Strategic Air Command (SAC) Group Build II

Thanks guys. The Monogram kit I am looking at on Ebay is one from the Big, Bad, and Beautiful series and it doesn't look like it comes with any other decals than the SEA ones. But another one I am watching does have the SAC markings.

Bondoman, Thanks for the link. I have been thinking about getting the Hasegawa B-47E as well some time but heard it is a horrible kit. No detail and some fit issues. But I see that there is indeed a detail set for it which is much needed from my understanding. Might have to track one down.

Yardbird, Thanks for the info. I keep forgetting how old the Buff is. It caught me by surprise when you said B-52G and 1966 in the same sentence. Speaking of the Spain incident, wasn't there a B-47 that accidentally dropped a nuke in one of the Carolinas? No nuclear explosion but the HE did and destroyed somebody's back yard.

PhantomPhreak wrote:

I would love to join a CB Project like this as I have never joined one dedicated to aircraft. All the ones I have ever joined were automotive in nature. I do have several KC-135 kits as well as a couple of the AMT released 1/72nd scale B-52's, but I believe they were "H" or "G" Models and therefore not eligible for this build. I wouldn't mind trying to finish a 1/72nd KC-135A if that is acceptable to those in charge of this build. At leaste that kit I can spray with rattle cans and not have to rely on my airbrush.  Just let me know....

Absolutly, Brian! Welcome aboard!I've added you to the list, and the KC-135A Is definately eligible! Looking forward to the progress pictures once we start

yardbird78 wrote:

The Monogram (Revell) B-52D comes with a decal sheet that has options for the NMF and SEA camouflage versions.

From 1955 to 1967, SAC kept some B-52s on airborne alert called Chrome Dome and others on ground alert, both ready to head to bad guy country immediately upon notification.

 I suppose it was so named due to the routes over the polar ice cap that the bombers had to take to strike targets in the USSR

When I was at Andersen 1977-1979 they had 15 of the D's assigned to the 43 Strat Wing.  4 were kept on ready alert with weapons and mission targeting material in the aircraft with crews in the alert shack.  We kept the mission materials for the other 11 in the Intel vault ready to go on short notice.

DesertRat wrote:

Absolutly, Brian! Welcome aboard!I've added you to the list, and the KC-135A Is definately eligible! Looking forward to the progress pictures once we start

 Thanks Roger.  Now, my next question...how much detailing can we put into this project?  I worked many years on the Stratotanker on the flightline and have flight manuals, old TCTO's and other literature that graphically illustrate such things as hydraulic and fuel plumbing, electrical wire routing, etc.  I'm just curious how in-depth we can go. From what I can remember, the AMT -135 kit is sweet, but lacks alot of detailing in very visible areas that shouldn't be too hard to add with everday modeling supplies...

WarHammer25 wrote:

Speaking of the Spain incident, wasn't there a B-47 that accidentally dropped a nuke in one of the Carolinas? No nuclear explosion but the HE did and destroyed somebody's back yard.

 I have a book titled "The History of the US Nuclear Arsenal" by James Norris Gibson. (It's an awesome resource BTW).  In the section for each bomber, they list any accidents it may have had while carrying a nuclear payload.  They list the B-47 as having the highest number of accidents of any US bomber (but not all of them with a nuclear payload).

 On 11 March 1958,  A B-47 left Hunter AFB in Georgia, then accidently jettisoned its bomb casing at 15,000 feet over a sparsely populated section of Florence, South Carolina. On impact, the high explosives detonated, causing property damage and injury to several people. The nuclear fuel capsule was not installed.

 A BUFF also dropped a nuke on the Carolinas. On 24 January 1961, a B-52 had a major structural failure of its right wing over Goldsboro, North Carolina. The two nuclear devices broke loose, with one parachuting to the earth intact. The other broke up on impact on a farm. The  Airforce never recovered all the fragments of that bomb, even after excavating down to fifty feet.  Therefore, they bought an easement on the land, requiring government permission for any digging there. As for the crew of that aircraft, only five of the eight survived the accident.

The "America's Lost H bombs" documentary is currently making the rounds in the History/MilHist channels. Great footage.

I will actually join GB, I just love the subject. I will get the academy 1/144 B-58A Hustler kit, keep it simple, practice/learn how to make multiple-shade NMF, and make sure I finish the GB :)

PhantomPhreak wrote:

DesertRat wrote: Absolutly, Brian! Welcome aboard!I've added you to the list, and the KC-135A Is definately eligible! Looking forward to the progress pictures once we start  Thanks Roger.  Now, my next question...how much detailing can we put into this project?  I worked many years on the Stratotanker on the flightline and have flight manuals, old TCTO's and other literature that graphically illustrate such things as hydraulic and fuel plumbing, electrical wire routing, etc.  I'm just curious how in-depth we can go. From what I can remember, the AMT -135 kit is sweet, but lacks alot of detailing in very visible areas that shouldn't be too hard to add with everday modeling supplies...

As much or as little as you can do! Of course, more details makes for some really good pictures to post!

yardbird78 wrote:

The Monogram (Revell) B-52D comes with a decal sheet that has options for the NMF and SEA camouflage versions.  Micro Scale, Meteor Productions, Golden Dragon and Buff Masters all make aftermarket decals for the BUFF.  Most are the camo versions, but a few are for NMF.

Answer to my question: Burpleson AFB.

WarHammer25 wrote:

Don't be saying that now. My RB-36 should be arriving soon and I really don't want to mask off for the wingwalk stripes. I will see when it comes.

Hello Roger,

May I enter in this,

1/72 RB-36H from Mongram, I have started on it but havn't really gotten far with it.  I like your opening message.

FeldMarSchall Model wrote:

Hello Roger, May I enter in this, 1/72 RB-36H from Mongram, I have started on it but havn't really gotten far with it.  I like your opening message.

Looking good! I've already gotcha listed for her. She looks like she is gonna be an amazing build!

And thanks! I'll admit, I've had alotta good examples. ANd I gotta give you plenty of credit too. You are the one who came up with the original idea

DesertRat wrote:

I'd heard that before too! So much for the element of surprise, huh?

dmk wrote:

DesertRat wrote: I'd heard that before too! So much for the element of surprise, huh? Yea, but the B-36 was a high altitude bomber (it was from the time when SAMs weren't invented yet). You wouldn't hear it coming at 40 thousand feet.

See the posts in "What the heck is..."

Roger and WH I submit that everyone needs to rent "Strategic Air Command" by the end of the year. I would write a quiz if it moves you.

Also, my recommended reading: Magnesium Overcast.

I've settled on the F-82, please.

bondoman wrote:

Roger and WH I submit that everyone needs to rent "Strategic Air Command" by the end of the year. I would write a quiz if it moves you.

There is some place that does make it on DVD. Just Google Strategic Air Command DVD. This place has it but I think there are some others as well. http://stores.blowoutdvd1.com/-strse-122/Strategic-Air-Command-%281955%29_JAMES/Detail.bok

It really is a great movie and everyone should watch it. I haven't seen it in a while because AMC decided to quit showing it. Plus, Jimmy Stewart makes it better because he is a grat actor and would have been a colonel in the Air Force Reserves at the time of filming. 

I have heard that Magnesium Overcast is a great book on the B-36. I have the Warbird Tech series book on the B-36 which is also be Dennis Jenkins. It is also a good book, but are they the same?

WarHammer25 wrote:

There is some place that does make it on DVD. Just Google Strategic Air Command DVD. This place has it but I think there are some others as well.

I was looking at some of those, but some of the sites with reviews indicate these may be copies and some are pretty poor quality apparently. I'm thinking these are VHS transferred to DVD.

WarHammer25 wrote:

I have heard that Magnesium Overcast is a great book on the B-36. I have the Warbird Tech series book on the B-36 which is also be Dennis Jenkins. It is also a good book, but are they the same?

No, they are NOT the same book.  The Warbird Tech B-36 is a good book, Magnesium Overcast is a GREAT book with lots of photos.  There is a book called B-36 Photo Scrapbook by Dennis Jenkins that is a compilation of photos that were not used in Magnesium Overcast.  It is also great.

Darwin, O.F. 

Thanks Yardbird. I will have to pick that up. Especially since I am building a B-36.

I got my RB-36H today. Really haven't looked close at it so I don't know if it comes with walking strips or not but I doubt it.

dmk wrote:

WarHammer25 wrote: There is some place that does make it on DVD. Just Google Strategic Air Command DVD. This place has it but I think there are some others as well. I was looking at some of those, but some of the sites with reviews indicate these may be copies and some are pretty poor quality apparently. I'm thinking these are VHS transferred to DVD.

I think so too! I've looked for it on DVD, but so far, it's no luck here. I have run across that movie on tv in times past-I'm just wierd in that with a movie I haven't seen yet, I won't sit and watch when I start from the middle. I have to see it from the beginning! Time to go trolling through Ebay, it seems!

I've not ever participated in a group build, but I think its a great idea. If I may, count me in... I'm thinking a B-47 Stratojet, and/or RC-135E 'Rivet Amber' "Lisa Ann". Man, these group builds could crowd the workbench!

Thanx!

wynder wrote:

I've not ever participated in a group build, but I think its a great idea. If I may, count me in... I'm thinking a B-47 Stratojet, and/or EC-135E 'Rivet Amber' "Lisa Ann". Man, these group builds could crowd the workbench! Thanx!

Hiya Wynder, and to the Group Build! Glad to have ya aboard! I've added you to the list. We have a couple of months before we actually begin. But I'm looking forward to see the progress in your build!

I just came back from the bookstore and I got lucky. They had Magnesium Overcast! I must say that it is the best book on the B-36. A must have for anybody building a Peacemaker.

I checked out my RB-36H kit and you can build both a B-36H and a RB-36H. It does not come with walking-strip decals but has them outlined with raised panel lines. Looks like a cool kit and it is HUGE!