PM

According to current Hollywood cinematic narrative structural theory, there’s a dark place towards the end of the second act, where the protagonist experiences a kind of reckoning, facing death (literal or symbolic) and emerges with the insight and vision s/he needs to vanquishing the forces of opposition and carry the day, propelling us into Act 3, where it all goes down. 

The weirdly influential screenwriter and codifier of this theory, the late Blake Snyder (“Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot”, “Blank Check”) called this beat “The Dark Night of the Soul.” While the merits of Snyder’s theory are debatable, it really is influential, and has become a big driver of the Hollywood formula. (Happy to debate this elsewhere.)

That’s where I am in this build—the dark night of the soul. I’ve actually had a lot of time  over the past week to work on it, and have made some progress, but it mostly felt like nothing was coming together. Since bench time is rare for me, and extended time happens almost never, it’s a little frustrating, but what can you do? 

Enough philosophizing and sad sacking… since this is a procedural, let’s procedure a bit, shall we?

First up is the navigation lights, which come molded into the wing. On the real thing, they’re clear with a colored bulb, so faking it out won’t really work. Snip, snip.

I first tried taking a length of clear sprue, filing flat on two sides at 90 degrees, drilling a hole, which I filled with Tamiya X-25 or 27 clear. That worked, kind of. Clear sprue looks okay, but is so brittle that it’s hard to work with. 

To affix, I tried UV glue. It’s basically like 5 minute epoxy, drying completely clear, except that it cures from ultraviolet light. It’s strong, but brittle. Every time I tried to clip off the excess sprue, I’d break it off. 

Eventually I got smarter and used shorter bits, but I kept cracking the part as I filed to shape. After two full sessions of this, I got even smarter and remembered that I had .030 clear poly, which is not brittle and turned out to be way easier to work with. The problem was that it was a little thinner than the wing, but UV glue came to the rescue, because you can build it up like gap filling CA, except that it won’t fog the plastic. 

Here we are, filed to shape, It looks miserable now, but hang on a second.

Here it is, polished and nice. It still needs another pass before it's completely shiney, but you can see where this is headed. I didn’t let the green paint dry before attaching it, so it bled a little into the glue. Still, it looks way more credible than painting the whole thing.
 

Now we’re ready to prime. I’m giving Mr Surfacer 1500 a try.

Naturally, after working on the navigation lights for four or five hours, I forgot all about them, and only remembered when I had to clean up an airbrush “burp.” The only way I could think of to do it was to mask around, then paint on micro mask. 

Then I remembered that I forgot to attach the spoiler. In cleaning it up, it flew off into the alternate universe where small styrene and metal parts go to be free. I took a bit of styrene L bar, and trimmed/filed to shape, getting the interior profile with a round jewelers file. I have references that show these in slightly different places—somewhere between 8 inches to a foot and a half outboard of the guns. I reckon they were probably just unscientifically riveted on wherever in that area.

Finally, and at long last, primed. Mr Surfacer 1500 is really lovely, if a bit unforgiving. But that’s a good trait in a primer. If you can get the finish looking tolerable, it will probably be okay.   

But this is just the beginning in a way. 

Next up: Adventures in Chipped Camo.

As always, thanks for looking, and comments/critique welcome.

-J

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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Sunday, March 25, 2018 3:21 PM

Bow Down

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

Chris

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Sunday, March 25, 2018 12:34 PM

One of the things that the Tamiya kit gets wrong, but in the ‘right’ way, is how they handled the flaps.  Dropping the flaps lends a nice sense of animation to the F4U, and the way they engineered the details looks really good. The only problem is that land based Corsairs didn’t really ever seem to be parked with the flaps down during WW2. 

Check out the weathering on the rudder!

Even the shot Tamiya based the box art for both the 1/48 and 1/32 F4U-1a has the flaps up. On the illustration for the box, they altered it so the flaps are down.

Ultracast makes a resin drop in replacement, but it isn’t really that hard to modify the kit flaps. 

Here they are as they come. Note I’ve filled in the cut out on the starboard inboard flap, as that wasn’t added until the dash 1D. I just cut .040 styrene strip to size and then cemented in place on both sides. Later I’ll fill in any gaps with Mr Surfacer 500.

The first operation is to trim off the locating pegs. (What are they actually called?) Sprue cutters are super useful for nibbling.

File and sand down. You also have to trim off a panel from the smallest flap, and a hinge in the wing itself.

I worked my way in from the outbound most flap on the logic that fit issues would be more noticeable out on the wing than in the root. I did need to close a gap between the middle and inboard flaps. I cemented a bit of .010 styrene to the end, then trimmed and filed to shape.

Once all the flaps were installed and aligned, I daubed some 5 minute epoxy in the cavity for additional strength, since there weren’t any engineering features, such as the trimmed off locating pegs, left to reinforce them.

Finally, I cut strips of .005 styrene to represent the panels that cover the gaping openings between the leading edge of the flap and the trailing edge of the wing itself on the actual plane. I’m not really sure how these worked—perhaps they slide into the wing prior to the flaps actually dropping?

Note the smear on the inboard port wing. That’s the remains of a sloppy glue fingerprint. Ooops.

On the inboard starboard wing, the hole got a lavish application of Mr Surfacer 500, which was allowed to dry overnight, and then sanded.  

I’m so close, yet somehow still so far, from getting some paint on this. 

Thanks for looking.

-J

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Sunday, March 25, 2018 12:23 PM

ChrisJH666

Just looked up Jerry Strobel's link for P&W engine logo decals

http://fundekals.com/RadialEngine.html

only to find they are out of stock!! Grrrr! Boo Hoo 

I sent Wally at fundekals an email inquirying. He says "we're thinking of doing a larger sheet with LOTS of goodies in one place: instrument dials, engine logos, prop labels. whaddya think of that??"

"Sign me up!" is what I think. 

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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Friday, March 16, 2018 4:31 PM

Just looked up Jerry Strobel's link for P&W engine logo decals

http://fundekals.com/RadialEngine.html

only to find they are out of stock!! Grrrr! Boo Hoo

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

Chris

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:00 PM

thanks guys!

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Posted by Hodakamax on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 1:07 PM

Double Wow! on the engine!

Max

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:15 PM

The engine and gear bays are superb!

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/48 Airfix Bf109 & 1/35 Tamiya Famo

On deck: Who knows!

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Tuesday, March 13, 2018 7:10 PM

ChrisJH666

Good to see you are actually human after all!! Looks like it's still coming on nicely though

 

 
Thanks, Chris... I think. :)
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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Tuesday, March 13, 2018 2:57 PM

Good to see you are actually human after all!! Looks like it's still coming on nicely though

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

Chris

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Monday, March 12, 2018 11:33 PM

kielers
You're getting it right.  This is amazing detail 

Thanks Kielers!

Between a family vacation and upheavals at work, I’ve barely moved this project forward. We’ll get to the build in a minute, but first I hope you’ll indulge me:

The night before we left for Guatemala, my boss announced to my counterpart and I that he was leaving the company, which meant our team was facing an uncertain fate in the big game of Corporate Org Chart Shuffle. Therefore, I couldn’t really check out as things got worked out over many conference calls. One key discussion was with our global CEO, who was in Thailand at the time. He wanted to have the call before dinner, and Thailand is 13 hours ahead of Guatemala, so while I had to get up at what seemed like an entirely unreasonable hour, I did get to watch the sun rise behind a volcano over a beautiful lake.

File under: could be worse. 

Getting back home has meant long days at the office. It’s all basically good, even as I have Corsairs flying in my head while I’m meant to be focusing on this or that. Grown up stuff getting in the way of kid stuff, I guess. Anyway, thanks for the indulgence. 

And all is not lost, as I have managed to sneak in a bit of bench time here and there, and I’ve even managed to document a little of it, so away we go.

In my excitement over detailing the business end of the wheel wells, I completely overlooked the other end. Holy smoke, that chasm is awful. The illusion of scale is at least as much about the worst bits as the best, and something like that will instantly kill any sense of veritas. 

Please excuse the appallingly terrible photo. 

Paul Budzick has almost completely scared me out of 'normal' putties, so I first tried sliding in stock styrene, but that didn’t work. A much simpler method ended up being stuffing in some Milliput and smoothing out a little with my pinkie. I was later able to sand, and now it’s all smooth. I don’t have a pic of the end result handy, but it looks like it will be plenty convincing when it gets a coat of paint.

I’m a glutton for punishment, I guess, and so decided to drop the elevators. To separate them with that 90 degree angle in near each end, I first cut the long ends with a JLC razor saw, which is capable of extremely fine cuts (super handy! Via UMM), and then scored the short end and snapped. The elevators will get their leading edges built back up with .040 styrene strip, and then be filed and sanded to shape. More on that later.

One issue I have with the engineering of the whole turtle deck scheme is that it means there’s inevitably an awful gap between the bulkhead and the fuselage. To fill, I first used gap filling CA. But naturally, didn’t sand it all the way down quickly enough, so in the process of smoothing/flattening/feathering, I ended up gouging the bulkhead. To repair, first I tried vigorous filing and sanding. And then I slathered on Mr Surfacer 1000, and gently sanded and buffed, which helped. It looks miserable here, but in the end, it cleaned up okay. 

  

And here we are. Some Mr Surfacer 1500 for checking seams gives it a slightly charred look, but it’s starting to look a bit like an airplane. 

 

Next time: raising the flaps. 

-J

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Wednesday, March 7, 2018 3:14 PM

Jerry Strobel

Or you could try these if you're of the inclination.

http://fundekals.com/RadialEngine.html

1/48 Pratt & Whitney logos.

Your F4U looks great by the way. 

Thanks Jerry. Whoa! Amazing. I immediately went to order, but sadly, it's out of stock. I have an email out to them to see when/if it will be back in stock.

I have to make a couple custom decals anyway for the squadron logo, so I guess worst case is I could make a P&W logo as well. 

-J

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Posted by kielers on Tuesday, March 6, 2018 7:17 AM

You're getting it right.  This is amazing detail

"To stand upon ramparts and die for our principles is heroic, but to sally forth to battle and win for our principles is something more than heroic." -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt. "Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few." -- Winston Churchill

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Posted by Jerry Strobel on Tuesday, March 6, 2018 6:56 AM

Or you could try these if you're of the inclination.

http://fundekals.com/RadialEngine.html

1/48 Pratt & Whitney logos.

Your F4U looks great by the way.

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Wednesday, February 21, 2018 6:40 PM

cwalker3: thanks!

ChrisJH666

There's rabbits down this hole???? Explains a lot!

Rabbits? I'm pretty sure there's weasles, ferrits, pythons, and a fellow with a funny hat down this hole.

In the meantime, I've traded in my subterranean workbench for a bit of tropical fresh air:

We'll get back to the ongoing adventures of mangling Tamiya's perfectly lovely F4U next week...

-J

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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Wednesday, February 21, 2018 1:51 PM

There's rabbits down this hole???? Explains a lot!

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

Chris

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Posted by cwalker3 on Wednesday, February 21, 2018 6:31 AM

Amazing build!

Cary

 


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Posted by Johnny1000 on Wednesday, February 7, 2018 12:53 PM

Thanks Chris!

Would you even be able to see it on the Boomerang? Between the big spinner and smallish cowl opening, there isn't a whole lot of engine visible. (I recognize that may not be the point at all, and far be for me to question anyone going down a rabbithole!) 

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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Wednesday, February 7, 2018 6:16 AM

That wheel well is insanely good! As for your badge on the engine casing, when I saw that I thought "I've got two of those on my aftermarket Boomerang etch!" My excitement faded rapidly when I looked at them and discovered that, although the design on them is the right shape, they are just blue and white and will need some careful overpainting! Grrrr!

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

Chris

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Saturday, February 3, 2018 11:07 AM

Jay Jay

I gotta give my 2 cents and reiterate that the engine is amazing. Really good work Mate

Thanks Jay Jay! 

With the engine wrapped up, it’s time to finally turn my attention to the airframe. I got the fuselage buttoned up, which feels momentous. Huzzah! I had been holding off on that until completing the engine in case I had to do something surgical to mount it. As it turns out, all that needed to happen was cutting off the flange on which the kit exhaust manifold part mounts and then filling in with styrene. 

I’m not sure this is all that important, but to give more surface area to the connection point of the engine, I cemented .040 styrene sheet across the inside, and then .040 and .010 discs laminated together on top, so that it’s flush in front.

To fill in the void left by cutting off the rudder (way back in October!) I roughly cemented styrene sheet, and then filled in with Milliput. It’s going to take a bit of back and forth to get the rudder to fit in snug with the vertical stabilizer. 

I also got the some of the details picked out in the wheel wells to get the wing root subassembly ready. This looks pretty good from a distance, but the detail is a bit mushy up close from insufficiently controlled application of CA. I’ll probably try a wash and maybe a little chipping here and there to at least give the illusion of crisper detail. 

As always, thanks for looking, and any comments/tips/pointers, etc. are appreciated.

-J

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Posted by Jay Jay on Thursday, January 25, 2018 6:32 PM

I gotta give my 2 cents and reiterate that the engine is amazing. Really good work Mate

 

 

 

 

 

 I'm finally retired. Now time I got, money I don't.

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Thursday, January 25, 2018 7:52 AM

lawdog114: thanks!

1943Mike: Thanks! And oh no, it's far worse than that. That's the data plate, which Vector has molded on, and I've painted (you can kind of see it in the pic above—I'll try to get a better shot of it, though I need to clean it up a little). 

The logo sits at the base of the gear reduction housing: 

That's also molded in, with the ring and eagle in relief. My plan was to try to partly fill in the cavity of the background with light blue, then brush over dark brown for the ring and eagle, and finally add a tiny dot of white for his head. Pretty silly...

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Posted by 1943Mike on Wednesday, January 24, 2018 11:25 PM

 

"I'm also determined to get the PW logo painted, thought that might be more sheer stupidity than anything."

 

 

 Johnny,

 

Are you talking about this:

 

'Cause if you are, you're not stupid, you're just insane Wink.

 

This may not be the exact R-1800 on your F4U but it's a very, very tiny little label as far as I can see. Best of luck with it.

 

BTW, fabulous job on the engine!

 

 

 

 

Mike

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Hector Berlioz

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Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, January 24, 2018 11:09 PM
Awesome!.....

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Wednesday, January 24, 2018 10:56 PM

RadMax8

The engine looks phenomenal. Almost looks like you could just fire it up and fly away!

The letter from your grandfather is a riot! The zinger for me? “I’ve worn the tape out boring my children...” Oh my, that’s rich!

Keep up the great work, and thank you for sharing tidbits from your grandfather!

Thanks RadMax! 

Yes, that's a great line. Not sure it's entirely true, but who's to say...

But the next time anyone tries to say that a Corsair was hard to handle, remind them that a tail first attitude would put it down like a limpet. (I had to look up 'limpet'—a tightly clinging marine mollusk.)

-J

 

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Wednesday, January 24, 2018 10:45 PM

Keyda81

I need some lessons from you!  Can't wait to see it all together!

Thanks Keyda. That's so nice of you to say, and much appreciated, but I've seen your builds and don't think you need lessons from anyone—you consistently crank out really respectable work at a rate I have a hard time comprehending.  

-J

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Wednesday, January 24, 2018 10:39 PM

BrandonD

It's too bad you're just slapping this together. I'd like to see one with some real detail in it.

Kidding, of course. Holy WOW that's amazing so far!

-BD-

Ha! Thanks, Brandon. 

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Posted by RadMax8 on Wednesday, January 24, 2018 10:13 PM

The engine looks phenomenal. Almost looks like you could just fire it up and fly away!

The letter from your grandfather is a riot! The zinger for me? “I’ve worn the tape out boring my children...” Oh my, that’s rich!

Keep up the great work, and thank you for sharing tidbits from your grandfather!

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Posted by Keyda81 on Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:51 PM

I need some lessons from you!  Can't wait to see it all together!

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Posted by BrandonD on Wednesday, January 24, 2018 6:08 PM

It's too bad you're just slapping this together. I'd like to see one with some real detail in it.

Kidding, of course. Holy WOW that's amazing so far!

-BD-

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Wednesday, January 24, 2018 5:45 PM

Quick update on that R-2800.

 

I've given it a nice wash, courtesy Humbrol, added the harness (0.010 copper wire, annealed and painted) and am working my way through adding the harness clips (wine bottle foil). The latter kind of falls into the category of "life's too short" because it's extremely fiddly and time-consuming work, but it's the kind of thing that, if I get it right, can also push it over the top. Not sure if I'm getting it right enough, but I'm mostly through it, so there it is. Once they're all on, I'll probably do another wash or something to get them to 'sit down' a bit. 

 

I'm also determined to get the PW logo painted, thought that might be more sheer stupidity than anything. 

 

 

Thanks for looking

-J

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Monday, January 22, 2018 9:26 PM

While I work my way through detailing the R-2800, a bit of an aside. 

I recently came across a letter my grandfather had written to the writers of a book published by the Department of Defense in the mid 90s called “No Easy Days: The Incredible Drama of Naval Aviation,” wherein he sets out to dispel what he saw as myths about the F4U with respect to bouncy landings and stall characteristics.

He pushes back on both points with humor and aplomb. A typical quote:
“Whether it was the British satisfaction with the F4U aboard ship or Navy pilots' chagrin that the Marines had a superior aircraft, in January of 1945, the Navy took back the F4U's, giving the F6F's to the Marine Groups that were going aboard CVE's with their own Carrier Air Service Detachments.”

He never missed a chance to take a swipe at either the Navy or the F6F... 

Since there are a few Corsair enthusiasts here, I figured I’d share:

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Monday, January 22, 2018 9:23 PM

ChrisJH666

It's somewhere down the list after a couple of Spitfires (MkV Malta, MkVIII RAAF), a P39 (RAAF), and a Martin Maryland (Malta, Adrian Warburtons aircraft). The plan is to do an RNZAF one.

That engine is looking really good. Gotta do the one on my Boomerang soon!

Thanks! And I hope it creeps it's way up that list, as I do likes me some RNZAF Corsairs. 

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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:25 AM

It's somewhere down the list after a couple of Spitfires (MkV Malta, MkVIII RAAF), a P39 (RAAF), and a Martin Maryland (Malta, Adrian Warburtons aircraft). The plan is to do an RNZAF one.

That engine is looking really good. Gotta do the one on my Boomerang soon!

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

Chris

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:38 AM

I got both the flu and strep throat (feeling much better, thanks), which derailed building activities. So slow going, but I did manage to sneak in enough bench time in the past week to warrant an update. 

Which is the Vector engine? Next to the Tamiya, there’s just no comparison. 

Mr Surfacer 1500 prepares the surface while also temporarily giving the machine a fearsome Steampunk-Vader vibe.

The ignition ring gets a pass of Alclad Aluminum.

While we’re at it, the cylinders get a gloss treatment, courtesy of Tamiya X-22 clear gloss over the black, and then once that had a bit to settle in, Alclad Aluminum.

To prep for losing it’s all-black bad-assery, I carefully masked the ignition ring with small bits of Tamiya tape. Now it looks a bit like an Elizabethan nobleman.

Mr Paint Neutral Grey, MRP-141, gives a pretty good gear reduction housing finish. I built up the color slowly in thin layers to hopefully give some depth and dimension to the finish.

The exhaust pipes get a light treatment of XF-64, Red Brown, allowing the black to sneak in here and there, and then a brushing of reddish oxide and umber pigment. These won’t be visible at all from the front, but hopefully there will be tantalizing glimpses through the open cooling flaps on the cowl. I’m not going to detail the back of the engine beyond this, since there will be literally no way to see it. 

Even this was probably overkill, but I used it as an opportunity to do a proof of concept for a potential future build I’m considering.

Assembled, posing with the Tamiya engine (top left) and Quickboost (right). I’m pretty happy with where we’re headed. There’s really no comparison at all with the kit engine, and while the Quickboost is really nice if small, the Vector is just that much nicer.

Finally, a coat of Future to ready it for oil washes. I really hate it when we have to gloss stuff up. I know it’s for a good cause, but still, I’ll be glad when we’re back to matte. (Yes, I know the gear reduction housing and pushrods were glossy on the real thing, at least coming out of the factory. But I don’t think anything stayed glossy for long in the South Pacific.)

A note about assembly: I added the front row of cylinders first, placing and then gluing with a tiny dab of thin CA on the backside, where you won’t see any errant globs. The back row is a bit trickier because of the exhaust manifold. What I figured out is that it’s better to alternate cylinder/exhaust pipe and work your way around so you can make sure everything is aligned correctly before committing. The push rod procedure is the same as with the Quickboost (back in November).

Next up: wiring the ignition harness. 

Thanks for looking

-J

 

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Monday, January 8, 2018 10:39 AM

Thanks Chris! I hope you do get around to it... I bet it will be all kinds of awesome. You'd do it in RAAF markings?

-J

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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Friday, January 5, 2018 3:37 PM

This build is just crazy good!! It's one of those posts I will be keeping tucked away for reference if I ever get round to building mine!

 

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

Chris

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Friday, January 5, 2018 10:16 AM

Toshi: thanks!

I'm excited to dive into it, though honestly a bit daunted as well: cleaning up and gluing in 18 cylinders and however many parts for the exaust manifold, the magneto and distributers, plus adding in another 18 push rods (or 36 if I decided for some reason that I have to do them for the back row), drilling out the connection points on the ignition ring and then adding 36 wires for the harness... oh, and painting/weathering. 

Actually, that sounds like my kind of thing exactly. But at the rate I build, it's hard to see how I can get it done before spring... And that's okay. :)

Hunter: Wow, thanks! 

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Posted by Hunter on Thursday, January 4, 2018 6:37 PM

Johnny,

Absolutely wonderful work going on there. The pit is amazing...looks perfect.

Hunter 

      

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, January 4, 2018 6:31 PM

Johnny1000

leemitcheltree: thanks!

Keyda81: I reckon I'm a glutton, I guess, though I think I might soon find my limits to both. :)

RadMax8: Thanks! Those wheel wells are starting to make me a bit twitchy... 

Toshi: Thanks much, my friend. 

Speaking of twitchy, once I get the wheel bays squared away, then it's back to the engine. And because that beautiful Quickboost R-2800, with only two resin parts, is halfway to 1/72 scale, we're going with the Vector. It's definitely overkill for a closed cowl, but seems like the best of the available options. And man, that's some lovely detail.

I need to get it assembled before I close up the fuselage to make sure I have a clear plan of how to install in the event I need to chop up the fuselage (anyone done this before? Tips/advice welcome!). 

I feel like things are about to start getting real, but I can't back down now.

Yikes!

-J

 

In my very short time of inexperience in building Aircraft, it is my humble opinion that as far as an AM resin engine is concerned, Vector is at the top of their tier.  Detail is magnificent and I have yet to find others that are close.  Great choice Johnny1000!

Your friend, Toshi

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Thursday, January 4, 2018 1:37 PM

leemitcheltree: thanks!

Keyda81: I reckon I'm a glutton, I guess, though I think I might soon find my limits to both. :)

RadMax8: Thanks! Those wheel wells are starting to make me a bit twitchy... 

Toshi: Thanks much, my friend. 

Speaking of twitchy, once I get the wheel bays squared away, then it's back to the engine. And because that beautiful Quickboost R-2800, with only two resin parts, is halfway to 1/72 scale, we're going with the Vector. It's definitely overkill for a closed cowl, but seems like the best of the available options. And man, that's some lovely detail.

I need to get it assembled before I close up the fuselage to make sure I have a clear plan of how to install in the event I need to chop up the fuselage (anyone done this before? Tips/advice welcome!). 

I feel like things are about to start getting real, but I can't back down now.

Yikes!

-J

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, January 4, 2018 12:20 AM

This is amazing, detail galore!

Your friend, Toshi

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Posted by RadMax8 on Wednesday, January 3, 2018 9:49 PM

Those seatbelts are the cat’s pajamas. Not to mention the detail in the gear bay is looking great. I need to up my game, I think!

Happy New Year to you, as well!

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Posted by Keyda81 on Wednesday, January 3, 2018 8:48 PM

Wow!  I wish I had your paitence and determination.  That looks stunning!

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Posted by leemitcheltree on Wednesday, January 3, 2018 7:44 PM

Wow.....beautiful.

Cheers, LeeTree
Remember, Safety Fast!!!

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Tuesday, January 2, 2018 11:36 PM

Happy New Year, everyone. I hope 2018 brings good tidings. 

I’ve mostly been away for the holidays, but did manage to sneak in a little bench time over the last couple of days. 

First up, the seat belts. I had ordered a set of HGW belts almost as a lark, not expecting them to arrive before I had gotten the seat with the Fine Molds cleaned up, but rather as something to consider for a future build, but when the arrived, I got more intrigued.

This is a terrible photo, but hopefully gets the gist across. It’s a sheet with the textile portion of the belts printed onto a kind of textured film, and then a fret of PE hardware. Cutting out the belts isn’t hard—I squared the sheet onto a sheet of acrylic, and then used a thin beam square to guide the cuts.  To assemble, you ‘simply’ thread the the textile pieces through the hardware, and then glue in place with PVA glue (apparently CA will melt the film). It’s not actually all that hard once you get in the swing of it, but it is slow, fussy work. 

Each belt is made up of four textile pieces. The shoulder harnesses each use two PE parts, plus another for the backing brace. The lap belts use three PE parts, plus one more for the latch. Altogether it’s 29 parts. For seat belts. It took me a couple hours to get them fully assembled. 

But man, it just looks right. The one drag is I couldn’t flip the one shoulder harness like I wanted to because there’s no backing detail. I suppose you might be able to sandwich another piece of textile on the reverse side, and then scratch the back of the buckle, but I’ve had enough experimentation with this seat for this build.

On to the wheel wells.  

The Tamiya kit offers rudimentary detailing, with the hydraulic cylinders and a simplified junction box. We could just weave in wiring around them, maybe drill out the cylinders to add the piston rods, but what would the fun be with that?

Instead, I scraped out the detailing, including the ribbing, with a Mission Models Micro Chisel (super useful tool) and a file. 

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I added back the ribbing with .020 x .010” styrene strip. For the junction, I took 0.020” rod and carefully glued it in an arrangement roughly approximating the prototype, with two bars, a spacer, and then a third bar. 

I also scraped out four ribs on the interior sidewall and CA’d on a bit of wine bottle foil for the canvas access hatch. You can’t really tell in this pic, but I embossed dots around the ring to simulate buttons.

At this point, I added the outside sidewalls. These don’t normally get added until you add the outer wings, but as far as I can tell, you can add at this point. The alignment is critical to getting the seam between the outer sidewall and the top, so I wanted to do when I had the most control and the fewest moving parts.

For the hydraulic cylinders, I used nested Albion aluminum tubing with thin strips of furnace tape (basically thick foil with adhesive backing—it comes in a roll like duct tape that will last a modeler literally forever) and then wire for the piston. 

Now we’re about back to where Tamiya left us, but with a little more clarity in the detail.

 Most of the various conduit and wires added, except for the hydraulic lines to the cylinders, which will come in next. At the moment it looks a bit of a dog’s breakfast, but these runs are on the real thing as well. Once everything is the same color, and I get those main hydraulic lines in, in front, it should start to pull together.

  

I also finally assembled the cockpit—this felt a bit momentous to me. Before buttoning it up, I did fix the registration of the instruments in the panel. To affix the panel face back on on the instrument film, instead of using PVA glue this time, I painted the front of the film with Future. 

Reverse view, showing off the ‘famous’ belts.

  

I might actually start thinking about getting the fuselage together, though it might make more sense to wait until the engine is built, in case there’s any heavy modification required to get the engine installed. Speaking of, the Vector R-2800 is a project all on it’s own, but that's for another day. At least its close to scale. 

That’s it for now. Thanks for looking. 

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Monday, December 18, 2017 12:59 PM

Hello all

It came to my attention on another forum that the Quickboost engine is under-scale, so I measured. It’s a little over 9 scale inches—or 17%—short. That’s more like 1/58th scale than 1/48. I’m not all that fussy about ‘to the rivet’ accuracy, but that’s a bit too much for me. 

As long as I was measuring, I compared to the kit engine and an R2800 resin set from Verlinden I inherited in an eBay transaction. (I used the included fronts to measure, what with the full engine being hard to accurately measure unassembled.)

It turns out none of them are right:

  • Quickboost: .912" which is equivalent to 43.77 scale inches
  • Tamiya: .980" is a little over 47 scale inches
  • Verlinden is the closest, at 1.055", or 50.64 scale inches. 

I had some thoughts about using the Verlinden, but despite being closer to scale, it’s really not much of a step up from the Tamiya—the molded in push rods kind of ruin it for me.  

I have a Vector set on the way, and am switching gears to the wheel wells while I wait. I have maybe one more bench session before travelling for the holidays anyway, so there’s plenty of time for deliveries before I’m actually hung up on this.

Cheers

-J

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:12 AM

Thanks Toshi!

Quick update on the seat. 

I've just put on the gloss coat to prep for a wash, so everything looks awful, but behind that there's some issues that are going to be tricky. There's a bit of a blob of CA next to the right harness, and both harnesses have stress breaks below the bar, right at the top the seat. The right harness is also riding a little high on the bar. I really want that harness to twist, but this isn't really reading right to me yet--it was better before. The lap belts also look a little stiff at the bend on the seat walls.

It's not terrible, exactly, but it's also a bit hard to picture this really fooling anyone. I really want those belts to look strewn (in a respectful way), and held down by gravity, not super glue. 

I was hoping to wrap up the cockpit before moving on to other sub-assemblies in earnest, but maybe it's time to focus elsewhere and come back later (or not).

Cheers

-J

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, December 13, 2017 3:48 AM

Amazing work all around!  Looking forward to the finish.

Your friend, Toshi

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:24 PM

ChrisJH666

Oops

Doh!

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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 2:08 PM

Oops

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

Chris

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 1:13 PM

Thanks lawdog. 

Apparently, when I said "I’ll go back and clean that up a bit", what I meant was "take two steps back." The other morning I had a few minutes and thought "I'll just go in and knock that out..." (Spoiler alert! Bad idea!) 

As I was touching it up, I started trying to clean up an errant blob of CA, and a poorly executed repair on the support pole, and just started making things worse, eventually breaking one of the shoulder harnesses in a way that will be hard to cover. I was able to save the lap belts, so that's something.

Luckily, Ultracast seats come in twos, and I had another set of shoulder harnesses left over. Naturally I had to 'correct' the cross bar on the support, which should sit at the back of the junction fixture, not in the middle as molded. I cut it out, filed out groves, and then CA'd a length of 0.020" styrene rod. 

I should have it back to zero—except hopefully better than before—soon.

Thanks for looking.

-J

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, December 9, 2017 9:33 PM
Looking sweet Johnny. Indeed those QB engines require work. You did a nice job on it.

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Saturday, December 9, 2017 4:29 PM

Thanks Chris. Give it a go... it's really not as hard as I thought it would be.

-J

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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Saturday, December 9, 2017 2:51 PM

It's coming along really nicely. Like the shade/highlight concept. Might give it a go on one of mine. Very impressive all round

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

Chris

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Saturday, December 9, 2017 12:21 PM

templar1099: Sorry for the delay--I wasn't minding the store... thanks so much, thanks very kind of you to say.

I was hoping to make more progress, but… real life. 

 

Because the cockpit is a bit murky in the shadows, details benefit from exaggerated contrast so they don’t get lost. It’s time to pull out highlights and push shadows. For this let’s try oil paints. I have a starter set of Windsor and Newton oils. It wasn’t very expensive and should last a really long time. The one thing is, you have to be comfortable mixing colors. 

With a little color theory, it’s really not that hard. In this case, we want shades of interior green. Start with yellow. If we were going to be purists about it, we’d just add in black until we got the right shade, because that’s how Vought painted theirs, but I had mixed the original interior green per Tamiya’s instructions, with XF-3 Yellow, and XF-5 Green, so yellow and black is a bit unsaturated in comparison.  

I squeezed as little paint out of the tubes as I could, and this is way more paint than I’ll be able to use, but that’s okay. There’s a variety of shades to draw from: darker on the right, middling on the left, and highlights up top.

After brushing highlights and shadows. Basically edges and anything facing up gets highlights, and anything that would be in shadow gets a slightly darker shade. Don’t worry about matching the base color exactly—the whole reason why we’re using oils is because they’re so easy to blend. Just take a clean brush, gently brush in the base color, and the seam disappears, and you’re left with a slightly 3D effect.

Onto the seat belts. I’m using FineMolds plastic belts. You have to order them from Japan, and they’re kind of expensive ($15 for a set of four), but they are easy to shape and really detailed on both sides.

Part of my original ‘vision’ for this model was I wanted to have one of the shoulder straps twisted, and for them to generally look haphazardly left by the previous pilot. 

I’ve started weathering, and the seat is a little too scratched and the belts a little too dirty. I’ll go back and clean that up a bit.

The famous oxygen bottle in his new home. 

I had done a lovely map case with oils that goes on the side of the console in that great gaping black area, but it popped off while test fitting with back bulkhead/seat assembly and seems to have vanished. Hopefully it will turn up later, or maybe I’ll scratch a new one up.

Placards from Aeroscale really help bring life to the cockpit. 

There’s these funny protrusions sticking out on the lower left instrument panel which are meant to be connected to the throttle. I cut them off and drilled out with my new little drill press.

Later, when the main cockpit assembly is in the fuselage, I’ll fit wires in to connect to the throttle, which is attached to the sidewall.

Instrument panels on. It’s almost starting to look like something, though in the cruelty of macro photography, it looks like the IP backing film is a bit low on the left side. I glued with a couple dots of white glue, so maybe there’s a way to fix it without mangling anything.

That’s it for now, thanks for looking.

-J

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Posted by templar1099 on Saturday, November 25, 2017 12:20 PM

A great back story to a great build,one of the better wip I've seen in these forums.

"le plaisir delicieux et toujours nouveau d'une occupation inutile"

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Saturday, November 25, 2017 11:32 AM

Max, not at all. I appreciate the interest and feedback. I’m using the WIP to help me organize my own thinking, and also to invite technical input (soldering, for instance) so those comments are always welcome.

Rudy, thanks much. Semper fi.

Chris, thanks. That was (oddly) fun to do. 

-J

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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Friday, November 24, 2017 2:39 PM

Looking cool. Really impressed with the new oxygen bottle.

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

Chris

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Posted by RudyOnWheels on Friday, November 24, 2017 1:03 AM
Really enjoying following along on your build! I enjoyed the history the most tho! I'm glad you got to know your grandfather, and learn about what he did as his little part to liberate millions in the Second World War. SEMPER FI Captain Stub! What a fitting tribute to see on thanksgiving. -Rudy
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Posted by RadMax8 on Thursday, November 23, 2017 10:54 PM

John,

I should have known better. I just figured since you did the wash and all... you know what they say about assumptions Embarrassed

Good scouting report on the engines. Looking forward to my next radial now!

Max

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Thursday, November 23, 2017 2:02 PM

RadMax

Thanks. And yes, the gearbox! I should have called out that I haven't actually painted it yet—it's got glossy black for primer, and then overspray, basically, from the cylinders.

The order of events, based on my experience doing the Quickboost for the F4F is: cylinders and pushrods -> ignition ring -> detail and paint the gearbox. The harness can happen at anytime after the ring.

The reason being, adding the magneto and distributers to the gearbox makes fitting the ignition ring hard (maybe impossible, depending) and they will very likely need filling to get them to sit perfectly, so I'd have to go back and repaint anyway. 

I really like the Quickboost a lot. Because the detail trails off at the back, it's not meant to be seen from the sides, so would not be a good candidate if you intend to remove access panels, etc. Conversely, it doesn't require any surgery to get it to fit, and seen from the front it's a substantial step up from the kit parts. And if you're going to the trouble to detail and add a harness anyway—literally hours of work—adding a $10 part seems like a small cost to amplify the dividends of that labor. 

Cheers

-J

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Thursday, November 23, 2017 1:41 PM

ManCityFan, thanks so much—that's really kind of you to say. That F4F did end up taking over a year and a few tries (starting from zero), so it's not entirely fair for me to say the finished version was my first kit in 30 years, per se. At the onset it was, but by the end, maybe not so much.

And yes, he really was a character. 

-J

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Posted by RadMax8 on Thursday, November 23, 2017 9:21 AM

Looking good, John! The gloss coat phase is always a bizarre one when modeling well-used subjects, but it's worthwhile in the end!

You may want to check the color of the gearbox on the front of the engine. Those were usually painted some type of gray on these old radials. I only bring that up because everything else is so detailed!

Overall, how would you rate the quality of the Quickboost engine? I've got a couple in the stash (something you may start learning about soon haha) but I've not had a chance to work with them. I like your technique for sizing the pushrods. 

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Posted by ManCityFan on Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:39 AM

I don't know how I missed you starting this kit.  You are very fortunate to have such great information on your Grandfather.  He sounds like quite the character.

I know you said you hadn't put a kit together in 30 years until the F4F, but the level of skill is inspiring.  Thanks for posting a detailed WIP.  I will be watching with keen interest.

Dwayne or Dman or just D.  All comments are welcome on my builds. 

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Wednesday, November 22, 2017 8:47 PM

One more mini-update en route before the holiday...

Washes!  

I really hate making things glossy—it just looks wrong to me when we’re talking about a fighter plane. But I really love what washes on a glossy surface can do, so I grin and bear. That cowl ring, for instance, even with that awful glare, has so much definition now. 

This time I tried using Tamiya X22 gloss, instead of Future because I didn’t want to have to wait 24 hours to apply the wash. I let the Tamiya gloss set for a few hours, and then went in.

I’m a bit old school, I guess, in that I’m using oil paints and mineral spirits instead of purpose produced products for washes. I’m completely prepared to believe that they’re easier to use, but there’s something about concocting it yourself that appeals to me. 

The chair finally made it onto the bulkhead. There isn’t a lot of surface area on the attachment points, so I used five minute epoxy for a stronger joint. While it’s a debatable use of effort, I think the tubular framework represents the real thing a lot better, and will be at least somewhat visible in the end. This will look a lot better with highlights picked out, matte, and with seatbelt.

Sidewall. Kit detail appended with solder and stretched sprue wiring. I was going to scrape all this out and scratch build new with a little more depth and fidelity, in the case of the boxes, and a slightly lighter touch, in the case of spars, but sense got ahold of me. 

And the other side. The kit detail on the throttle box is a bit rudimentary, so I scratch built new. It’s still a little under-detailed because there should be three levers rather than just one. I might revisit. The placards are from aeroscale. I left the ejector pin mark because it will be hidden by the console. 

I’m almost ready to finally get the cockpit pulled together. At the very least, I can’t wait for everything to get back to matte. 

Happy Thanksgiving! At least, to everyone stateside… Happy Random Thursday in November! to everyone else.

Thanks for looking.

-J

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Monday, November 20, 2017 11:51 PM

Engine!

While things percolate on the cockpit, let’s start on the engine. 

The kit engine is okay, if a little spartan, so I’m using the Quickboost. First, X-1, glossy black as a primer.

Alclad aluminum. With the Wildcat, I dry brushed silver over black. This time I wanted to try getting a metallic base coat, and then use a wash to bring out the detail.

The detail on Quickboost engines are great, but the ‘quick’ part isn’t completely accurate because you have to add a few details, including the push rods, and the ignition ring and harness. None of this is all that hard, but it does take patience.

We’ll start with the push rods. 

I had pre-sprayed a length of .020 Evergreen rod XF-1. Twenty thousandths is just under a scale inch. I haven’t been able to find good dimensional drawings, but the pushrods in reference images look a little chunkier—maybe an inch and half in diameter—but .030 (1.44 inches) looks too thick to me, and I’d rather be a touch under scale than over. To get the length, I roughed in with a divider, test fit and carefully trimmed until it was right. Some of the cylinders are longer than others, but this puts me in the ballpark. Using calipers, I measured my test sample.

  

I got this tip from Paul Budzik. Basically, if you add a length of strip styrene on one side, terminating right at the blade, it makes it really easy to transfer your cut dimension to the guard. You just insert your measuring tool flush to the strip, and then slide the guard to mate on the other side, and that’s your cut dimension.

Chopping 18 perfectly sized rods is now a breeze. At the top of the photo you can see a better shot of the styrene strip.

To position, I used blu tack on a toothpick. On this build, blu tack is becoming more and more essential. Once placed, thin CA with a glue Looper locks it in, starting at the base of the gear reduction housing, because any slop will be hidden by the ignition ring. Add a little dab of CA on the underside of the push rod where it joins the cylinder block to complete. Once you get going, it doesn’t take that long to do the whole row. Happily, the bottom row doesn’t have provisions for push rods, and you’d never see them, so never mind.

Done! Handling the rods means a few touch ups, but NBD.

I have a few ideas for how to approach the ignition ring that might be interesting. I’m trying to decide between whether to represent the earlier tubular ring (as seen in the squadron portrait in the first post of this thread) or the later squared off ring. 

More soon. Thanks for looking.

-J

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Monday, November 20, 2017 11:34 PM

Thanks RadMax.

The oxygen bottle was really fun for me, even if it's a bit silly.

Once I decided the molded kit detail wouldn't do, working out how to do it better was instructive. Doing something just for the lesson is worth it to me at this point. That's an attitude i probably inherited from my grandfather so it seems appropriate to the spirit of this homage.

But you’ll kind of be able to see it—it’ll help the cockpit look busy.

-J

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Posted by RadMax8 on Monday, November 20, 2017 9:39 PM

Really working hard on a detail no one will see? Why that's called modeling! And you've taken great photos, so people do see it! 

Good to see you're having fun with the details. It's easy to get bogged down and frustrated sometimes, and at that point why do it? But you're making it look easy and enjoyable, so good on ya!

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Monday, November 20, 2017 4:12 PM

Oxygen Bottle Redux!

Apparently my sculpting skills with Milliput are a bit feeble. That, plus I wanted to play with a new toy, so I didn’t really try that hard to get the kit oxygen bottle in shape, but instead decided to start from scratch.

The material is a length of sprue.

Chucking it into a cheapo Chinese mini drill press with a file as a kludgey vertical lathe, I first turned it to get the radius I wanted…

…then used varying grit sandpaper to round the ends. For the second end, I trimmed it to a little over length and then flipped it, and chucked the round end in, just hand tightening to turn.

To drill the hole for the nozzle, I used the drill press as a drill press, with small bit carbide bits. Again, just hand tighten. That way if the bit snags, it’s less likely to break. The white stuff is a bit of an old sponge to keep the vise from damaging the soft plastic work piece. 

To make the nozzle, I used Albion aluminum tubing. I first had to drill a hole in the side of the neck part (just peeking out from under the sponge)so I could have a positive connection to the actual nozzle.

The almost finished result. The valve is just punched .005 styrene sheet, and the stem is the next size down Albion tubing. The straps are from the Eduard detail set for this kit. They're a bit big, but I really like the detail so I'm tempted to leave them on.

I need to touch up the paint, which got a little dinged while getting the straps on, but I figure it would be pretty banged up anyway if the ground crews have to regularly pull it to recharge, so I’m going to do chips and dings. This will get attached to the console when I mate it to the back bulkhead.

More soon. Thanks for looking.

-J

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 12:59 AM

Great attention to detail!

Your friend, Toshi

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 12:28 AM

Thanks RadMax, that's very kind of you to say. I'm having a lot of fun (especially the fiddly bits), and have a few ideas for subjects percolating, but it takes me a bit to turn a build around, so I have time to work it out.

I'm weirdly psyched about how they molded the bomb rack--it means I get to scratch build a Brewster bomb rack! I have a few ideas there...

I had a few minutes tonight, so here's a quick update:

That oxygen bottle was really bothering me, especially once I worked out how it is mounted in the prototype. Using a combo of J&L fine razor saw, scalpel, and a Mission Models micro chisel, I carved it out. Gruesome! The riffler file (the weirdly curved file) helped me get in that spot to smooth out the remaining surface where a straight file would've been clumsy, though I’ll probably just fit in some .005 sheet styrene and call it a day.

Ooof! Gnarly! (And naked, post Windex bath)

A bit of Milliput epoxy putty helps fill in the missing chunk. Once it’s fully set, I’ll sand it down to shape. Worst case, I’ll snip off the nozzle bit altogether, flip it over, and start over with new nozzle detailing on the other end so any misshapen bit is tucked out of the way.

It’s a stupid detail that no one will notice, but it makes me so much happier.

Thanks for looking. Onward!

-J

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Posted by RadMax8 on Monday, November 13, 2017 10:15 PM

Nice update. Boy you aren’t afraid to get fiddly, are you? That chair bracing made my eyes go cross!

Tamiya sort of mailed it in with some details on this kit. The bomb rack has solid supports, much like the chair supports. When I built mine with the bomb rack, I actually used solid wire to approximate some detail. 

Your builds are a delight. I hope you keep building after you run out of subjects associated with your grandfather. They won’t have the same great personal relevance, but if your skills are this good after two kits, imagine what you can do with a few more under your belt. 

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Monday, November 13, 2017 2:58 PM

Hello all. I got in bit more work on the cockpit this weekend. 

First up is the chair mount. As rendered by Tamiya, it’s made up of solid triangles of chunky plastic, which provides good support for the chair, but isn’t especially accurate. This is probably a bit too deep into rivet counting nerdery for most, but I was interested in the challenge. This turned out to be easier than it looks.

After first measuring the apex of the triangle—that is to say, the point furthest from the bulkhead—I cut .030 styrene rod for the mount using the Chopper II to help keep lengths consistent and also to take advantage of the angle guides. A bit of blu tack holds the parts in place while dabbing a bit Tamiya Thin to glue.

After making each triangle structure, I connect them with more rod measured to the width of the chair. (I ended up deciding to go with the Ultracast. While the Eduard seat has the most character, the Ultracast just looks the most like the real thing.)

Once it was completed, it was time for surgery on the bulkhead. (Don't mind that the bottom bar isn't quite square...)

I nibbled the chunky triangles away with sprue cutters, and then filed the remainder. This left gaping holes, with I filled with styrene chunks and CA. You won’t be able to see it once the chair’s in, but it seemed worth it to take a minute to fill. The protruding top bars are anchored in holes carefully drilled into the middle of the molded on bracing. I’ll trim them to the exact length when I mount the chair, but first I’m going to paint everything separately. If I need to, I’ll add additional support at the bottom. 

I have a reference that shows a lot of plumbing in the lower front bulkhead, which I made from small gauge electrical wire and .3mm solder. This probably isn’t really all that accurate as much as impressionistic, but it looks okay while also hiding the join with the foot trough assembly. (The PE supports help sell the trough a bit better.) 

Finally, for now, I started painting the console. It needs a little tidying up here and there, but is starting to look okay. 

I still need to add the document case on the starboard side, and I’m probably going to scratch build the manual bomb release, which goes to the left of the trim tab wheel on the port side. 

One thing that is sort of vexing is the oxygen bottle. I didn't paint it until everything else and had a really hard time masking it. Plus yellow just isn’t the easiest color to deal with. It’s also not rendered correctly, in that it’s molded into a panel on the console, where it should be strapped to the back bulkhead. I think I’m going to fix all these problems by just cutting it out, trimming the excess, adding straps and nozzle detail and then painting it on it's own at my lesiure.

That's it for now. It's almost ready for washes and weathering. Hopefully more soon.

Thanks for looking.

-J

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Tuesday, November 7, 2017 3:26 PM

Lawdog: Thanks, and thanks for the heads up about the outer wings! 

Toshi: Thanks, Toshi. Very kind.

1943Mike: Yeah, he was defnitely not someone to keep his opinions to himself. And thanks much.

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Posted by 1943Mike on Sunday, November 5, 2017 12:12 PM

Interesting bio on your grandfather. I like his forthrightness Wink.

The F4U, as for many, is my favorite fighter aircraft from the propeller age. There were many fine fighters during WWII - I like several of them a lot - but "Whistling Death" is by far the one I admire most.

You sure have a lot of moxie jumping in there to attempt all the modifications, scratch building, PE, etc. on this build. I am following with great interest.

Mike

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Posted by Toshi on Sunday, November 5, 2017 3:17 AM

Great work!

Your friend, Toshi

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, November 5, 2017 12:13 AM
This is good stuff. Thanks for the historical background too. I look forward to this. Word of caution. Add reinforcements from inside when you attach the outer wings. It’s a very weak joint. I used sheet styrene.

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Friday, November 3, 2017 1:26 PM

RadMax8: Zing! I knew I was treading into dangerous territory with that, but thanks for the encouragement anyway.

ChrisJH666: Thanks for the tip, that makes a lot of sense.

Speaking of soldering, on Pawel's suggestion I got thinner solder and solder paste. Now I just need something to solder...

Busy work + gnarly cold = slow progress. But I did manage to get some stuff in over the past week or so. 

Uncle Eduard helped fill in a lot of missing or poorly formed detail in the cockpit. 

The elevator tab wheel (at least I think that’s what it is) seems over scale, so I tried scratch building something a little smaller with punched styrene discs and a bit of lead wire. I’m going to try to smooth everything out with Mr Surfacer. 

I really like the detail on the Eduard instrument panel. It’s not super accurate for a Corsair, which had a relatively featureless IP, but I think I’m okay with that.

The base coat is Tamiya XF-69, NATO black, followed by Tamiya X-22 clear. Once that dried a bit, I did black oil wash around the bezels and a medium grey wash to pull out fastener detail. I still need to pick out buttons and add placards, etc.

Sitting on the ‘film’ with the actual instruments (don't mind the secondary panel, which isn't quite lined up). I need to clean it up a little, but this just might work.

That's all's I got. Hopefully I'll sneak down a bit this weekend. I still have to figure out the seat mount, and which seat, if any of those, I'm going to use, and then I can start pulling the cockpit together. 

Thanks for looking!

-J

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Posted by ChrisJH666 on Saturday, October 28, 2017 8:35 PM

With etched brass, what I do is use very fine wet-&-dry paper to rub over both sides of the etched sheet before components are removed so that all traces of tarnish or coatings is removed. This gives a far better clean key for the solder. Works like a charm without the need for wiping with nasty chemicals. Well, works for me anyway

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

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Posted by RadMax8 on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 9:55 PM

Johnny,

As a professional welding engineer by day (for now, anyway), I cannot condone your fast and loose use of the word “welding”, however as a rank amateur modeler, I can certainly appreciate the skill required to solder the PE together. So all is forgiven! Ha!

Looks great. Keep up the good work!

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Wednesday, October 25, 2017 10:02 AM

Great point.

I forgot to mention I actually did wipe down with acetone first. Scrubbing with 90% IA may have been been better... but yes, proper cleaning the surface to be soldered is important. 

Thanks

-J

 

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Posted by KnightTemplar5150 on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 4:04 PM

Thought that it might be worth mentioning that brass is commonly treated with either oil or an anti-corrosion compound to keep it shiny and appealing to consumers. Solder will never flow properly into a joint properly if this stuff is not removed and it normally results in excessive amounts of solder being applied, pitting, and "cold" joints that are weak. As a jeweler, I give brass parts a bath in a heated pickling solution to remove the antioxidants, but while I worked in military aerospace electronics, 90% isopropyl alcohol was  commonly used with an acid brush to scrub off the film prior to soldering. A strong degreaser, such as Purple Power, can also be used.Once the brass is cleaned, soldering becomes pretty easy to do and things flow a lot easier, so you can avoid having to file off excess solder.

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Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 3:03 PM

Yeah, you shoulda called for me! Big Smile

Keep up the great work!

Paweł

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 2:44 PM

Thanks Pawel, as always, great advice. Check references, always.

And where were you the other day when I was goofing around with a soldering iron? Am checking out both solder paste and thinner solder. 

Cheers

-J

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Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 1:43 PM

Hello Johnny!

Nice try wit that soldering! One thing to watch for - Eduard isn't all-knowing neither, and theit sets, although generally good, very often have errors, too. As always, you have to back up everything with your own research. That piece with those three holes, where the seat back meats the seat base looks way off in comparison with the two parts, but that might be some other variant - without lots of research you never know.

Did you try to soften the brass for bending? When you have "gentle" bends, it's good to do this. Just hold the part to be worked with to a flame (a Zippo will do) until it gets red-hot, then let cool slowly. You'll note that the part will get much softer, much nicer to work with.

As for soldering - try getting thiner soldering wire. Not only will it help you with the solder excess - so less sanding, it also has more flux proportionally, and the best - you can use that wire for making hydraulic lines and stuff like that.

You might also consider soldering paste - it is used for so called reflow soldering. The paste is flux mixed with powdered solder. You put the paste between two surfaces to be soldered and heat everything to about 300 Celsius. The paste melts and then bonds the soldered surfaces together - no runs, no nonsense.

Good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 12:23 PM

ChrisJH666: Thanks, and I'm excited to see your RNZAF build. The contributions of our Kiwi friends in turning the tide in the South Pacific are all too often neglected.

bvallot: Too many goodies. :)  Agreed about the cowl ring. And yes, those ribs are way overscale. I've kind of thought about scratch building more appropriately scaled ribs but getting 18 consistant enough seems like a huge project. I could try casting, I guess. Or home photoetching... hmmm. Maybe if I just disregard the cross brace?

(And yes, I have Quickbook exahust pipes.)

Toshi: Thanks Toshi. I know you're a real Corsair buff, so I'll try not to dissapoint. 

Jay Jay: Thanks. I've been so inspired and learned so much from the crew here,  it only seems fair. I'm just fumbling through, so take what I have to say for what it's worth!

 

The seat on a real Corsair was basically just a metal bucket—the pilot sat on his parachute for a “cushion.” So it follows that photo etched brass would make the basis for a reasonable facsimile. I have the kit seat, of course, and an Ultracast resin version, but let’s see how the seat from the Eduard PE set builds out, while trying a new (to me) technique at the same time.

Materials: iron, flux, solder, extra hands, and something to solder.

I’ve done a bit of electronics soldering, but this is my first go with something like this. I was intimidated to try soldering precisely enough for modeling, but I did a couple experiments (and have a backup plan), so decided to give it a go. 

First we need to cut out and form the part. A quick remedial for those who are new to working with photoetch (looking in the mirror, here). A firm surface—acetate, in this case—and a curved blade help us avoid deforming the part while cutting. 

Flat pliers help hold the part in place while filing off the fret stubs with a fine file.

A bending tool can help make precise bends with small parts. This is The BUG (not sure why it’s all caps, but that’s what they call it) but they all seem to work similarly. I got it because it was the cheapest all metal design I could find. 

Slip the part to be folded in an appropriate cut out, lock down, and then slide a razor blade under and gently fold up. Easy peasy.

Do the other side the same way. (With complex shapes, think through the folds first, so you don’t fold yourself into a corner.)

And finally fold up the seat by hand. The seat needs a curve formed into the end to match the curve of the sides. I used a dowel as a guide. In the process I broke off the bottom. It’s not a big deal, but makes the first soldering step a bit trickier.

Soldering!

The principal is simple enough: heat the pieces to be joined enough that they melt the solder, creating a 'welded' (nerd alert: what’s actually happening is ‘intermetallic bonding’) joint. Don’t try to melt the solder directly with the iron, because unless the parts being joined are hot enough, the solder won’t dissolve in the base and there won’t be a strong join. 

There’s a bunch of ways this could go sideways, and I’m sure I’ll find most of them. 

First, dab on a bit of flux where you want the solder to flow. The solder I’m using happens to be rosin core, which is usually enough flux for electronics work, but we can’t depend on that to guide the solder for this. 

The solder escaped a bit. Bugger! But I can sand this down and it will be fine. I couldn’t get the parts aligned with the helping hands, so the seat bottom rests on the second hand, and then I’m pushing it into place with a toothpick and a bit a blue tack. (You’d think the blue tack would melt, but it was fine.)

Continue with the sides, and soon enough, voila…  a seat!  The nice thing about solder is that it’s file/sandable. You don’t want to leave giant globs, but if it’s a bit messy, you can clean it up. I still have to add the cross panel, but my Jedi soldering skills aren’t quite there yet for fine work, so I’m going to attach with CA.

L to R: kit seat, the brass seat, and the Ultracast. 

The kit seat is out. It looks like an industrial, padded barkalounger. 

This isn’t a great shot of the Ultracast, but I’m not feeling it yet. The detail is a bit mushy. That top bar (omitted from the kit, and needs to be addressed regardless) is a bit droopy, which doesn’t give much confidence in protecting poor Captain Stub on his mission (and if he doesn't come back, that would change the whole course of history, making my eventual appearance much less likely!).  

I haven’t completely decided, but I’m leaning toward the Eduard at the moment. There’s a slight misalignment on the cross panel—riding a touch high on the left, operator error—but I’m pretty sure I can hide that with an artfully placed seatbelt.

One interesting thing to note: the kit seat is 16 scale inches wide, the Ultracast 17”, and the Eduard 18”. Later, I gently squeezed the brass, slightly increasing the radius in the seat back and got it down to 17 scale inches. Does anyone know what the width of a standard US aircraft bucket seat actually was?

That’s it for now. Thanks for looking.

-J

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Posted by Jay Jay on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:52 AM

I'm totaly impressed with your ability to super detail these kits, something I want to do on all my models as well.  TY for the inspiration and how-to.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Toshi on Monday, October 23, 2017 7:48 PM

Great historical connection.  That is just amazing!  I really love what you’re doing with the Corsair, fantastic scratch building.  Keep up the good work, I’ll be definitely following your WIP.

Toshi

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Posted by bvallot on Monday, October 23, 2017 5:30 PM

Johnny that looks like a big bag of goodies right there!! =] I think every Tamiya Corsair ought to come with that cowling ring set from Vector. That's the first time I had even heard of them was when I was looking up AM stuff for my Boyington Corsair I did a while back. I ended up doing the same thing too. I didn't see that they grouped up until after. Although, at 1:48 I don't think it will quite appear as such possibly due to the fact that the mounts are a tad bit oversized. Even at 1:32 they don't quite seem like they do on the real thing. Still, it's an upgrade to a terribly overlooked part of the aircraft. Nobody gives any love to the engine interior...not even on radial engines...? Anyhow, ought to be a fun build to watch. That Quickboost engine is a nice addtion too. You'll like it. Any plans on doing something about the exhaust?

Looking forward to seeing what you come up with. =]

On the bench:  

Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

  • Member since
    January 2004
  • From: Brisbane Australia
Posted by ChrisJH666 on Monday, October 23, 2017 2:53 PM

This is looking like a really great build! Very impressive so far, and I love the personal history aspect. Definitely be keeping an eye on your posts for when I get around to doing an RNZAF example

In the queue: 1/48 Beech Staggerwing (RAAF), P38 (RAAF), Vultee Vengeance (RAAF), Spitfire Vb (Malta), Spitfire VIII x2 (RAAF), P39 x2 (RAAF), Martin Baltimore (Malta?), Martin Maryland (Malta), Typhoon NF1b, Hellcat x2 (FAA)

 

Chris

  • Member since
    July 2016
  • From: NYC
Posted by Johnny1000 on Monday, October 23, 2017 5:21 AM

RadMax8: thanks! And yeah, he was a bit of a wit. 

Pawel: thanks, my friend. Appreciate it.  

7474: me too!

ridleusmc: that's kind of the best part, right?

MrStecks: great, thanks!

  • Member since
    May 2017
  • From: Denver, Colorado
Posted by MrStecks on Sunday, October 22, 2017 11:41 PM

Wow, great looking build so far and a great historical family connection.  That's awesome.  Thanks for sharing the history, and posting this WIP.  I'll be following.

Cheers, Mark


On the bench:  Revel 1/48 B-25J Mitchell

In the queue: Tamiya 1/48 F4U-1A Corsair

  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posted by ridleusmc on Sunday, October 22, 2017 11:08 PM

I love the history and scratchbuilding with this one.  

  • Member since
    December 2002
Posted by 7474 on Sunday, October 22, 2017 7:05 PM
Great start, I’ Looking forward to seeing the finished model.
  • Member since
    May 2009
  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Sunday, October 22, 2017 3:03 PM

Hello Johnny!

Good to see you doing a WIP again! For me, modelling is so much better when you can mix it with some real history! And that's what you are doing now, cool! Good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

  • Member since
    February 2005
  • From: Cleveland, OH
Posted by RadMax8 on Sunday, October 22, 2017 2:55 PM

You know, for you limited modeling experience, you're damn good. Add to that a wonderful personal connection and history, and you've got quite the build log going. I enjoyed the Wildcat, and I'm sure I'm going to love the Corsair. I've got two of those planes in my case.

Your grandpa really threw some serious flak to the Navy! Pretty darn funny...

  • Member since
    July 2016
  • From: NYC
Posted by Johnny1000 on Sunday, October 22, 2017 2:19 PM

“It was a wonderful weapon and we were delighted to get it” 

I’ll start with the cowling, like everyone else does*

* apologies to chukw  

The kit cowl flaps are fine, but Corsair cowl flaps splay obscenely open, so we should get in up in there. Vector has a lovely resin set which also includes a cowl ring with ribbing detail.

The first thing is to cut the ring from the pour stub, which connects to the front of the ring. I used a Dremel with a cut off wheel for this, then a grinding bit to clear out the middle, sneaking up on the edges. 

Now we need to get to round. A broom handle was about the right diameter.

Twisting on the sandpaper wrapped around got me pretty close. 

To line up the ribs, I made a template with an illustration program and printed it out. Blue Tack holds the ring to the template, and then more Blue Tack on the end of toothpick holds the part in place, while sill more Blue Tack holds the toothpick in place. This way, I can line up the parts just how I want them, and then daub a drop of thin CA via capillary action to lock down. One you get going, it’s pretty quick to work your way around.

And here it is. Despite my best attempt, they still aren’t perfectly straight. On closer, if belated, examination of my references, they should also be kind of grouped in twos. These aren't super noticable, more to give the impression of more engineering than anything, so once they're painted and tucked behind the reduction housing, it’ll be fine.

Adding the actuator hardware to the cowl ring is slightly different: BlueTack again holds the part in place, this time so the part being glued can lay flat. A tiny daub regular CA on the actuator and then drop into position, with a few seconds for tweaks.

After all the actuators are in place, we need to thread in the actual cable. Fine wire left over from an electronics project came in handy, but you could use anything. Old computer cables from obsolete standards—firewire 1, SCSI, etc—are useful here. If you don’t happen to have, you almost certainly know someone with a box of unusable cables.

I need to go back a get a few of these a little straighter. Once they aren’t glimmering silver the flaws should be a little less noticeable.

While we’re at it (procrastinating on starting the cockpit, that is!), let’s chop up the rudder so it can sit at a nice angle.

  

A JLC razor saw makes quick work of it with minimal collateral damage.

I also cut out the trim tab so I can give that a little nudge over as well. In scraping out the molded trim actuator, which is going to get replaced later, I overshot a bit. Yikes! But not to worry...

Gently sand down with assorted Micro Mesh Swabs, then fill with Mr Surfacer 500. Let that sit a few minutes, and then wipe across with a q-tip dipped in Mr Color Thinner, and sand again. The Mr Color Thinner is really mild, and won’t melt the plastic (as least, not right away).

I glued the rudder halves together, and then used oversized .020 and .010 sheet styrene from Evergreen to cover. Later, I’ll trim down and sand in the curved front shape. 

That’s it for now. Thanks for looking.

-J

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