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ICM 1/48 Dornier Do215B-5 Complete

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ICM 1/48 Dornier Do215B-5 Complete
Posted by Aggieman on Monday, September 10, 2018 12:33 PM

The 10th entry in my Year of the Axis build is a not-so-well-known nightfighter from ICM, Dornier's Do215B-5.

I took some time away from the bench since completing the Japanese Irving, and started work on this build September 1.  Pretty quick to completion even for me, coming to the finish line a week later, with probably 85% of the work done on September 1 and the last two days.

This was my first ICM kit.  When this kit was first released in about 2014, I had been looking for a Do17Z-2 (Battle of Britain veteran).  I honestly didn't know much about the 215, but I knew the Do215B-4 (the first variant ICM released) was not the BoB bomber. I opted for the nightfighter variant given that I wanted that glass nosed Do17Z-2 (that has subsequently joined my stash as well).

So my experience with the ICM kit is not terrible, but also not great.  I think the panel lines are a smidge too deep.  Fit is pretty good overall, although the nacelles are not good.  Yes, they are well-detailed but I had a lot of problems getting the forward nacelle (the chin, if you will) aligned properly.  Consequently there is a noticable seam there that I was unable to completely disappear with putty, sanding and scraping. 

Detail is quite good, though.  The cockpit is full of stuff, and surprisingly, a lot of it is quite visible through that huge, crystal clear canopy.  The kit includes two complete engines that appear pretty well detailed, although I doubt one could do much scratch building additions and still get the cowling covers to fit properly.  The bomb bay is full of details like bomb racks and what I think was a huge fuel tank, but since this is a nightfighter, I opted to close all of that up.

The kit instructions have some problems, most notably in paint callouts but also in simply not indicating where some of the parts actually go.

There is a whole lot of crystal clear "glass" included on this kit, parts that are not intended for this build, etc.  The underside has a part where there is a "bulb" that juts out from the underside surface; this "bulb", probably a bomb sight, is not part of the variant that I built.  Not sure I understand why the part was molded with the "bulb" - but to arrive at some form of accuracy, I had to remove the "bulb".  I drilled out that offending portion then carved the remnants away.  Finally, I glued a piece of sheet styrene to the interior of the clear part (which was to be painted over), and then filled in the carved away opening with infrared glue until it was mostly smooth.  My work on fixing this was okay, but not as smooth as I would have liked.

Revell re-released this kit that included a gun emplacement mounted to the underside (near where that "bulb" was).  This is not in the ICM kit.  I never could get a definitive answer as to whether the B-5 actually carried this gun emplacement, but I did find a photograph of what was identified as a B-5 with exactly that emplacement.  Probably a miss on ICM's part.

Finally, my build is missing one key feature - the radar arrays.  The kit pieces are too scale-thick, so I opted to purchase the Eduard PE set.  The PE set has you take the kit piece and remove the arms where the radar prongs are attached. I did this for one and was not particularly happy with the result.  The prongs were not correctly aligned straight up-and-down, but it was not obvious to the naked eye.  So I moved on to the second and did the surgery, and that's when all hell broke loose.  The PE parts broke.  After I recovered from that, I attempted to re-assemble the original kit pieces, but yeah, that went over about as well as ACC referees attempting to call a football going out at the 3-yard-line (controversial call in the Clemson-Texas A&M football game Saturday night).  In short, I was unable to re-assemble the kit parts to any degree of visual acceptability, so I opted to call the build complete with the idea that perhaps the Do215B-5 was undergoing some kind of maintenance on those radar arrays (and therefore the ground crew had to take them off the airframe).  Sounds good to me, and keeps me from banging my head against the wall over maddening PE parts.

I used Vallejo acrylics for all the exterior painting.  The interior is a mix of Vallejo, Tamiya and Model Master.  I used MIG washes on the exterior along with some Tamiya weathering compound and ground pastels.  Finally, I used a p-Mask set for the markings on this build.  Of the masks that I used on this, they worked real well, and unlike my recent experience with Montex Masks, these did not leave any residue on clear parts.  The large Balkenkreuzs that are on the wing undersides, however, were poorly formed masks, which would have left extraneous color where it should not have been.  I opted to use the kit decals for those markings.  The decals were actually quite good for this kit.

Exterior colors are RLM 76 underside, with RLM 74 + RLM 75 topside.

On to the build photos:

I'm pretty disappointed in my efforts on this kit.  It looks okay, yes, but the MIG wash seems a bit over-done, and the RLM 74 + RLM 75 doesn't really seem to be different colors unless you actually look upclose at it. 

Next up - a 51-year-old kit, Monogram's original Bf 110E in 1/72 scale.

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Posted by keavdog on Monday, September 10, 2018 2:53 PM

Looks Great!  Like a do-17 without the radial engines... and there's just something about a bomber with fenders.  Classic airframe.  Nice job.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Monday, September 10, 2018 5:33 PM

That’s a smart looking build you’ve got there! ICM has really filled an empty market lately with all their 1/48 Luftwaffe bombers.

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/48 GWH Fw 189 A-1 Nachtjager

On deck: 1/48 Bronco IF-17

In the hole: Who knows!  

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Posted by Rambo on Monday, September 10, 2018 7:44 PM
That's a nice build, do you know if all the night fighter versions of this aircraft had the radar equipped to begin with?

Clint

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, September 10, 2018 7:55 PM

That's very cool. Flying Pencil as a fighter.

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, September 10, 2018 8:19 PM
Nice! Despite your issues it turned out great. I have the BOB Z version in the stash so now I know what to expect.

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by waikong on Monday, September 10, 2018 8:37 PM

 I really like this build and your scheme, agree about the wash.  But isn't that enamel based and if you painted with acrylic underneath, a little thinner can remove  some of that wash.  or you can overspray with a very light over coat of the base colors?  But sometimes done is done right? and move on the next project!  still a good build.

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Posted by RadMax8 on Monday, September 10, 2018 10:04 PM

Very interesting aircraft. And very interesting to hear that the ICM decals were usable, let alone good. The ones I’ve seen were like paper, but that was on old kits like their P-51s. Nice, quick work. 

What do you think was the root cause of your upper colors looking so similar? Was it the paint itself, or a technique you used to apply it?

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Posted by Aggieman on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:10 AM

keavdog

Looks Great!  Like a do-17 without the radial engines... and there's just something about a bomber with fenders.  Classic airframe.  Nice job.

 

Thanks John!  

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Posted by Aggieman on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:12 AM

Mopar Madness

That’s a smart looking build you’ve got there! ICM has really filled an empty market lately with all their 1/48 Luftwaffe bombers.

 

Thanks Chad!  How about that magical football the other night, the one that can just move a bit to the right despite the laws of physics and simple geometry and curve into the end zone?  

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Posted by Aggieman on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:14 AM

Rambo
That's a nice build, do you know if all the night fighter versions of this aircraft had the radar equipped to begin with?
 

Thanks Clint!  I found a few period photos of this variant, and all included the radar arrays that are missing from my build.  They also all included the ventral gun emplacement that is missing from the ICM kit.

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Posted by Aggieman on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:15 AM

GMorrison

That's very cool. Flying Pencil as a fighter.

 

 

Thanks GMorrison!  That's pretty much what made me pick this kit up, as I had wanted the bomber Do17Z-2 and already had a Do217E-5 bomber.

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Posted by Aggieman on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:18 AM

lawdog114
Nice! Despite your issues it turned out great. I have the BOB Z version in the stash so now I know what to expect.
 

Thanks Lawdog!  I expect that Z-2 variant to be very similar.  The Do17Z-2 had radial engines, so it's possible that kit won't present the same issues I faced on this one with inline engines.  The problem likely stemmed from the flaps inside the intakes on my build.  But I'll certainly take more time to dry fit all of it prior to opening up the glue bottle.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:18 AM

Nice subject you don't see very often. I like the look of it despite the issues.

''I am a Norfolk man, and i glory in being so''

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Phantom FG.1

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Posted by Aggieman on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:20 AM

waikong

 I really like this build and your scheme, agree about the wash.  But isn't that enamel based and if you painted with acrylic underneath, a little thinner can remove  some of that wash.  or you can overspray with a very light over coat of the base colors?  But sometimes done is done right? and move on the next project!  still a good build.

 

Thanks Waikong! 

Yes, the MIG wash is enamel, and of course the Vallejo paint is acrylic.  Done is done is oftentimes the motto that I live by, although typically it takes me far longer to get to that stage.  I don't know why I felt so rushed to get this kit done - it's not like I am on a deadline or anything!

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Posted by Aggieman on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:22 AM

RadMax8

Very interesting aircraft. And very interesting to hear that the ICM decals were usable, let alone good. The ones I’ve seen were like paper, but that was on old kits like their P-51s. Nice, quick work. 

What do you think was the root cause of your upper colors looking so similar? Was it the paint itself, or a technique you used to apply it?

 

Thanks Radmax8!  

Yes, the decals were of good quality.  I had read that the ICM decals of older releases were typically not very good, so I approached them with some level of caution that turned out to be unwarranted.

As for the paint, I have no idea.  In the bottle they looked quite dissimilar.  Perhaps I didn't shake them sufficiently? 

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Posted by Aggieman on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:23 AM

Bish

Nice subject you don't see very often. I like the look of it despite the issues.

 

Thanks Bish!

I'm sure that I knew of this aircraft's existence, but it's not one that I had ever thought of when thinking of Dornier warbirds (Flying Pencil and the Do335 would be what I'd always think of).

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:44 AM

Aggieman

 

 
Bish

Nice subject you don't see very often. I like the look of it despite the issues.

 

 

 

Thanks Bish!

 

I'm sure that I knew of this aircraft's existence, but it's not one that I had ever thought of when thinking of Dornier warbirds (Flying Pencil and the Do335 would be what I'd always think of).

 

I know, its not one that springs to mind. ICM also does this in 72nd, i think i might have to get one of those.

''I am a Norfolk man, and i glory in being so''

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Phantom FG.1

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Posted by hogfanfs on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:14 AM

Aggie, 

To me it looks quite good. Very interesting aircraft. 

 Bruce

 

 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:28 AM

I can't get over the start to finish times. Amazing results for such a quick build. Something like this would take me dang near a year to complete.

 

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Posted by Aggieman on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 3:08 PM

hogfanfs

Aggie, 

To me it looks quite good. Very interesting aircraft. 

 

Thanks hogfans!

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Posted by Aggieman on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 3:11 PM

mustang1989

I can't get over the start to finish times. Amazing results for such a quick build. Something like this would take me dang near a year to complete.

 

Thanks for your kind words, Mustang!

I am actually surprised that I knocked this one so quickly.  Literally started work on September 1, worked a few hours on September 2, then during the week maybe put in a grand total of an hour's worth of work, and finally, when my girls all left for a weekend camping trip (how convenient), I had the place to myself and nothing but free time.  No tickets to last weekend's A&M game, but lots of time at the work bench watching all the earlier games on the TV I keep in my workshop.  Then after church on Sunday I wrapped everything up.  

I've done builds quickly in the past, but never over the course of essentially 5 days, especially not a build of this scale and with this many parts.

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 3:37 PM

Aggieman
 
Mopar Madness

That’s a smart looking build you’ve got there! ICM has really filled an empty market lately with all their 1/48 Luftwaffe bombers.

 

 

 

Thanks Chad!  How about that magical football the other night, the one that can just move a bit to the right despite the laws of physics and simple geometry and curve into the end zone?  

 

 

Ugh... that one hurt! 

Chad

God, Family, Models...

At the plate: 1/48 GWH Fw 189 A-1 Nachtjager

On deck: 1/48 Bronco IF-17

In the hole: Who knows!  

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