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Old (1964)vintage Monogram 1/48 P-38

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Old (1964)vintage Monogram 1/48 P-38
Posted by philo426 on Monday, May 06, 2019 3:51 PM

Lots of clampage required and body work ahead!  

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Posted by BrandonK on Monday, May 06, 2019 4:27 PM

This should be interesting. I have thought about picking one of these up, but all the horror stories I've heard keeps me from doing it. I'll decide after I've watched you work through it.

BK

On the bench: 1/72 Meng F-102A Case XX

1/48 Pro-Modeller SB2C-4 Helldiver

1/25 MPC Deserter GMC 4x4.   Back on the bench.

On Deck: 1/48 Italeri Tornado IDS "Black Panthers"

1/48 Hasegawa P-38J Lightining

 

 

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Posted by fotofrank on Monday, May 06, 2019 4:33 PM

I like your workbench, philo. It looks lived in.

OK. On the bench:

Way too much to build in one lifetime...

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, May 06, 2019 4:36 PM

I know but when I clean it up I can't find anything!I built this kit in the seventies and it will require extensive body work.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Monday, May 06, 2019 7:08 PM

I have built that model twice. All I can say is "good luck". I could never get the booms to be in correct alaignment. Plus the model has hundreds of out of scale, raised rivets. It's just a poorly engineered model. The HobbyBoss P-38 resolves all of the Monogram problems. It will be interesting to see how you deal with that model's problems.

EDIT: I have nothing against the older Monogram/Revell kits. I think that the B-17, B-29 and B-24 are really nice models. They require a little work, but the final results are really nice. The P-38 is just a really frustrating build. I just do not understand why the booms are seperate from the front wing/fusalage. Good luck. Maybe you will be able to solve that model's problems.

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, May 06, 2019 7:19 PM

Yep expect difficulties.

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Posted by Kilo 66 on Monday, May 06, 2019 9:38 PM

 The venerable kit can produce a very nice, accurate result but be prepared to exercise all your fit-and-finish skills, on a minute to minute basis. I have built three and all were exercises in frustration. I made the last one an in-flight display, to avoid having to deal with the horrible fit of the gun bay fiddly bits and the cavernous empty main gear bays. The seperate canopy parts were so ill-fitting that I resorted to a single-piece Squadron vacformed canopy. Best of luck to you, amigo.

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Posted by philo426 on Monday, May 06, 2019 9:44 PM

Yes I have heard that the canopy is problematic.

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, May 07, 2019 12:01 PM

Took Off the clamps putty  .  

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, May 08, 2019 10:05 AM

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, May 08, 2019 10:05 AM

Seam checker paint indicates the putty did it's job.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Wednesday, May 08, 2019 10:26 AM

You got me, what is that white stuff?

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, May 08, 2019 11:02 AM

Just some random paint I use to confirm the seams were filled .When completed I will shoot a coat of gray primer and paint the Olive Drab.

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Posted by Tomcat on Wednesday, May 08, 2019 6:43 PM

I built this kit when I was a teenager, 40+ years ago and yeah I remember it being difficult. Back in those days, a sucessful build was not having any finger prints in the paint and having the decals stick! Big Smile Good luck. Can't wait to see how she turns out. 

Mark aka Tomcat

On the workbench: Monogram 1/48 P-39 Airacobra, Monogram 1/48 F-5F Aggressor, AMT Enterprise 1701A (shelf of Doom GB), Lindberg 1/64 He-111

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Posted by Tosh on Wednesday, May 08, 2019 6:56 PM

This kit was built three years ago and I gave it as a gift to my Therapist.  It was challenging but I persevered.  Good luck and your P38  looks really great!

Your Friend, Toshi

 

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At work with my grandson Ezra, building a Bandai 1/144 X-Wing Starfighter and a Y-Wing Starfighter.

 

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Posted by philo426 on Wednesday, May 08, 2019 7:22 PM

Thanks Tosh!

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Posted by murph on Thursday, May 09, 2019 6:37 AM

philo426

Yes I have heard that the canopy is problematic.

Yup.  Horrendous fit.  Do yourself a favour.  Get an aftermarket replacement.  I got one from Squadron and it fit like a charm.  I see you've found the seam devil.  In my build, there wasn't one seam that didn't need work.  I used a lot of shims to fill 1/16" gaps (booms to underside of wing) and Testor's Clear Pastic Cement as fillers.  Worked not too badly.  The nose gun doors...well good luck with them.

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Posted by Tickmagnet on Thursday, May 09, 2019 7:34 AM

I jumped right into the Revell Monogram models when I got back into models last year, since it was what I remembered from my youth. The P-38 was my 4th and final model of that brand which I never intend to purchase again. It had me seriously rethinking my decision to get back into the hobby. Thank God for Tamiya and have fun with that frustrating model. 

 

 

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Posted by jmoran426 on Thursday, May 09, 2019 8:32 AM
Yep, I did this kit when I was in high school, around 1967. I did the pathfinder version, which meant no guns. And this was pre-CA glue, so you could smell the tube of Testers plastic glue I used. I don't remember too much about the parts fitting issues, but I brush painted the model in silver, black, etc. My parents had kept a box of my models for several decades. When they offered for me to take them back, I opted for the trash bin. Speaks for itself.

jmoran426

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Posted by philo426 on Thursday, May 09, 2019 8:34 AM

Yes I expect problems but if I have added styrene shims to builds un the past .

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Posted by philo426 on Thursday, May 09, 2019 10:36 AM

Getting the booms together.   what gas stations are open 24 7

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, May 09, 2019 11:38 AM

Yikes! That really brings back some not so fond memories. That kit was engineered in a very strange way. This is interesting so far. I'll bet that it will get more interseting as time goes on. Don't forget to put weight in the nose to prevent a  tail sitter.

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Posted by philo426 on Thursday, May 09, 2019 12:59 PM

Yes that is on the agenda.dont like tail sitting on a plane with trike landing gear.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, May 09, 2019 1:04 PM

You will need a lot of weight in the nose. When I built my P-38 I filled the nose with weights. That was not enough. I also had to add weights inside the engine cowlings.

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Posted by philo426 on Thursday, May 09, 2019 2:00 PM

Yep that is the plan.Applied the putty.  

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Posted by philo426 on Thursday, May 09, 2019 2:00 PM

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Posted by fotofrank on Thursday, May 09, 2019 2:13 PM

Yeah, I've built a couple of these kits over the years. They can really cause you to yank your hair out. Sanded off a lot of rivet detail during the builds. Left the stick on the tail so the kit would sit right on the gear. Gonna be a tough build but press on regardless. It'll look nice when it's done.

OK. On the bench:

Way too much to build in one lifetime...

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Posted by philo426 on Thursday, May 09, 2019 2:54 PM

Already cut off the tail stand ,will add weight to the nose and engine nacelles.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, May 09, 2019 7:12 PM

What kind of putty is that? It looks like Bondo Glazing and Spot Putty.

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Posted by philo426 on Thursday, May 09, 2019 7:29 PM

Yes sir my fave!I like to immerse the tube into some warm water to allow the putty to smooth out a bit .

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