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  • From: Winter Park, FL
B-17C/D W.I.P. ...
Posted by fotofrank on Wednesday, November 08, 2017 12:09 PM

I guess this is the build log to go along with the white metal thread. Shot the zinc chromate earlier today. The instructions called for interior green as well as green zinc chromate. Since everything will pretty much be hidden after the fuselage is closed up, I opted for just chromate green. I did detail the flight deck and the navigator/bombardier station. I guess some of it will be visible when it's all said and done. I haven't reached the final decision point yet. The finished model could be a NMF B-17C or the O.D. and gray "Mary Ann." Here's some pictures of the build so far:

The fuselage interior. I painted all of the little windows black on the inside. Can't see through them anyway.

Left wing interior.


Right wing interior.


Crew area. That's a lot of detail that's going to be hidden from view.


Flight deck rear bulkhead.



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Posted by fotofrank on Wednesday, November 08, 2017 12:15 PM

I'm also building a couple of Monogram 1/72 P-36's to go with this B-17.

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, November 08, 2017 12:40 PM

How big is that Convair kit?

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Posted by fotofrank on Wednesday, November 08, 2017 12:53 PM

Convair? I think you mean Boeing. When finished, wing span approx. 17-1/2 inches, fuselage length approx. 11-1/4 inches.

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, November 08, 2017 1:13 PM

Oops!my bad!One large model!

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Posted by fotofrank on Wednesday, November 08, 2017 1:44 PM

Yeah, any bigger and I'd have to put an addition on the house!

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, November 08, 2017 2:17 PM

Yes I hear you!I just built a Revell 1/48 B-17G and it is a very large model indeed!

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Posted by fotofrank on Wednesday, November 08, 2017 2:25 PM

Yeah, that kit is in the pipeline after a couple of others.

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, November 08, 2017 4:10 PM

It is a good kit.Couple of things to watch out for:when you put the wings on it does require a good amount of force when sliding them forward. I tell ya,The snap was so loud I thought that I broke something but it was fine.I also recommend that you mask off the top turret opening prior to painting.The fit is tight and I had to shave the opening a bit to allow it to lock into place.Engineering is good and the turrets turn and the guns elevate and depress.

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Posted by fotofrank on Friday, November 10, 2017 8:05 AM

Buttoning up the fuselage of the B-17 yesterday and today. More pictures soon.

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Posted by fotofrank on Sunday, November 12, 2017 10:15 AM

Finished closing up the fuselage yesterday. Had to use some body putty on the seams. No matter how hard I try, I can never get the fuselage halves to line up perfectly. The last two center-line windows on the nose will have to wait until I finish sanding the seam on the nose, then they can go in. In the background is a Monogram 1/72 P-36A to be parked along side the B-17, I guess as a scale reference. I've decided to do them both in natural metal finish instead of camoflage. Mary Ann will come next. I have another P-36A for that build that will be done up in Pearl Harbor marking.


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Posted by route62 on Sunday, November 12, 2017 8:28 PM

Have you decided to finish this in NMF?  As you know I am working on an F-86 NMF and am at the polishing the gloss black stage.  I plan to shoot the first metal coat later this week.  I will bring it in on the next build day so you can see the progress and NMF finish in person to help you decide on your B-17.

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, November 12, 2017 8:52 PM

I assume this is the Academy Colin Kelly kit?

I'd vote NMF, plus silver dope of course on the control surfaces.

I bought one of those a long time ago in a bigger project to build a Boeing 307 but lost interest in aircraft models about that time.

 

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Posted by fotofrank on Sunday, November 12, 2017 9:15 PM

No, this isn't the Colin Kelly kit. The marking I'll be using are from the Italeri B-17 kit that has markings for seven different airplanes, including the Mary Ann. When it's finished, it will be an NMF B-17C, Material Division, Wright Field, January 1941, according to the box art. I know that the Academy kit and the Italeri kit are the same kits.

This is a picture of the actual airplane. It appears to be unarmed so my model won't have any guns. I hope to enlist Route62's help when painting commences to make sure I do the NMF correctly. He's doing an NMF F-86 right now. To add to the painting adventure, I'm going to attempt to paint the rudder red, white and blue instead of using the supplied decal. Should be fun.

When this B-17 is complete, I'll start on the next one and it will be completed as the movie star Mary Ann.

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Posted by the Baron on Monday, November 13, 2017 12:32 PM

GMorrison

I assume this is the Academy Colin Kelly kit?...

I was about to ask the same question, GM, particularly about the make.  Frank, is this an Academy kit, whatever the kit markings?

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

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Posted by fotofrank on Monday, November 13, 2017 12:53 PM

Yeah, Baron, it's the Academy kit. This is the one I am building right now:

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This is the kit I'm getting the decals from:

I'm familiar with the Colin Kelly B-17 kit but I've never seen one. The instructions in this Academy kit appear to be in Korean.

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Airplanes D and F are the ones that I am going to build.

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Posted by Toshi on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 1:23 AM

Fantastic work thus far.  I’ll be following along.

Your friend, Toshi

 

Retired due to work related injury

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

ON THE BENCH:

Revell B-17G Flying Fortress 

NEXT BUILD:

Mrs. Toshi just purchased for me a Tamiya 1/48 Ki-61 via eBay, when it arrives, as always, I’ll do a WIP.  Thanks to M.Brindos and Model Maniac for the heads up and the inspiration in obtaining this kit for my next build.

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  • From: North Pole, Alaska
Posted by richs26 on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 1:48 AM

Frank, your MD 105 is actually a B model which prototyped the gun positions at Wright Field for the new C/D models and the revamping of the B models.  As I mentioned before, the bubble is on the right side denoting a B.  Italeri has not done much research for accuracy as the boxart shows a B model in British markings when the British received C models with the bubble being on the center line of the cockpit.  Another faux paux is that Mary Ann is a B model as I noted earlier.  One other one is the G example said to be at March Field, January 1941.  That is totally bogus because during  the winter of 40/41, it belonged to the Cold Weather Test Detachment (CWTD) at Ladd Field, Fairbanks, Alaska painted in Mandarin Red.  On June 4th, 1942, it was sent to Kodiak in preparation for the defense of Alaska from the Japanese.  It performed bombing missions over Attu and Kiska, until it crashed returning from a weather mission on July 18, 1942.    

WIP:  Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 73rd BS B-26, 40-1408, torpedo bomber attempt on Ryujo

Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 22nd BG B-26, 7-Mile Drome, New Guinea

Minicraft 1/72 B-24D as LB-30, AL-613, "Tough Boy", 28th Composite Group

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 3:14 PM

Cool, thanks, Frank!

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

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Posted by fotofrank on Friday, November 17, 2017 12:01 PM

Build day tomorrow at the hobby shop. I'm taking my B-17C and one of the P-36A's with me to work on and get recommendations for the natural metal finish for both airplanes.

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